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DATE 2002-06-09
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Washington Post


See

Tony is loosing opputunities here to make himself look good...


Why is this man smiling?

June 10, 2002
By Alex Daniels/adaniels-at-washtech.com,


Olivier Douliery/Techway

Jack Valenti of the Motion Picture Association of America

SEE ALSO: Recording industry: Now it's time to get paid

The entertainment industry may have won a few battles against online pirates, but the war has just begun

Music and movie moguls crowded a Capitol Hill reception last month to toast the four-year-old Digital Millenium Copyright Act, the landmark law guarding copyrighted material from digital pirates.

Jack Valenti, the snowy-haired chief of the Motion Picture Association of America, stepped to the microphone to laud congressional efforts on behalf of Hollywood. Hilary Rosen, president and CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America and the sworn enemy of legions of Napster fans, beamed nearby.

"If you can't protect anything you own," said Valenti, "you don't own anything."

As the guests clinked champagne glasses, digital thieves around the world were double-clicking to buy pirated copies of "Star Wars: Attack of the Clones" from Web sites that were hawking the movie ? a flick still days away from release in theaters.

Though the International Intellectual Property Alliance hasn't tabulated how much is lost to piracy on the Internet, it estimates that book publishers, recording and movie studios and software developers already lose more than $20 billion a year from physical piracy.

So why were Valenti and Rosen smiling?

Good question. The combination of the Internet with bigger, faster and cheaper computers, including ones that burn CDs, is making it easier than ever to make and distribute flawless copies. Attempts to provide a tech fix have fallen flat.

"There is no such thing as a hacker-proof technology," says Michael Miron, CEO of ContentGuard, a Bethesda company developing a system to protect digital content from easy copying. "If you make such a claim, you're hanging a big target on your back."

Meanwhile, the digital dilemma clearly threatens to hold up already disappointing rates of broadband adoption. Media companies remain wary of putting valuable content online for fear it will be pirated and spread round the world at cyber-speeds. But without more available content, consumers have less incentive to abandon their dial-up connections for DSL or cable modem services that can cost twice as much. Just 7 percent of U.S. households have high-speed Internet service.


IN THE WASHINGTON AREA, the fight to protect digital rights holds enormous implications for two media giants, AOL Time Warner and Discovery Communications, not to mention dozens of other smaller companies, from newsletter publishers to independent filmmakers.

Last year's mega-merger of Dulles-based AOL and Time Warner was supposed to create a giant, combining AOL's Internet dominance with Time Warner's cable empire and huge portfolio of movies, music, magazines and television shows. But when it comes to digital rights, the giant has two heads.

Nearly 90 percent of AOL's 25 million U.S. Internet subscribers still use a dial-up connection. To lure customers to higher-speed services?and keep them in the AOL tent?the company wants to offer splashy content such as movies and music. But the Time Warner side of the house worries that releasing its valuable assets online could open the door to unauthorized use, diluting their value.

"We're on both sides of this," acknowledges Joe Cantwell, AOL Time Warner's vice president for broadband affiliate marketing.

AOL did not respond to requests to interview other company officials about the dilemma. But Paul Kim, an analyst at Kaufman Brothers, a New York investment bank, says the company is straddling the fence while it waits for the murky issue of digital piracy to clear up.

"You have existing distribution channels that are doing very well for you," Kim says, referring to cable television, movie rentals and retail sales. "Why mess with that?"

Discovery, the Bethesda-based media company, plans to introduce a video-on-demand television service June 17. Subscribers will be able to access network servers full of Discovery content such as Animal Planet and the Travel Channel.

The service is a milestone in Discovery's move into digital media. Along with it come fears that its content will be swiped.

Bob Allman, senior vice president and general manager of Discovery Online, admits he's nervous the video-on-demand service will bring out the "buzzards." The company plans to employ technology to stop piracy, though Allman refuses to discuss how.

But perhaps a more important point is that Allman is convinced consumers are willing to pay for online videos if the services are easy to use?even if other content is available for free. After all, before compact discs arrived in the mid-1980s, teen-agers bought plenty of music cassette tapes even though they could easily make copies of equal quality.

"There's a state-sponsored Napster for books ? it's called a library," says Allman. And although public libraries have been around for decades, people still buy plenty of books at Barnes & Noble.

A survey released last month by Jupiter Media Metrix suggests that Napster-like file-sharing programs may actually boost sales. The survey found that music listeners who were experienced with file sharing were 75 percent more likely to increase their music spending than those without file-sharing experience.

"We've been too slow in offering music for sale online," admits Rosen. Her bigger problem, however, is figuring out how to get consumers to pay for something that's available for free at the click of a mouse.

