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MESSAGE
DATE 2002-06-10
FROM Michael Richardson
SUBJECT RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu

I was not aware that the G phrase was one of your buttons. Would you
consider writing a list of questions that a "Code Enhancement Group" would
be looking at? It could be posted as a questionnaire in this issue of the
Journal.
I have not written code. Nor have I used the GIMP or PhotoShop. And yes I
still use windows for a couple of programs, I will use propriety programs
for myself. When I do the Journal I will use free software.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan W. McAdams [mailto:rit-at-jacked-in.org]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:22 AM
To: Michael Richardson
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu


[It seems my 'unsubscribe' hasn't yet gone through, and since someone is
actually willing to have a conversation about this, I don't see why we
should cut the thread off before it begins.]

Please excuse me while I refuse to call it GNU/Linux. =) It seems
someone found the button to push to set me off

A voice of reason is, of course, an important thing. However, I fear to
hear my voice becoming anything but reasonable in conversations I have
on this list as frustration mounts due to people just not taking a hint.

I'm not sure if I quite got my point across with the growing up issue.

I agree, we have to move forward. The problem I see however is people
doing things like insisting it's done, ship it, no more work. Or
insisting, for example, The GIMP is just as good as Photoshop. It
simply isn't true. Usability, functionality, features etc. Yes, Perl
scripting is wonderful but how often do you automate graphics work with
an external program rather than doing it by hand? I won't go into a
long list of comparative rants as I think I've done so in the past.

What NYLXS needs, because I don't think any other group has it, is the
ability as a group to analyze where shortcomings are, and FIX THEM.

I hereby propose the formation of a Steering Committee to solicit a
feasibility study on the creation of a "Code Enhancement Group".

The way I see it, what is needed is someone out there looking at the
free, open source Unix based products and seeing what is missing. At
bringing products that we use on windows over to *nix (As shitty a
product as MS Project is, I still need it for work, as do a lot of
people. And I have yet to find a program even close to Visio - it seems
like development on Dia has stopped). At increasing the usability and
friendliness of the system for the average user. At enhancing the
overall system that we call Linux. Ximian is doing a great job of this
- Evolution is a phenomenal product - it is the BIG reason I was able to
do dump Windows at work. But why does it take commercial entities to
provide these things we need? I support Ximian with my time (beta
testing) and my dollars because they are giving back to me the
applications I need - things that make my life worth living (when you
code as much as I do, you don't have much to live for ). Can NYLXS
or any other group out there offer me the same thing?

I'm willing to be a voice of reason, to some level, if people are
willing to listen to reason. I can be just as strong willed as everyone
else here but I think I have a good idea of when to back down on an
issue.

Should anyone else be willing to consider these things in a reasonable
manner as Michael apparently has, I would be willing to discuss it.



