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Trunk is the safe bet.

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On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:11=E2=80=AFPM Mithun Bhattacharya om>
wrote:

> So is there a cleaner/saner version of libapreq2 or is the 2012 version
> better ?
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024, 12:58=E2=80=AFPM Joe Schaefer =
wrote:
>
>> For the past 25 years, I have been the lead developer of the libapreq2
>> subproject within the Apache HTTPd Server Parent Project. The original i=
dea
>> of libapreq as a safe/performant HTML form and Cookie parsing library ca=
me
>> out of a collaboration between Lincoln Stein and Doug MacEachern in the
>> late 90s.
>>
>> It was my vision back then to transform the library into a generic,
>> non-Perl related C library that would support language bindings from oth=
er
>> programming languages, which is why I pushed for the project to be homes
>> under the HTTPd umbrella instead of the Apache-Perl project.
>>
>> While this vision was wildly successful, with language bindings availabl=
e
>> for several languages like Perl, TCL, R, etc, ever since about 2010 its
>> proven tragic for the existing user community consisting of all of them,
>> not just Perl.
>>
>> What happened? Philip Gollucci, a Perl/FreeBSD olleague of mine at the
>> time, started agitating that we promote the project to be released from
>> inside the HTTPd server itself. What Philip didn=E2=80=99t know very wel=
l back then
>> was how utterly vapid and territorial that team had become, which would
>> have meant having to collaborate with them directly on user-facing
>> decisions about the code base.
>>
>> In 2012, Philip got what he wanted and I stopped resisting, so he forked
>> the existing project and copied the C library components into HTTPd core=
.
>>
>> In 2016 I resigned from the Foundation en masse. You can guess the
>> reasons.
>>
>> In 2020 or so, Google=E2=80=99s Security Team took advantage of an alpha=
release
>> of httpd 2.5 by fuzzing its 8 year old copy of apreq. It found a few
>> hotspots that needed repair.
>>
>> Instead of having the courtesy of reaching out to me, or anyone else
>> involved in development of apreq, a junior engineer on the HTTPd team we=
nt
>> about the business of =E2=80=9Cbug fixing=E2=80=9D the vulnerabilities G=
oogle found. You
>> can see a record of his trial and error work in every release since then=
.
>>
>> But the coup de grace was the 2022 release of 2.17, wherein the rookie
>> developer purposely introduced a fatal bug into the codebase, breaking a
>> fifteen year old regression test.
>>
>> If you are wondering how something with a broken regression test winds u=
p
>> on CPAN, you=E2=80=99ll have to look into how RELENG is done in the serv=
er project.
>>
>> Long story short, they commented out the test and shipped it anyway, and
>> called it a Security Release that fixed a vulnerability every prior rele=
ase
>> was susceptible to.
>>
>> Why do I care now? Because I=E2=80=99m the sucker users reach out to for=
answers
>> as a known subject matter expert.
>>
>> This sucks, but I=E2=80=99m sorry to tell you that my days wearing the S=
uperman
>> cape at Apache ended 8 years ago.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Schaefer, Ph.D.
>>
>> Orion - The Enterprise Jamstack Wiki
>>
>>
>> 954.253.3732
>>
>>
>>

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ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
So is there a cleaner/saner version of libapreq2 =
or is the 2012 version better ?

r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 18, 2024, 12:58=E2=80=AFPM Joe S=
chaefer <joe-at-sun=
starsys.com> wrote:
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=3D"ltr">ans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">For the pa=
st 25 years, I have been the lead developer of the libapreq2 subproject wit=
hin the Apache HTTPd Server Parent Project. The original idea of libapreq a=
s a safe/performant HTML form and Cookie parsing library came out of a coll=
aboration between Lincoln Stein and Doug MacEachern in the late 90s.=

nt-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">It was my vision back =
then to transform the library into a generic, non-Perl related C library th=
at would support language bindings from other programming languages, which =
is why I pushed for the project to be homes under the HTTPd umbrella instea=
d of the Apache-Perl project.

mily:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246=
,246,239)">While this vision was wildly successful, with language bindings =
available for several languages like Perl, TCL, R, etc, ever since about 20=
10 its proven tragic for the existing user community consisting of all of t=
hem, not just Perl.