More then 350,000 movie files are illegally downloaded on the Web each day, according to Viant, a Boston-based Internet consulting company.

And to Rosen's dismay, the online trading of music files continues to flourish. True, the once mighty Napster was vanquished in the courts and sold off as a shell last month to German media giant Bertelsmann for a paltry $8 million. But many of Napster's 64 million users have simply turned to alternate sites such as Morpheus and KaZaA to swap copyrighted music for free. Those services have escaped Napster's fate ? so far ? because the files aren't stored on their networks.

The music industry's few online offerings of licensed content have been met with a shrug. Susan Kevorkian, an analyst for market research company IDC, predicts online music services are generating just a few hundred thousand dollars in annual revenue and says the industry will be hard pressed to top $10 million in revenue by 2005.

"They've been very closed mouthed about it," Kevorkian says. But she concedes that meeting even her conservative projections "may be hard given what they're up against. Free music services are still available."

MusicNet, a subscription-based music service launched last October with music licensed by BMG, EMI, Warner and Zomba, would not disclose sales or subscriber figures. MusicNet offers 80,000 titles, well below the hundreds of thousands of titles that Napster was offering at its peak.


TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT of more online pay sites, nearly two dozen software companies are busy at work developing digital rights management (DRM) software to help content owners put a digital leash on copyrighted material. But their solutions are far from foolproof.

DRM software allows copyright holders to write usage rules into their music and video files. The software typically is a set of data that describes each media file and sets terms for its use. A song file can be overlaid with a "digital watermark" that confirms its authenticity and an encryption code only allows authorized users to access it. The software can be written to destroy a file after it's played a certain number of times and can even limit the file's use to individual computers or media player devices.

For instance, a media company can write rules in to a music file that allows a user to download it off of the Internet and make a back up copy for personal use. But the rules can also restrict further copying.

But DRM software is off to a rocky start. Last year, IDC pegged the annual DRM market in the United States at $96 million and predicted it would grow to $3.5 billion in 2005.

IDC analyst Joshua Duhl says that prediction will be revised downward when new figures are made available next month, thanks to a sluggish economy, unprofitable transaction-based pricing models and a patchwork of offerings and standards.

For instance, Microsoft makes software that will only work on its media players, and RealNetworks makes software tailored for use on its Real media players.

Interoperability isn't the only problem. Unless software is totally invisible to the average consumer and easy to use, securing content with DRM software could fail and rip-off artists will reign unchecked, analysts say.

Even if software becomes standardized, it probably won't be hard for skilled digital pirates to give it the hook. Content providers and DRM software developers concede some level of piracy is inevitable. Their goal is to keep it out of the hands of the masses.

Patrick Breslin says all it takes to copy electronic music files is a trip to an electronics store for a cable and basic computer know-how. "That's not amazing technology and it doesn't mean I'm a hacker," says Breslin, CEO of Relatable in Alexandria.

Relatable, which Breslin founded in 1999 with less than $1 million from friends and family, has developed software that recognizes music files based on their acoustic properties, helping content owners verify the authenticity of the files. It can make "fingerprints" of consumers' song files and compare them to original recordings held in copyright holders' databases. Relatable's software can identify bootlegged recordings sent out under bogus file names.

Last summer, after promising to honor copyrights, Napster installed Relatable's software to sniff out unlicensed songs on its network. Breslin says the software scanned hundreds of millions of files on the network

The future of Napster is unclear, and Relatable has yet to turn a profit. But Breslin says he is negotiating deals with other music providers. The key, he says, will be convincing content owners to jump into the Internet.

"They're saying, 'Let's put plywood on the windows and bar the door,'" Breslin says. "We're saying, 'Let's make this a huge Wal-Mart.' Everyone who wants to go out the door needs to pass the cash register."

Miron, the CEO of ContentGuard agrees that content owners can make money on the Internet, even in competition with free music and video offerings.

Reliable DRM software and exciting content will help, he says, but the patchwork of different protection products on the market is holding things back. "The industry would be a hell of a lot better off if all participants had a common way to express rights," for their material, he says.

Content Guard is majority owned by Xerox and funded in the "triple-digit millions" by Microsoft. The company hopes that XrML, a language developed at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center, will become the standard language for expressing rights on media files due to its ability to operate on different computer systems and applications.

ContentGuard designs custom software using XrML and hopes to earn revenue from patents it holds on computer languages expressing copyrights. The company won't disclose revenues.

