MESSAGE
| DATE | 2002-08-21 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
|
| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin@danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes & Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:54:47AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> We need to look at our past, so we don't (hopefully) make the same mistakes.
> What we see as doing our best, they see as a snare into servitude. We are
> the only country that believes the whitewashed press releases that we have
> been writing for the past 200+ years.
This is Gibberish. Do yop think the Europeans are in a position to make a
judgment on the US.
They wouldn't know freedom if it came and kicked them in the teeth.
The world judges us on the resentful inferiority complexes and
bigoted biases.
Or let's look at Africa!
nope
Southeast Asia?
Nope
Hmmm --- yeah
You know what, this remains the only major nation on Earth with a moral compass.
You can wax poetic about not trusting the government and the terrors of the
US, and the "blood on our hands"
You have no idea Mike. Your interpretation of American History
is a little skewed by prejudgement.
And the danger from Iraq is real, and not imaginary. I have no faith
in the judgement of the Europeans of the Canadians, or ex-Bush officials
on this matter.
This MAN will Nuke NY. And he'll do it without a second though.
BTW - your statement about the Civil War not being over emancipation
is just incorrect. By the end of the war, every racist in the North had to
face the fact that they just fought for 3 years over emancipation, whether they
liked it or not.
There was no WAY that they were going back to a slavce system in the south after all that.
> People around the world judge us by
> our track record not by what we say. Remember this is a country that not
> only lies to its people but does kill them while claiming to be "Miss goody
> two shoes". don't get me wrong I would rather be here than in any other
> country. But I believe that the founding fathers added the Bill of Rights
> to the Constitution because they did not trust the government they put
> together. NETHER WE SHOULD WE.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:10 PM
> To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'
> Cc: Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
>
>
>
> The answer is yes, we do have a bloody history just like every other nation
> on earth. What we don't want to do is take responisibility for the sins of
> our forefathers. Some of what they did (and not all of them participated in
> it) was wrong. What makes us different is the desire to do something right
> and not look back in the past. Do we concider ourselves worthy of being
> alive? Do you think that by upholding the principles of cooperation, spread
> of knowledge, tolerance and unity you deserve a chance to make a difference
> in the lives of many people? Doesn't the fact that we are doing our best to
> promote the use of Linux in the very countries that hate us with a passion
> entitle us to doing our work and not be slaughtered by some maniac who wants
> to make a statement?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:40 PM
> To: Vilensky, Alex; 'Ruben I Safir'
> Cc: Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
>
>
> Our founding fathers did not want to pay taxes. That was why the wrote the
> Declaration of Independence. Life was put it because they knew they were
> signing their death warrant. liberty because as long as they had their
> liberty they had their lives. Happiness because they were happy to be
> alive. The United States of America had Blood on it's hands before it
> became a Nation (French and Indian wars). This Nation was born in Blood
> (the Revolution) second round in 1812. The Alamo, Spanish American war, did
> I say that this Country broke every treaty that was signed with the Native
> American Indian? while killing as many as possible in as many was as was
> possible? When this Country could not find anyone to fight we chose up
> sides and fought ourselves. The Civil War (Bloodiest on record) had nothing
> to do with slavery (NOT ONE SLAVE WAS FREEDED BECAUSE OF IT). Read the
> Emancipation Proclamation if you don't believe me. The war to end all wars
> we wanted no part of. We went in anyway. W.W.II we supplied everyone (I am
> not sure about the Germany). Korea was McArther's bid for Chesarship.
> Vietnam Johnson said was a nice little war to get involed in. Granada was
> just a little exercise. Desert Storm was about protecting oil. For a young
> nation we have a lot of blood on our hands which has nothing to do with what
> this country says it stand for. (This country stands for Money and nothing
> else). And this does not get into the blood of the citizens of this country
> that was spilled.
>
> PS I won't be able to respond until latter tonight or tomorrow.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:09 PM
> To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'
> Cc: Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
>
>
> What makes some of us different is the absence of hatred. We do what we do
> not out of hatred for Saddam, but because we need to save our lives and,
> also, because we stand for the principles that built our country: life,
> liberty and pursuit of happiness.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: 'Ruben I Safir'
> Cc: Vilensky, Alex; Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
>
>
> Empires are about money and power the hate is fermented to get the mass to
> go along and not think. Take a look at all empires or countries that have
> been and are currently existence. You will notice that the bloodiest
> religious cleansing and regions occur at the time of expansion or
> consolidation. The hate works on the idea that the other guy is not of the
> people.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:36 PM
> To: Michael Richardson
> Cc: AlexV-at-ilx.com; Michael Richardson; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky;
> hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
>
>
>
>
> That's why they attack.
>
> I though they attack because Sadam Hussain has grand visions of empire
> srinkled with a heavey does of anti-semitism, and and Kurdish tendencies.
>
>
> Are you sure?