On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 10:12, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Brendan, while you maybe beating your head against the wall, NYLXS needs a
> voice of reason. NYLXS can not learn or grow if everyone thinks alike.
Yes
> it is hard and tiring to fight up hill but don't quit NYLXS needs you more
> than you need NYLXS.
>
> As I understand it NYLXS is not here to write code. However as long as
> those who write code for GNU/Linux insist that it is not ready for the
> desktop no one will believe it to be. Was Microsoft ready for the desktop
> when it launched? GNU/Linux needs to go with what it has on the desktop
and
> then improve it as it goes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendan W. McAdams [mailto:rit-at-jacked-in.org]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:58 AM
> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
>
>
>
> Due to enormous volume of useless text, and a constant desire to avoid
> pontification as much as possible, I am unsubscribing myself from the
> list. I can only hope this group, unlike every other LUG, will learn to
> temper their views with common sense and acceptance of the views of
> others. I have yet to see this from NYLXS and I'm not really holding
> out hope anymore.
>
> While Ruben is a great man, and has a lot to offer the world, he, like
> many of you and many others out there (and myself in many regards),
> refuses to stand down from his views even when proven wrong. This takes
> a lot of personal strength but it does not necessarily indicate a strong
> individual. It simply indicates an unyielding mind so hellbent on his
> own righteousness that he doesn't realise the effect (or lack thereof)
> that he is having on the world around him.
>
> Politics, infighting and mudslinging only serve to make it easier for
> Windows to continue. Linux is still a relatively unusable product on
> the desktop. Yet, rather than accept this fact and work to further it,
> groups like this try to force Linux down the users throat. Groups like
> NYLXS should be putting together Usability Research groups, and putting
> together proposals showing shortcomings. These reports should be going
> to groups within or without of the organization that actually work on
> the apps in question and make them better. Simply wishing for a
> replacement to Windows on the desk isn't going to do the job. Linux has
> come a long way in the last few years but I have met very few people who
> are willing to go that extra mile to get it there. I've offered on so
> many occasions to help in this respect, and get told by people "Our
> application is perfect!" or something along those lines that is not only
> inane but self centered and blind.
>
> Should NYLXS turn around and being writing code, etc to help meet it's
> goals, I would be happy to participate in such groups. A Steering
> Committee for said projects would be an excellent beginning.
>
> Until this time, however, I will take my leave.
>
> I fully expect that as my views don't match those of NYLXS that I'll be
> ripped apart, cursed at, spit upon and insulted for the next few days as
> you analyze my message in painstakingly incorrect detail; again,
> apparently the norm around here. Have fun.
>
> It has, as always, been a pleasure.
>
> If any of you need me, you know how to contact me =)
>
> Regards,
>
> Brendan
> -----
> Brendan W. McAdams
> Mobile: (973)517-9919
>
> "Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done, and why.
> Then do it."
> - Robert A. Heinlein
>
> "I cannot make my days longer, so I strive to make them better."
> - Henry David Thoreau
>
>
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> Fair Use -
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  102. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  103. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] craigslist postings
  104. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] craigslist postings
  105. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] village voice
  106. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] village voice
  107. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] village voice
  108. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] village voice
  109. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Changing a Label Presentation
  110. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  111. 2002-06-10 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Symantec Website
  112. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  113. 2002-06-11 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  114. 2002-06-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  115. 2002-06-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  116. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  117. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  118. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  119. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  120. 2002-06-11 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal
  121. 2002-06-11 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal
  122. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  123. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  124. 2002-06-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  125. 2002-06-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  126. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  127. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  128. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  129. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  130. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  131. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  132. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  133. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  134. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  135. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  136. 2002-06-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  137. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tuesday 11 June 2002 WWWAC Open Source SIG: Clay Gordon on Heck.com
  138. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tuesday 11 June 2002 WWWAC Open Source SIG: Clay Gordon on Heck.com
  139. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  140. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  141. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [vipertek-at-megalink.net: usergroup]For the Membership Committee
  142. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  143. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  144. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Summer class schedule
  145. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Summer class schedule
  146. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  147. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  148. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Making Virtual Meetings with Free Software
  149. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] classes and such
  150. 2002-06-11 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 12 June 2002 NYSA: David Stenglein on Clustering, Past, Present, and Future
  151. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Making Virtual Meetings with Free Software
  152. 2002-06-10 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Washington Post
  153. 2002-06-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  154. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article 2 - GTK Programming
  155. 2002-06-12 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 12 June 2002 Mozilla Release Party
  156. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Issues regarding Linux closed source drivers (fwd) [jays-at-panix.com]
  157. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article 1 - Political Action Report
  158. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source:
  159. 2002-06-12 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  160. 2002-06-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Greenpeace cans Windows
  161. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] JOB: "Sysop" [claygordon-at-mindspring.com]
  162. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  163. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  164. 2002-06-13 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] MITRE Study on Open Source in Government
  165. 2002-06-12 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  166. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  167. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  168. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  169. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  170. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  171. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  172. 2002-06-14 Mark Halegua <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [hangout] Know your rights - all three of them
  173. 2002-06-14 Mark Halegua <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [hangout] Know your rights - all three of them
  174. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I updated the radio page on the server
  175. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I updated the radio page on the server
  176. 2002-06-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] adieu (for the summer)
  177. 2002-06-13 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] adieu (for the summer)
  178. 2002-06-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job announcement: Systems administrator (human rights and open source/free software) [colleenw-at-bway.net]
  179. 2002-06-13 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  180. 2002-06-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Know your rights - all three of them
  181. 2002-06-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Command Sarget Major of Scheduling - Include the dinner
  182. 2002-06-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] resource list
  183. 2002-06-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] resource list
  184. 2002-06-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] resource list
  185. 2002-06-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! Re: [wwwac] more about dreamweaver mx
  186. 2002-06-14 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] menace
  187. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwac web-based forum
  188. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwac web-based forum
  189. 2002-06-14 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Civili Liberties and spying
  190. 2002-06-14 From: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBSaWNoYXJkc29u?= <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] =?utf-8?B?UkU6IFtoYW5nb3V0XSBBcmUgd2UgdXAgdG8gIk9kZCBKb2IiIHN0?= =?utf-8?B?YW5kYXJkcz8=?=
  191. 2002-06-14 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Are we up to "Odd Job" standards?
