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| DATE | 2002-08-15 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Oligopolist moves some stuff to GNU/Linux
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Aug 15 20:53:51 2002 Received: from mail.rm-cpa.com (mail.rm-cpa.com [216.112.229.114]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g7G0rjeY002365 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:53:47 -0400 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (ruben.wynn.com [199.89.147.250]) by mail.rm-cpa.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g7G0YvT19430; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:34:57 -0400 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g7G0jLeY002207 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:45:21 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g7G0jLhW002206 for hangout-desteny; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:45:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g7G0jFeY002201; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:45:15 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g7G0jFT6002200; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:45:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:45:15 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: Jay Sulzberger Cc: wwwac-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Oligopolist moves some stuff to GNU/Linux Message-ID: <20020816004515.GA2091-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20020815182345.A2758-at-grumpy.dog-media.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ruben Safir List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Content-Length: 3203 Lines: 88 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3072
That's just equiptment.
Licensing frees would generate a number ten times that cost, plus the self administration of the system, and security will push the price even higher.
Ruben
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 07:57:49PM -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Duane Douglas wrote: > > > > > On 2002.08.15 15:03 Jay Sulzberger wrote: > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > Subject: Verizon switches programmers to Linux - Tech News - CNET.com > > > X-URL: http://news.com.com/2102-1001-949913.html > > > > > > < ... /> > > > > > > Verizon switches programmers to Linux > > > By Stephen Shankland > > > Staff Writer, CNET News.com > > > August 15, 2002, 5:32 AM PT > > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-949913.html > > > SAN FRANCISCO--Telecommunications company Verizon Communications saved > > > $6 million in equipment costs by moving its programmers to Linux > > > computers, the company said Wednesday. > > > > > > The company cut costs by replacing programmers' Unix and Windows > > > workstations with Linux systems that run OpenOffice instead of > > > Microsoft Office, said George Hughes, a Verizon executive overseeing > > > the work. The average desktop cost went from $22,000 to $3,000 per > > > developer, he said in a talk at the LinuxWorld Conference and Expo. > > > > > > < ... /> > > > > $22k for a windows workstation? that seems very high (even with software > > costs). those are inflated prices or someone was ripping off verizon. on > > the other hand, that figure sounds about right for some sun solaris > > workstations. > > > > Duane Douglas > > This is an interesting number. I believe that if calculated correctly for > many lans of Microsoft products this number would be in the ball park. But > I do not believe that anybody in the chain here has made what I would > regard as a correct computation. Rather I think this number is some > imputed cost of a fully working old proprietary non-IBM-style-peecee > workstation equipped with a suite of proprietary tools, such as compilers, > special purpose development tools, etc.. Perhaps some averaging with > Microsoft database development tools and costs of hours lost due to downage > has been done. > > oo--JS. > > > > ## The World Wide Web Artists' Consortium --- http://www.wwwac.org/ ## > ## To Unsubscribe, send an e-mail to: wwwac-unsubscribe-at-lists.wwwac.org ##
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