>
>
> Ruben
>
> On 2002.08.20 15:16 Michael Richardson wrote:
> >
> > They do what they do to America because they believe or feel that we have
> > backed them into a corner with no other way out. give them a way out!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:09 PM
> > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky
> > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> >
> >
> >
> > OK, I accept their right to live their life the way they want it. Will
> that
> > stop Saddam and Osama from going on with their plans to exterminate
> > Americans?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:57 PM
> > To: Vilensky, Alex; Michael Richardson; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky
> > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> >
> >
> > No we need to accept that other people have their own life and are there
> > existence is not at our whim, also to be honest and fair with them.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:54 PM
> > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky
> > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with you, but what's the alternative? Should we wait for another
> > mega-attack on our soil?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:11 PM
> > To: 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky
> > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> >
> >
> >
> > Right now attacking Saddam will just be a smoke screen to get the American
> > people to go along with the program of giving up OUR RIGHTS AS GIVEN US
> > UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION. War as always been the best way to get us to
> > give up our rights without to much vocal resistance. Also look at who
> goes
> > to war (not the polications who votes for it). Who makes the money from
> it?
> > Make no mistake war is primary about money. second is power. God is used
> to
> > Jusifty the first two without talking about them.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:55 PM
> > To: Matus Telgarsky
> > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> >
> >
> >
> > That would be "BOINK" - not right and without evidence of historical fact.
> >
> >
> > See Indian - American
> > See - like nearly every historical slaughter going back to Ur.
> >
> > Micheal was right, G Bush should have done it the first time. Leaving
> Iraq
> > with it's missle research lab and nuclear program intact, and oppressive
> > political
> > regien with it's bigoted hatred of minories, Kurds and Jews in place was a
> > HUGE ERROR.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> > > as far as history, this is the case with every instance of
> > oppression-revolt,
> > > attack-counterattack.
> > >
> >
> > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:53:41 -0400 Ruben I Safir
> > > Deliberately scrawled:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There is no historical precidendence for this.
> > > >
> > > > This is jibberish
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2002.08.20 12:42 Matus Telgarsky wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The more we are aggressive, the more we insure a counterattack
> (likely
> > a
> > > > > nuke).
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't fight hate and/or guerilla/terrorist tactics the way you
> > fight a
> > > > > standing army.
> > > > >
> > > > > -mateurasjkfk
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:09:08 -0400 Ruben I Safir
>
> > > > > Deliberately scrawled:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't want NYC Nuked
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really don't CARE about anything else in this matter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2002.08.20 11:50 Ray Connolly wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think the mistake your refering to is WWII
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:37 AM
> > > > > > > To: Michael Richardson
> > > > > > > Cc: 'Ruben Safir'; hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247:
> Pipes
> > &
> > > > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sadam Hussain is a Neo-Nazi with genocidal tendenacies who will
> > have
> > > > > > > Nuclear Weapons
> > > > > > > pointed at New York in a year or less.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No thank you. We've made this mistake once and it cost us the
> > World
> > > > > > > Trade Center.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do not want to nuked...........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2002.08.20 11:28 Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As long as he was doing what the US wanted he was ok to be in
> > office.
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > he started doing what was in his best interest he became a bad
> > guy. I
> > > > > > > > believe he invade Kuwait because he was assured that the US
> > would not
> > > > > > > > interfere. the US has a history of putting and supporting
> > people in
> > > > > > > > power who do what the US wants until they stop doing what the
> US
> > wants
> > > > > > > > then they become the "Bad Guy". This is not the time to get
> > involved
> > > > > > > > with Saddam. Without world support we will be seen as being in
> > the
> > > > > > > > wrong (right now the US needs all the good will it can
> muster.)
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:21 AM
> > > > > > > > To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes
> &
> > > > > > > > Schanzer on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Saddam's Rap Sheet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > by Daniel Pipes and Jonathan Schanzer
> > > > > > > > New York Post
> > > > > > > > August 20, 2002
> > > > > > > > http://www.danielpipes.org/article/444
> > > > > > > > http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/55073.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Consider the paradox: Almost every government agrees that
> Iraqi
> > > > > > > > dictator Saddam Hussein is an appalling monster and shudders
> at
> > the
> > > > > > > > prospect of his acquiring nuclear weapons. Yet those same
> > governments
> > > > > > > > are also furiously signaling their disapproval of an
> > American-led
> > > > > > > > military effort to depose him.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That would be "risky adventurism," declares Germany's
> Chancellor
> > > > > > > > Gerhard Schroeder; Saddam poses no immediate threat, and
> > Washington
> > > > > > > > lacks a justification to attack him. Most U.S. allies
> worldwide
> > agree.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But they are plain wrong. Saddam is an immediate menace, and
> the
> > U.S.
