|SUBJECT ||Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:31:02 -0400
To: Ruben I Safir
Cc: "Brendan W . McAdams" ,
Michael Richardson , hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] I Bid You All Adieu
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:40:28PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> > I've done a lot of side by side comparatives with Photoshop 7 and GIMP
> > in the last few weeks. Other than scripting, Photoshop has GIMP beaten.
> No it doesn't. It runs in a larger foot print and crashes systems,
> even the vaulted Mac OS.
> It's just inferior....
> > I still can't get the GIMP to read Photoshop files entirely.
> I have no problem. I read every graphic file I come in contact with.
> And if adobe makes a broken format, which they did, BTW, with the new
> Acrobat reader, who cares. Thats a Photshop PROBLEM.
> Not a featre.
> > It doesn't
> > handle certain layer masking,
> Yes it does, and it does so differnelt and more effectively that Photo Shop with STUNNING results.
> >it can't read layer names, it can't do a
> > lot of things.
> The layers show up in the layers windows - just fine, and can be cut and pasted from one
> image to another. In addition, in ScriptFU, you can store them in vairables...
> > Working within its own limitations GIMP is a great
> > little program though.
> Well, working within Photoshops limitations, it still crashes computers
> and sucks.
> Other than that, it's fine.
> > Excel? Well, Gnumeric is doing a great job there. But being an idiot
> > regarding spreadsheets I can't really talk - I'm sure there's alot of
> > functionality not THERE yet.
> Gnumeric is not excell...
> THANK THE GODS!!
> Excell is a security hazzard.
> > Word? Don't get me started.
> Word is a contacnt moving target. Abiword sucks, Open Office seems to
> work much better. And it's not Word!!
> And that's the best part.
> > You have to keep in mind that even if it's a "different" product, that
> > all the functionality has to be there!
> No it doesn't. Keep that in mind. Stupid functionality designed to
> handicap the user needs to be discarded quickly, and right from the
> >A Spreadsheet is a spreadsheet,
> > and a word processor is a word processor.
> Really, then why does MS Word keep getting bigger and more of a train wreck
> every implimentation?
> > What do we need to do, and how can we do it? OK, let's start coding!
> And we are actually working on identifying this, and we can use your help.
> > I find it disturbing however that you are willing to continue to
> > evangelize a vastly inferior product line without
> It's a vastly BETTER line.
> > Should NYLXS express an interest in working with me on /PROVIDING/
> > software to the *Nix community;
> No - we are not. We are not about *nix, but about Free Software.
> If your interested in providing good free software solutions, we are
> interested in helping you get the feedback and marketing you need.
All free OSes are Unix-compatible. And almost all Free Software will
run on any Unix with no problem. Free software is written to the Unix
API, because that's what the free OSes implement. This is not an
accident, of course. Free software's foothold was in providing a
superior toolset to users of commercial Unix systems. Essentially,
free software (written to free OS Unix-compatible APIs) ends up being
Unix software, so free software is provided to the Unix community.
Windows users can join the Unix community by installing Cygwin
or U/WIN on their machines, and thus implementing the Unix API.
> > And for Ruben, if someone could only come out with a GNU/spellcheck
> > program =P
> There are several, aspell, ispell, pspell.
> It's built into balsa
Maybe someone should install balsa for Ruben :) ...
"The funk, the whole funk, and nothing but the funk."
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