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August 15, 2005 Print Issue In January 2005, a judge ordered IBM to turn over 2 billion lines of code to SCO Group so that the small, Lindon, Utah-based company could examine it for evidence that IBM had included copyrighted Unix code in Linux. At that moment, the open-source movement suddenly lost a bit of its swagger. The billion-dollar lawsuit threatened to dampen open source’s mounting momentum by scaring off potential customers, software developers, and investors. It also raised the specter of miring IBM—Linux’ rich and powerful benefactor—in a distracting legal battle. The lawsuit was a peculiar situation. The open-source movement—the free and open antithesis to Microsoft’s world-dominating, closed operating system—was rooting hard for a victory by a company that bears one of the world’s largest patent portfolios. More than 100,000 developers call IBM their primary partner. It is probably the largest and most diverse partner channel ever assembled by a high-tech company. Both Microsoft and Novell have built extensive reseller channels, but neither has been able to attract the many multibillion-dollar companies, such as Lockheed Martin and SAP, that top IBM’s partner list. While the relationship between IBM and its open-source partners is not without its rough patches, in many cases it’s a bond that has been forged over many years. ‘We don’t ask our partners to stop doing Windows and do Linux. We say, “Keep doing Windows or Unix or whatever you are doing. Do Linux for incremental revenue.”’ – Scott Handy, IBM - ADVERTISEMENT - \n'); } if ( plugin ) { document.write(''); document.write(' '); document.write(' ');document.write(' '); document.write(' '); } else if (!(navigator.appName && navigator.appName.indexOf("Netscape")>=0 && navigator.appVersion.indexOf("2.")>=0)) {document.write(''); } //--> Consider AbSoft, a company based in Rochester Hills, Michigan, that has compiled and debugged application software for 25 years. For the past five years, it has worked on Linux software. Others are more recent partners that have signed up with IBM because the brand lends it the credibility they need to sell Linux into the corporate world. It’s safe to say that without IBM, Linux would not be where it is today. SCO’s lawsuit notwithstanding, dispatches from the open-source movement paint a pretty rosy picture. In the first quarter of 2005, Linux server sales grew 35 percent, according to a report from IDC. That pace is three times faster than Windows’ growth. The report also says that Linux server shipments are expected to increase more than 20 percent over the next five years, compared to only 10 percent for Windows. Linux still only holds a tiny sliver of Windows’ market share, but it is growing. According to Gartner, 45 percent of midsize businesses are already building some applications with Linux. That’s up from virtually nothing a couple of years ago. IBM is responsible for at least some of that growth. “IBM has basically backstopped Linux. It allows the corporate customer to even consider Linux,” says Dan Olds, a principal analyst with the Gabriel Consulting Group. “Knowing that IBM is standing behind Linux with the full weight of the company is something that can really help IT executives sleep at night.” Big Blue pays a lot for those restful nights. The company spends about $1 billion a year on channel programs and incentives, and its largest partners absorb much of the expense. In return, many of those partners—such as Lockheed Martin, SAP, SAIC, and Unisys Services—move millions of dollars worth of products. At the other end of the spectrum, many of IBM’s partners sell very few products. They are small companies with special skills or a single set of products. They take advantage of IBM’s many incentive and training programs, and port their applications to IBM’s myriad platforms and processors. In return, they give IBM access to the small- and medium-sized business (SMB) customer—a market the company needs. “Big companies are good at fulfilling a purchase order for 500 computers, but if that same company would issue 500 purchase orders for 500 different users, they would have problems with that,” says AbSoft CEO Wood Lotz. “We can cut across all of the internal politics pretty quickly. We sell into situations where IBM is not comfortable selling.” IBM has a number of programs that address channel partners that sell into the SMB market. The SMB Advantage program, for instance, affords partners sales and marketing support. As with most of its programs, IBM adds specific Linux incentives, offering mostly free training, support, and—most importantly—customer leads. “We don’t ask our partners to stop doing Windows and do Linux. We say, ‘Keep doing Windows or Unix or whatever you are doing. Do Linux for incremental revenue,’” says Scott Handy, IBM’s vice president of worldwide Linux. “They are reaching customers that they would not have reached without the Linux solution.” IBM posts its partners’ applications to a directory called the Global Solutions Directory, which currently houses about 6,000 applications for Linux. IBM’s customers can then find Linux applications it needs in the directory. One of the customers that has taken advantage of IBM’s incremental Linux business is Journyx, an Austin, Texas-based company that markets a web-based timesheet solution that automates billing, payroll, and project management. Journyx has built a small but successful business either selling its application to customers of all sizes, or hosting customers at its application service provider site in Austin. The nine-year-old company expects to make a little more than $6 million in revenue this year. Its six-year history with IBM reflects Big Blue’s changing attitude toward its smaller partners. “IBM has not done a great job in the past of bringing us into their existing customer accounts, but I can see that they’re starting to… go more in the direction of opening things up,” says Journyx CEO Curt Finch. “IBM’s partner program is moving in the direction of encouraging people who support their platforms, not just encouraging people who are big resellers of IBM’s software.” By offering both training for partners who add Linux to their roster of skills, as well as