> > > > > > > > government has cause to preempt him. Here's why:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Record. Saddam has a history of unrelenting aggression. He
> > invaded
> > > > > > > > Iran
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 1980. He conquered Kuwait in 1990. He assaulted Saudi Arabia
> and
> > > > > > > > Israel
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > missiles in 1991. He's shot at U.S. and British aircraft in
> the
> > > > > > > > "no-fly zone" since 1992. He attacked the Kurdish regional
> > enclave in
> > > > > > > > 1996.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He also has many links to terrorism. Iraq harbors Abdul Rahman
> > Yasin,
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the gang that bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. It also
> > hosted
> > > > > > > > the notorious Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal, just found dead
> > in
> > > > > > > > Baghdad. He encourages Hamas suicide bombers by paying $10,000
> > to
> > > > > > > > their families. His terrorists tried to assassinate former
> > President
> > > > > > > > George H.W. Bush and the emir of Kuwait. An Iraqi diplomat met
> > with al
> > > > > > > > Qaeda's Mohammad Atta before the Sept. 11 suicide mission.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Casus belli. Saddam has a history of violating international
> > law and
> > > > > > > > developing illegal weapons.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In February 1991, he signed an agreement accepting all U.N.
> > Security
> > > > > > > Council
> > > > > > > > resolutions passed after his invasion of Kuwait seven months
> > earlier.
> > > > > > > > He recognized Resolution 687, which demands Iraq's weapons of
> > mass
> > > > > > > destruction
> > > > > > > > (WMD) be "destroyed, removed or rendered harmless," and
> requires
> > > > > > > inspectors
> > > > > > > > be allowed into Iraq.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But Saddam then played "cat and mouse" with the inspectors by
> > > > > > > > withholding information, dissimulating and hiding materiel.
> > "Iraq
> > > > > > > > released detailed records of how many ballpoint pens it
> ordered
> > in the
> > > > > > > > late 1980s," noted a U.S. government report in 1998, but left
> > out
> > > > > > > > vital information about its"missile warheads capable of
> > delivering
> > > > > > > > biological and chemical agents."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nonetheless, over seven years, inspectors did destroy at least
> > 27,000
> > > > > > > > chemical bombs, artillery shells and rockets, 500 tons of
> > mustard and
> > > > > > > nerve
> > > > > > > > agents and thousands of tons of precursor chemicals. They
> > dissembled
> > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Iraq's nuclear program, which was further along than
> previously
> > > > > > > > thought - and which had continued in violation of Resolution
> > 687.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then, in August 1998, Saddam accurately read the Clinton
> > > > > > > > administration's mood and closed the door to further
> > inspections,
> > > > > > > > correctly figuring he
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > not have to pay a price for this unilateral abrogation of his
> > > > > > > > promises.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Dangers. Saddam has unquestionably used the past four years
> to
> > build
> > > > > > > WMD.
> > > > > > > > Adnan Saeed al-Haideri, an Iraqi civil engineer and a recent
> > defector,
> > > > > > > > informed the Defense Intelligence Agency that Saddam is
> building
> > > > > > > biological
> > > > > > > > and chemical weapons in eight locations throughout Iraq.
> Khidhir
> > > > > > > > Hamza, former chief nuclear scientist for Saddam's nuclear
> > weapons
> > > > > > > > development program and another Iraqi defector, estimates Iraq
> > now has
> > > > > > > > "12 tons of uranium and 1.3 tons of low-enriched uranium" and
> > asserts
> > > > > > > > that Saddam will have "three to five nuclear weapons by 2005."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Richard Butler, former chief U.N. weapons inspector, says it
> is
> > > > > > > > "foolish
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the extreme" to believe that Saddam is not hard at work on
> > long-range
> > > > > > > > missiles, and nuclear, chemical and biological weaponry. If
> > Saddam
> > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > his hands on nuclear weapons, he will exploit them fully. He
> is
> > the
> > > > > > > > only ruler in power already to have used WMD - having deployed
> > poison
> > > > > > > > gases against both Iranians and his own Kurdish population.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > President Bush is therefore right to state that the United
> > States must
> > > > > > > > "confront the worst threats before they emerge." With no other
> > means
> > > > > > > > to dismantle Saddam's arsenal and protect against future
> > aggression,
> > > > > > > > this leaves a military campaign as the only option - and the
> > sooner it
> > > > > > > > begins, the better for us all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> I
> > saw
> > > > > > > you...
> > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown
> > > > > > > > Brooklyn....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and
> Archives
> > > > > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or
> > stories and
> > > > > > > articles from around the net
> > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I
> > saw
> > > > > > > you... http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New
> > Downtown
> > > > > > > Brooklyn....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > > > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or
> stories
> > and
> > > > > > articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 -
> > Imagine
> > > > > > my surprise when I saw you...
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html
> > - See
> > > > > > the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________
> > > >
> > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > __________________________
> > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories
> and
> > > > articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 -
> > Imagine my
> > > > surprise when I saw you... http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html -
> See
> > the
> > > > New Downtown Brooklyn....
> > > >
> > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ____________________________
> > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > Fair Use -
> > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > >
> > --
> > __________________________
> >
> > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > __________________________
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> > articles from around the net
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw
> you...
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> >
> > 1-718-382-5752
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
> >
> --
> __________________________
>
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> __________________________
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> articles from around the net
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you...
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
>
> 1-718-382-5752
> ____________________________
> New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
--
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you...
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
1-718-382-5752
____________________________
New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
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