  192. 2002-06-15 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-voyager.bxscience.edu> GNU/Linux within the New York City School System | Was: Re: [hangout] cablevision
  193. 2002-06-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] cablevision
  194. 2002-06-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] I updated the craigslist postings
  195. 2002-06-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] I updated the craigslist postings
  196. 2002-06-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  197. 2002-06-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  198. 2002-06-16 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee members
  199. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Education Center - Tonights Broadcast
  200. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Education Center - Tonights Broadcast
  201. 2002-06-16 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Deadline
  202. 2002-06-16 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Tuesday 18 June 2002 IPCNYCLA: Copyright and the Museum of Comic and Cartoon Art
  203. 2002-06-16 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Subject: [hangout] Real Pulled plug on Linux
  204. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwacs: unnerviing new virus trick with OE preview pane/Word [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  205. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwacs: unnerviing new virus trick with OE preview pane/Word [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  206. 2002-06-16 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Command Sarget Major of Scheduling - Include the dinner
  207. 2002-06-16 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Command Sarget Major of Scheduling - Include the dinner
  208. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Longterm NYLXS calendar
  209. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS at CUNY
  210. 2002-06-16 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  211. 2002-06-16 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  212. 2002-06-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] last night's show
  213. 2002-06-17 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonights meeting upgraded to a full board meeting
  214. 2002-06-17 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonights meeting upgraded to a full board meeting
  215. 2002-06-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] meeting to discuss accounting desktop
  216. 2002-06-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] meeting to discuss accounting desktop
  217. 2002-06-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LINC: Using GNU/Linux in Organizing [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  218. 2002-06-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LINC: Using GNU/Linux in Organizing [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  219. 2002-06-17 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] Current, Open & Ongoing Technology Grants
  220. 2002-06-17 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] LINC: Using GNU/Linux in Organizing
  221. 2002-06-17 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio show
  222. 2002-06-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show updated
  223. 2002-06-19 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] NY times reports Disney switches to Linux for anima
  224. 2002-06-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] nfs4 patches being prepared for kernel 2.5
  225. 2002-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] JOB FAIR This Tuesday, June 25 Open to all
  226. 2002-06-20 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [alexc2649-at-nyc.rr.com: [hangout] accounting desktop meeting]
  227. 2002-06-20 alex <alexc2649-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] accounting desktop meeting
  228. 2002-06-20 alex <alexc2649-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] accounting desktop meeting
  229. 2002-06-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  230. 2002-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  231. 2002-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] perl hash value
  232. 2002-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] perl hash value
  233. 2002-06-21 Matus Telgarsky <mit-at-juilliard.edu> Re: [hangout] More on Home Theatre
  234. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Speach for French Program
  235. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Speach for French Program
  236. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Internet Radio
  237. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Internet Radio
  238. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Website updates
  239. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Website updates
  240. 2002-06-21 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] More on Home Theatre
  241. 2002-06-21 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] More on Home Theatre
  242. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bylaws and website
  243. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  244. 2002-06-21 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  245. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Packet Forwarding
  246. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Packet Forwarding
  247. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Packet Forwarding
  248. 2002-06-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  249. 2002-06-23 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Monday 24 June 2002 NYLXS: Ruben Safir on the Theory and Practice of Several Communicating Processes, with Special Attention to GTk
  250. 2002-06-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Still no addresses in the classes site
  251. 2002-06-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] perl hash value
  252. 2002-06-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Custom workflow software
  253. 2002-06-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Custom workflow software
  254. 2002-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using Linux) (fwd)
  255. 2002-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using Linux) (fwd)
  256. 2002-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TECHEXPO
  257. 2002-06-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  258. 2002-06-23 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using
  259. 2002-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  260. 2002-06-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  261. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  262. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  263. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] OpenSSH Vulnerability [okir-at-suse.de]
  264. 2002-06-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] nyc-based internet radio (fwd)
  265. 2002-06-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] [wwwac] nyc-based internet radio (fwd)
  266. 2002-06-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  267. 2002-06-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  268. 2002-06-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Still no addresses in the classes site
  269. 2002-06-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Still no addresses in the classes site
  270. 2002-06-26 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 26 June 2002 Silicon Alley Live Broadcast from TECHXNY and More on the UNIGROUP GNU/Linux Multimedia Meeting
  271. 2002-06-26 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Diskless terminals question
  272. 2002-06-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tomorrow Mornings Accountiong Desktop Meeting
  273. 2002-06-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS to "Take On" GPL
  274. 2002-06-26 From: "Brandon Miller" <brandon-at-careercenters.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Membership to NYLXS
  275. 2002-06-26 From: "Brandon Miller" <brandon-at-careercenters.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Membership to NYLXS
  276. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Membership to NYLXS
  277. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Membership to NYLXS
  278. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Recording Sound on a Laptop
  279. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Recording Sound on a Laptop
  280. 2002-06-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  281. 2002-06-27 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  282. 2002-06-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  283. 2002-06-27 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  284. 2002-06-27 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  285. 2002-06-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Recording Sound on a Laptop
  286. 2002-06-28 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Initiatvie Meeting (fwd)
  287. 2002-06-30 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  288. 2002-06-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Cruise
  289. 2002-06-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Shared Secrets using SSH Sentinal fails [ruben-at-www2]
  290. 2002-06-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Membership to NYLXS
  291. 2002-06-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  292. 2002-06-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  293. 2002-06-27 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Domain name registrars
  294. 2002-06-09 Paul Davis <pbd-at-op.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Changing a Label Presentation
  295. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  296. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  297. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  298. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  299. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  300. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  301. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  302. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  303. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  304. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  305. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  306. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  307. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  308. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  309. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  310. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac]! programmer for e-commerce website [davis.carla-at-earthlink.net]
  311. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac]! programmer for e-commerce website [davis.carla-at-earthlink.net]
  312. 2002-06-24 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  313. 2002-06-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed

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