Two other languages, ODRL and XCML, are also in the running to become the standard. Last fall, ContentGuard scored a win when the MPEG-21, an international group working to develop standards for the creation and distribution of multimedia content selected XrML as its base language.

The company is now submitting XrML to other standards bodies. But even if the software becomes the coin of the realm in the digital copyright world, it won't matter unless studios and record labels to warm up to the Internet. And Miron isn't sure how that will happen.

Options include monthly subscriptions or fees for downloads. Media companies also are experimenting with putting premium information on the Web, such as anthologies, live recordings and tour and concert information. While such material can be copied, media owners are betting people will pay if it is cheap and easy to access.

"The business models that will succeed online probably do not exist today," Miron says. "The state of the industry is mostly dabbling and experimenting, which is why piracy is still the dominant, scaled offering."


WHILE COMPANIES LIKE CONTENTGUARD and Relatable work on a tech fix, policy makers are taking a closer look at digital piracy law. For some, the DMCA doesn't go far enough. To stop music and video pirates, Sen. Ernest F. Hollings, the South Carolina Democrat, is sponsoring a bill that would require all interactive devices to incorporate anti-piracy technology.

The measure would give manufacturers one year to comply, but doesn't call for a specific type of technology to be used. The bill has the support of media and entertainment executives such as Rosen and Valenti.

But the technology lobby opposes the bill. Groups such as the Software & Information Industry Association believe anti-piracy technologies are at too early a stage in their development to draw up government standards. The only way copyright protection standards will develop, they argue, is if the government gets out of the way and allows the marketplace to sort out what works.

"It doesn't have legs," declares Rep. Rick Boucher, a Virginia Democrat, an opponent of the Hollings measure. Boucher, co-chairman of the House Internet Caucus, believes the DMCA should be re-examined because it favors copyright holders at the expense of legitimate users.

Opponents of the DMCA, who include libraries and universities, contend that the law restricts what is known as the "fair use" of a copyrighted material. Because of the fear of mass distribution of content via the Internet, critics say the DMCA wrongly makes it a criminal act to make back up copies of music and video or sell a single copy to a friend.

Rather than jealously protecting their copyrights, Boucher thinks media companies should make the jump online.

"They think all of the world is full of pirates," he says. "It's not. They should start aggressively using the Internet."