na,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)"=
>What happened? Philip Gollucci, a Perl/FreeBSD olleague of mine at the tim=
e, started agitating that we promote the project to be released from inside=
the HTTPd server itself. What Philip didn=E2=80=99t know very well back th=
en was how utterly vapid and territorial that team had become, which would =
have meant having to collaborate with them directly on user-facing decision=
s about the code base.

rdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,23=
9)">In 2012, Philip got what he wanted and I stopped resisting, so he forke=
d the existing project and copied the C library components into HTTPd core.=

f;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">In 2016 I resigned=
from the Foundation en masse. You can guess the reasons.

lor:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.333=
3px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">In 2020 or so, Google=E2=80=99s Secu=
rity Team took advantage of an alpha release of httpd 2.5 by fuzzing its 8 =
year old copy of apreq. It found a few hotspots that needed repair.

tyle=3D"color:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">Instead of having the cour=
tesy of reaching out to me, or anyone else involved in development of apreq=
, a junior engineer on the HTTPd team went about the business of =E2=80=9Cb=
ug fixing=E2=80=9D the vulnerabilities Google found. You can see a record o=
f his trial and error work in every release since then.

r:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333p=
x;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">But the coup de grace was the 2022 rel=
ease of 2.17, wherein the rookie developer purposely introduced a fatal bug=
into the codebase, breaking a fifteen year old regression test.

e=3D"color:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size=
:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">If you are wondering how some=
thing with a broken regression test winds up on CPAN, you=E2=80=99ll have t=
o look into how RELENG is done in the server project.

rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;=
background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">Long story short, they commented out the=
test and shipped it anyway, and called it a Security Release that fixed a =
vulnerability every prior release was susceptible to.

rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;=
background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">Why do I care now? Because I=E2=80=99m t=
he sucker users reach out to for answers as a known subject matter expert.<=
/p>

;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">This sucks, but I=
=E2=80=99m sorry to tell you that my days wearing the Superman cape at Apac=
he ended 8 years ago.


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954.253.3732




On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:11=E2=80=AFPM Mithun Bhattacharya om>
wrote:

> So is there a cleaner/saner version of libapreq2 or is the 2012 version
> better ?
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024, 12:58=E2=80=AFPM Joe Schaefer =
wrote:
>
>> For the past 25 years, I have been the lead developer of the libapreq2
>> subproject within the Apache HTTPd Server Parent Project. The original i=
dea
>> of libapreq as a safe/performant HTML form and Cookie parsing library ca=
me
>> out of a collaboration between Lincoln Stein and Doug MacEachern in the
>> late 90s.
>>
>> It was my vision back then to transform the library into a generic,
>> non-Perl related C library that would support language bindings from oth=
er
>> programming languages, which is why I pushed for the project to be homes
>> under the HTTPd umbrella instead of the Apache-Perl project.
>>
>> While this vision was wildly successful, with language bindings availabl=
e
>> for several languages like Perl, TCL, R, etc, ever since about 2010 its
>> proven tragic for the existing user community consisting of all of them,
>> not just Perl.
>>
>> What happened? Philip Gollucci, a Perl/FreeBSD olleague of mine at the
>> time, started agitating that we promote the project to be released from
>> inside the HTTPd server itself. What Philip didn=E2=80=99t know very wel=
l back then
>> was how utterly vapid and territorial that team had become, which would
>> have meant having to collaborate with them directly on user-facing
>> decisions about the code base.
>>
>> In 2012, Philip got what he wanted and I stopped resisting, so he forked
>> the existing project and copied the C library components into HTTPd core=
.
>>
>> In 2016 I resigned from the Foundation en masse. You can guess the
>> reasons.
>>
>> In 2020 or so, Google=E2=80=99s Security Team took advantage of an alpha=
release
>> of httpd 2.5 by fuzzing its 8 year old copy of apreq. It found a few
>> hotspots that needed repair.
>>
>> Instead of having the courtesy of reaching out to me, or anyone else
>> involved in development of apreq, a junior engineer on the HTTPd team we=
nt
>> about the business of =E2=80=9Cbug fixing=E2=80=9D the vulnerabilities G=
oogle found. You
>> can see a record of his trial and error work in every release since then=
.
>>
>> But the coup de grace was the 2022 release of 2.17, wherein the rookie
>> developer purposely introduced a fatal bug into the codebase, breaking a
>> fifteen year old regression test.
>>
>> If you are wondering how something with a broken regression test winds u=
p
>> on CPAN, you=E2=80=99ll have to look into how RELENG is done in the serv=
er project.
>>
>> Long story short, they commented out the test and shipped it anyway, and
>> called it a Security Release that fixed a vulnerability every prior rele=
ase
>> was susceptible to.
>>
>> Why do I care now? Because I=E2=80=99m the sucker users reach out to for=
answers
>> as a known subject matter expert.
>>
>> This sucks, but I=E2=80=99m sorry to tell you that my days wearing the S=
uperman
>> cape at Apache ended 8 years ago.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Schaefer, Ph.D.
>>
>> Orion - The Enterprise Jamstack Wiki
>>
>>
>> 954.253.3732
>>
>>
>>