putting its weight behind the technology, IBM is assisting its smaller customers in establishing control of their accounts “Linux training is great for a reseller or software partner. It allows them to go in and talk to their customers about Linux, which is something they are hearing a lot about,” says Mr. Olds. “If they can go in and intelligently discuss the pros and cons with the customers, it promotes them to the status of trusted advisor. If they can go in and say, ‘We have received this Linux training and we are being supported by IBM,’ that’s pretty powerful.” Open-Source News It’s not just IBM that is giving Linux a boost and adding power to the open-source movement. Many governments in Asia, South America, and even Microsoft strongholds in Europe are embracing Linux. The technology may have established its first major beachhead in Brazil, where the government has fully endorsed open source and sent Microsoft clear signals that it need not apply for business. Earlier this year, the Brazilian government launched a populist campaign called PC Conectado, or Connected PC, which is designed to drive PC ownership deeper into Brazilian society. If the government has its way, PC Conectado will bring PCs based exclusively on open-source technology to low-income Brazilians. In an effort to stay in the game, Microsoft has promised significant price cuts on its products, but the government seems unimpressed. The government hopes to offer PCs in the program for about $509, about half the going price of PCs in Brazil. Microsoft declined to comment for this article. The program is part of a larger transition to open source that has been inspired by President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, who has instructed all government ministries, agencies, and state-run companies to begin the switch to open-source systems like Linux. President da Silva has also mandated that companies, or research institutes receiving government funding, develop in an open-source environment and offer their code for free usage. This is good news for IBM. “Microsoft is in deep trouble in countries like China and Brazil,” says Mark Hanny, IBM’s vice president of independent software vendors (ISVs) and developer relations. “In Brazil, all of the top ISVs have rebuilt their applications from the client/server base. They are now built on Linux.” Linux’s Red Carpet While the Chinese government continues to impose tight restrictions on most foreign software and the companies that create it, Chinahas embraced open source in a big way. After a relatively slow start in Linux, the government has now created the China Standard Software Company and the China Open Source Software Promotion Alliance. The former is a collection of state companies licensing Linux-based software products and initiatives; the latter works with Western vendors such as IBM on development projects. But the world’s most populous country keeps tight control of its software market. It has imposed regulations—designed to protect Chinese firms by giving them preferential treatment in government procurements—that make it difficult for foreign software vendors to do business in the country. The proposals categorize software vendors as domestic, non-domestic, or preferred non-domestic. Under the draft proposal, government purchases of non-domestic software would require special approval. Vendors hoping to win preferred non-domestic status would have to demonstrate annually that their investment and operations in Chinaremain above a certain level. For instance, companies meeting the preferred standard must show that at least 50 percent of their development costs are spent in China, and must invest an unstated proportion of their Chinese revenues in China to train local software staff and transfer core software technology into the country. “Those rules are a direct slap at Microsoft, because the one exception the government had was anything based on open standards,” says Mr. Hanny. “The Chinese had very serious concerns about security flaws, and Microsoft failed that test.” Last year, Beijingannounced a phase-out of Microsoft Windows and Office products in government offices, to be complete in 2010. Other Asian countries, including South Korea and Japan, have introduced similar programs or announced open-source initiatives. Convincing Large Customers Open source may have found a home in developing countries, but it has had a difficult time gaining acceptance among large corporations. To help combat the corporate aversion, IBM recently launched a testing, marketing, and sales support program designed to assist open-source ISVs in building enterprise-ready applications that can meet the rigorous demands of large customers. The program, called Chiphopper, allows open-source ISVs to port to multiple platforms more efficiently, and perhaps more importantly, helps them generate leads and close tough deals by using IBM’s reputation and resources as a calling card. “Chiphopper creates a framework where IBM’s Linux developers who have existing x86 Linux applications can run them through Chiphopper, and they can be ported to work on any of IBM’s server platforms,” says Charles King, a principal analyst with PundIT Research. The company continues to roll out programs loaded with incentives for ISVs to develop applications that incorporate Linux and run on IBM’s hardware. “It’s that kind of classic bridge-building model, and IBM has the size and the financial wherewithal to go in there and make the investments knowing that if they put $1 million into it today, they have a good chance of making $10 million down the road,” says Mr. King. “IBM gets criticized by its competitors because they are a large company and they act the way large companies do. 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Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Software Freedom Day 2005 2005-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Software Freedom Day 2005 2005-08-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New worms hit U.S. media outlets, companies 2005-08-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell to open Linux R&D center in Beijing by year end 2005-08-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Enterprise Firewall for free!! 2005-08-18 From: "Adrian Pilgrim" <adrianp-at-dufryamerica.