© Copyright 2002 The Washington Post Company









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  67. 2002-06-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Symantec Website
  68. 2002-06-10 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  69. 2002-06-10 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] gnu and linux
  70. 2002-06-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  71. 2002-06-10 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  72. 2002-06-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  73. 2002-06-10 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  74. 2002-06-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  75. 2002-06-10 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  76. 2002-06-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Wednesday June 12, 2002 GNUbies meeting - Wendell Anderson -
  77. 2002-06-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Wednesday June 12, 2002 GNUbies meeting - Wendell Anderson -
  78. 2002-06-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use Bill
  79. 2002-06-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use Bill
  80. 2002-06-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  81. 2002-06-10 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Washington Post
  82. 2002-06-10 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  83. 2002-06-10 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  84. 2002-06-10 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> RE: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  85. 2002-06-10 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Symantec Website
  86. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linuxworld
  87. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linuxworld
  88. 2002-06-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] village voice
  89. 2002-06-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] village voice
  90. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  91. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  92. 2002-06-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Linuxworld
  93. 2002-06-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] classes and such
  94. 2002-06-09 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  95. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Post
  96. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Post
  97. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] village voice
  98. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] village voice
  99. 2002-06-09 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-voyager.bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] village voice
  100. 2002-06-09 Dov Grobgeld <dov-at-imagic.weizmann.ac.il> Subject: [hangout] Re: Changing a Label Presentation
  101. 2002-06-09 Dov Grobgeld <dov-at-imagic.weizmann.ac.il> Subject: [hangout] Re: Changing a Label Presentation
  102. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  103. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] craigslist postings
  104. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] craigslist postings
  105. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] village voice
  106. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] village voice
  107. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] village voice
  108. 2002-06-09 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] village voice
  109. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Changing a Label Presentation
  110. 2002-06-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  111. 2002-06-10 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Symantec Website
  112. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  113. 2002-06-11 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  114. 2002-06-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  115. 2002-06-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  116. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  117. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  118. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  119. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  120. 2002-06-11 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal
  121. 2002-06-11 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal
  122. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  123. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  124. 2002-06-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  125. 2002-06-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  126. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  127. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  128. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  129. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  130. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  131. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  132. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  133. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Installfests for September, October
  134. 2002-06-11 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  135. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  136. 2002-06-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show
  137. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tuesday 11 June 2002 WWWAC Open Source SIG: Clay Gordon on Heck.com
  138. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tuesday 11 June 2002 WWWAC Open Source SIG: Clay Gordon on Heck.com
  139. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  140. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  141. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [vipertek-at-megalink.net: usergroup]For the Membership Committee
  142. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  143. 2002-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  144. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Summer class schedule
  145. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Summer class schedule
  146. 2002-06-11 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  147. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] classes and such
  148. 2002-06-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Making Virtual Meetings with Free Software
  149. 2002-06-11 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] classes and such
  150. 2002-06-11 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 12 June 2002 NYSA: David Stenglein on Clustering, Past, Present, and Future
  151. 2002-06-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Making Virtual Meetings with Free Software
  152. 2002-06-10 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Washington Post
  153. 2002-06-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  154. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article 2 - GTK Programming
  155. 2002-06-12 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 12 June 2002 Mozilla Release Party
  156. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Issues regarding Linux closed source drivers (fwd) [jays-at-panix.com]
  157. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article 1 - Political Action Report
  158. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source:
  159. 2002-06-12 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  160. 2002-06-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Greenpeace cans Windows
  161. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] JOB: "Sysop" [claygordon-at-mindspring.com]
  162. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  163. 2002-06-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  164. 2002-06-13 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] MITRE Study on Open Source in Government
  165. 2002-06-12 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  166. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  167. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  168. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  169. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  170. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  171. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
  172. 2002-06-14 Mark Halegua <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [hangout] Know your rights - all three of them
  173. 2002-06-14 Mark Halegua <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [hangout] Know your rights - all three of them
  174. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I updated the radio page on the server
  175. 2002-06-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I updated the radio page on the server
  176. 2002-06-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] adieu (for the summer)
  177. 2002-06-13 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] adieu (for the summer)
  178. 2002-06-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job announcement: Systems administrator (human rights and open source/free software) [colleenw-at-bway.net]
  179. 2002-06-13 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Is Ruben the only one...
  180. 2002-06-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Know your rights - all three of them
  181. 2002-06-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Command Sarget Major of Scheduling - Include the dinner
  182. 2002-06-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] resource list
  183. 2002-06-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] resource list
  184. 2002-06-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] resource list
  185. 2002-06-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! Re: [wwwac] more about dreamweaver mx
  186. 2002-06-14 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] menace
  187. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwac web-based forum
  188. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwac web-based forum
  189. 2002-06-14 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Civili Liberties and spying
  190. 2002-06-14 From: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBSaWNoYXJkc29u?= <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] =?utf-8?B?UkU6IFtoYW5nb3V0XSBBcmUgd2UgdXAgdG8gIk9kZCBKb2IiIHN0?= =?utf-8?B?YW5kYXJkcz8=?=
  191. 2002-06-14 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Are we up to "Odd Job" standards?
  192. 2002-06-15 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-voyager.bxscience.edu> GNU/Linux within the New York City School System | Was: Re: [hangout] cablevision
  193. 2002-06-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] cablevision
  194. 2002-06-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] I updated the craigslist postings
  195. 2002-06-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] I updated the craigslist postings