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, 2024 at 2:11=E2=80=AFPM Mithun Bhattacharya <gmail.com">mithnb-at-gmail.com> wrote:
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
So is there a cleaner/saner version of libapreq2 =
or is the 2012 version better ?

r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 18, 2024, 12:58=E2=80=AFPM Joe S=
chaefer <joe-at-sun=
starsys.com> wrote:
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=3D"ltr">ans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">For the pa=
st 25 years, I have been the lead developer of the libapreq2 subproject wit=
hin the Apache HTTPd Server Parent Project. The original idea of libapreq a=
s a safe/performant HTML form and Cookie parsing library came out of a coll=
aboration between Lincoln Stein and Doug MacEachern in the late 90s.=

nt-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">It was my vision back =
then to transform the library into a generic, non-Perl related C library th=
at would support language bindings from other programming languages, which =
is why I pushed for the project to be homes under the HTTPd umbrella instea=
d of the Apache-Perl project.

mily:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246=
,246,239)">While this vision was wildly successful, with language bindings =
available for several languages like Perl, TCL, R, etc, ever since about 20=
10 its proven tragic for the existing user community consisting of all of t=
hem, not just Perl.

na,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)"=
>What happened? Philip Gollucci, a Perl/FreeBSD olleague of mine at the tim=
e, started agitating that we promote the project to be released from inside=
the HTTPd server itself. What Philip didn=E2=80=99t know very well back th=
en was how utterly vapid and territorial that team had become, which would =
have meant having to collaborate with them directly on user-facing decision=
s about the code base.

rdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,23=
9)">In 2012, Philip got what he wanted and I stopped resisting, so he forke=
d the existing project and copied the C library components into HTTPd core.=

f;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">In 2016 I resigned=
from the Foundation en masse. You can guess the reasons.

lor:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.333=
3px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">In 2020 or so, Google=E2=80=99s Secu=
rity Team took advantage of an alpha release of httpd 2.5 by fuzzing its 8 =
year old copy of apreq. It found a few hotspots that needed repair.

tyle=3D"color:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">Instead of having the cour=
tesy of reaching out to me, or anyone else involved in development of apreq=
, a junior engineer on the HTTPd team went about the business of =E2=80=9Cb=
ug fixing=E2=80=9D the vulnerabilities Google found. You can see a record o=
f his trial and error work in every release since then.

r:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333p=
x;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">But the coup de grace was the 2022 rel=
ease of 2.17, wherein the rookie developer purposely introduced a fatal bug=
into the codebase, breaking a fifteen year old regression test.

e=3D"color:rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size=
:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">If you are wondering how some=
thing with a broken regression test winds up on CPAN, you=E2=80=99ll have t=
o look into how RELENG is done in the server project.

rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;=
background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">Long story short, they commented out the=
test and shipped it anyway, and called it a Security Release that fixed a =
vulnerability every prior release was susceptible to.

rgb(130,130,130);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;=
background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">Why do I care now? Because I=E2=80=99m t=
he sucker users reach out to for answers as a known subject matter expert.<=
/p>

;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:rgb(246,246,239)">This sucks, but I=
=E2=80=99m sorry to tell you that my days wearing the Superman cape at Apac=
he ended 8 years ago.


ix">--
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Joe Schaefer, Ph.D.
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