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell to open Linux R&D center in Beijing by year end 2005-08-18 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Board Meeting on Thursday 2005-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Novell to open Linux R&D center in Beijing 2005-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: SuitWatch - August 18]Note on Web Casting below 2005-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com Job Matches] 2005-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Jobs 2005-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM in the news 2005-08-19 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Repair labtop cd 2005-08-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Repair labtop cd 2005-08-19 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Repair labtop cd 2005-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SuSE 8.2 is gone 2005-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Repair labtop cd 2005-08-19 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Repair labtop cd 2005-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [CFSG-forum] Seward Park HS] 2005-08-19 Paul Robert Marino <pmarino-at-wagweb.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [CFSG-forum] Seward Park HS] 2005-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [CFSG-forum] Seward Park HS] 2005-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [501techclub-ny] New Computer Network Security Course for IT 2005-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA GPL] 2005-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Good News from the Middle East 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Message to Texas .... and this is how it happens 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Book on DRM reviewed in the NY Times 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More Brooklyn Texas Connections - This time Pre-historic 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Digital NY History 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] For those who haven't figured out Brooklyn yet 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] WTC - Real Time 2005-08-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Good News from the Middle East 2005-08-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Message to Texas .... and this is how it happens 2005-08-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Message to Texas .... and this is how it happens 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: JobCircle Weekly Summary of New Jobs] 2005-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Important Meeting for the Chamber of Commerce 2005-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Book Publishing in the 21st Century 2005-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Business Loans 2005-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More Jobs 2005-08-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Microsoft Woos OSDL for New Linux Offensive 2005-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Software Freedom Day 2005 2005-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Software Freedom Day 2005 2005-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I wonder 2005-08-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions 2005-08-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The unending development of human civilization 2005-08-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [501techclub-ny] Seeking a Subcontractor] 2005-08-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The unending development of human civilization 2005-08-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions 2005-08-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] W3C objects to U.S. Copyright Office's browser plan 2005-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [501techclub-ny] Job Announcement Revision: Geekcorps Mali 2005-08-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Open-source Mambo project faces rift 2005-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Comic Book Poison from Denver 2005-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software in Healthcare is getting playtime form Med Econoics 2005-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imagine if it was a 110 story sky scraper 2005-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: JobCircle Weekly Summary of New Jobs] 2005-08-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Software Freedom Day 2005 Meeting! 2005-08-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Steve Jobs and the RIAAA 2005-08-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Software Freedom Day 2005 Meeting - Wed Aug 31, 2005 2005-08-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Digital Hope 2005-08-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why the Patant Office needs new employees 2005-08-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft King Kong Style 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] You have a friend in China 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Weiner Biography: This is not a endorsement 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Nylug Meeting tonight 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Invitation-IBM IT Lifecycle Management Competitive Briefings 2005-08-30 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Weiner Biography: This is not a endorsement 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Weiner Biography: This is not a endorsement 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Question for NYLXS board members] 2005-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA 2005-08-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Software Freedom Day 2005 Meeting - Wed Aug 31, 2005-08-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Software Freedom Day 2005 Meeting - Wed Aug 2005-08-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The end of a city as we know it... 2005-08-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] In case you didn't notice...this is bad NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! 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