  196. 2002-06-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  197. 2002-06-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  198. 2002-06-16 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee members
  199. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Education Center - Tonights Broadcast
  200. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Education Center - Tonights Broadcast
  201. 2002-06-16 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Deadline
  202. 2002-06-16 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Tuesday 18 June 2002 IPCNYCLA: Copyright and the Museum of Comic and Cartoon Art
  203. 2002-06-16 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Subject: [hangout] Real Pulled plug on Linux
  204. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwacs: unnerviing new virus trick with OE preview pane/Word [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  205. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] wwwacs: unnerviing new virus trick with OE preview pane/Word [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  206. 2002-06-16 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Command Sarget Major of Scheduling - Include the dinner
  207. 2002-06-16 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Command Sarget Major of Scheduling - Include the dinner
  208. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Longterm NYLXS calendar
  209. 2002-06-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS at CUNY
  210. 2002-06-16 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  211. 2002-06-16 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: Adobe needs GNU/Linux expert
  212. 2002-06-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] last night's show
  213. 2002-06-17 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonights meeting upgraded to a full board meeting
  214. 2002-06-17 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonights meeting upgraded to a full board meeting
  215. 2002-06-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] meeting to discuss accounting desktop
  216. 2002-06-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] meeting to discuss accounting desktop
  217. 2002-06-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LINC: Using GNU/Linux in Organizing [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  218. 2002-06-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LINC: Using GNU/Linux in Organizing [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  219. 2002-06-17 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] Current, Open & Ongoing Technology Grants
  220. 2002-06-17 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] LINC: Using GNU/Linux in Organizing
  221. 2002-06-17 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio show
  222. 2002-06-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show updated
  223. 2002-06-19 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] NY times reports Disney switches to Linux for anima
  224. 2002-06-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] nfs4 patches being prepared for kernel 2.5
  225. 2002-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] JOB FAIR This Tuesday, June 25 Open to all
  226. 2002-06-20 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [alexc2649-at-nyc.rr.com: [hangout] accounting desktop meeting]
  227. 2002-06-20 alex <alexc2649-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] accounting desktop meeting
  228. 2002-06-20 alex <alexc2649-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] accounting desktop meeting
  229. 2002-06-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  230. 2002-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  231. 2002-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] perl hash value
  232. 2002-06-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] perl hash value
  233. 2002-06-21 Matus Telgarsky <mit-at-juilliard.edu> Re: [hangout] More on Home Theatre
  234. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Speach for French Program
  235. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Speach for French Program
  236. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Internet Radio
  237. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Internet Radio
  238. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Website updates
  239. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Website updates
  240. 2002-06-21 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] More on Home Theatre
  241. 2002-06-21 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] More on Home Theatre
  242. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] bylaws and website
  243. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  244. 2002-06-21 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  245. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Packet Forwarding
  246. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Packet Forwarding
  247. 2002-06-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Packet Forwarding
  248. 2002-06-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] IBM Space offers and Downtown Services
  249. 2002-06-23 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Monday 24 June 2002 NYLXS: Ruben Safir on the Theory and Practice of Several Communicating Processes, with Special Attention to GTk
  250. 2002-06-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Still no addresses in the classes site
  251. 2002-06-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] perl hash value
  252. 2002-06-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Custom workflow software
  253. 2002-06-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Custom workflow software
  254. 2002-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using Linux) (fwd)
  255. 2002-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using Linux) (fwd)
  256. 2002-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TECHEXPO
  257. 2002-06-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  258. 2002-06-23 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using
  259. 2002-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  260. 2002-06-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  261. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  262. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  263. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] OpenSSH Vulnerability [okir-at-suse.de]
  264. 2002-06-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] nyc-based internet radio (fwd)
  265. 2002-06-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] [wwwac] nyc-based internet radio (fwd)
  266. 2002-06-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  267. 2002-06-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  268. 2002-06-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Still no addresses in the classes site
  269. 2002-06-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Still no addresses in the classes site
  270. 2002-06-26 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 26 June 2002 Silicon Alley Live Broadcast from TECHXNY and More on the UNIGROUP GNU/Linux Multimedia Meeting
  271. 2002-06-26 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Diskless terminals question
  272. 2002-06-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tomorrow Mornings Accountiong Desktop Meeting
  273. 2002-06-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS to "Take On" GPL
  274. 2002-06-26 From: "Brandon Miller" <brandon-at-careercenters.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Membership to NYLXS
  275. 2002-06-26 From: "Brandon Miller" <brandon-at-careercenters.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Membership to NYLXS
  276. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Membership to NYLXS
  277. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Membership to NYLXS
  278. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Recording Sound on a Laptop
  279. 2002-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Recording Sound on a Laptop
  280. 2002-06-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  281. 2002-06-27 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  282. 2002-06-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  283. 2002-06-27 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  284. 2002-06-27 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Radio Show Issues [wynkoop-at-wynn.com]
  285. 2002-06-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Recording Sound on a Laptop
  286. 2002-06-28 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Initiatvie Meeting (fwd)
  287. 2002-06-30 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  288. 2002-06-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Cruise
  289. 2002-06-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Shared Secrets using SSH Sentinal fails [ruben-at-www2]
  290. 2002-06-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Membership to NYLXS
  291. 2002-06-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  292. 2002-06-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux demo at LaGuardia community college
  293. 2002-06-27 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Domain name registrars
  294. 2002-06-09 Paul Davis <pbd-at-op.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Changing a Label Presentation
  295. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  296. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  297. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  298. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  299. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  300. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  301. 2002-06-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  302. 2002-06-14 Diane Rollins <dr57-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! - weird exclamation point
  303. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  304. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  305. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  306. 2002-06-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  307. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  308. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  309. 2002-06-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac]! the brain-dead exclamation point solution
  310. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac]! programmer for e-commerce website [davis.carla-at-earthlink.net]
  311. 2002-06-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac]! programmer for e-commerce website [davis.carla-at-earthlink.net]
  312. 2002-06-24 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed
  313. 2002-06-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Multi-Media Tech support needed

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