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| DATE | 2002-08-27 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Suggestions for classes
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:36:05 -0400
From: Ruben I Safir
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Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Suggestions for classes
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On 2002.08.27 13:07 msettro wrote:
> Ruben:
>
> I and many others spend alot of time evaluating the market.
> Asking questions like what's out there? How easy is it to use...
> How do I do this? Can I do that? easily? What do I have to
> hack together?
>
> Getting these questions answered is not easy because not every
> body has a hands on demo or presentation of the software they
> are producing... Sometimes I want to even look inside past demo
> phase and without going thru some form of an install.
>
This would be more ideal for classes and workshops.
I tried to set up workshops, but I've become very thin on time.
In the classes, we actually DO install and configure stuff
on the boxes people use for the class. For example, the
GNU/Linux 1 class starts with an empty machine and as one moves
through the program, we move through Apache, DNS, Firewalls,
routing, mail, everything.
For a specific product, like lately we've been working with
PHPGroupwre, a set of hacking boxes in a permanent space for
members to use for teaching, developement and experiementation,
and general community activities.
Right now that place is the NYLXS Head Quarters, which doubles
as my livingroom :)
The funding that comes through the FSI largely is being used
to aquire a permanent home in Downtown Brooklyn, or lower
Manhattan (that is LOWER MANAHTAN - like below Chambers Street)
as well as it's other acxtivities.
I think that for the Demo, we might setup a workshop, and this
is a good idea as well.
> I for one would perfer to have a place to go to try out a
> class of applications. Someplace that I could call ahead of
> schedule and say Hey "Can you get package 1,2,3 and 4 up and
> running so's I can try 'em out...". By the time I got there
> the packages would be already installed and someone would be
> there to help me out if I had questions...
This would clearly take up a permanent location. Your welcome
to use our current facities. Just email me, and your welcome.
We already often have 3 or 4 people here until early morn
working on things.
>
> This is what I used to love about lab at Queens College
> building Temp 1 (when it used to be the computer lab). They
> had all the stuff there ready to go...
At the cost of tutition and state funding.
I'm hoping that class members and NYLXS can eventually not only
access our sizable library but also our large pipe and Coputing
facilities.
> This kind of process is not about reading docs...reading requires
> comprehensible text...and comprehensible text requires time to
> format and create...and os developers are usually strapped for
> time and can't answer everything...
Our classes are all designed to be hands on for this reason
>
> Lots of applications have developer docs but not *user* docs...
> So I am suggesting a place that provides *users* with a leg up...
We are working on this as well..
>
> This is so unreasonable because it requires a dedicated
> space and scheduled attendants and such...But it solves my
> problem, getting hands and being allowed to evaluate quickly
> without doing alot of config work.
>
> - Monjay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ruben I Safir"
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:27 PM
> Subject: [nylug-talk] Suggestions for classes
>
>
> > One of the things NYLXS has tried to do is proivide education
> > for people at very affordable prices through the Free Software Institute.
> > We've created a decent program which we are looking to expand.
> >
> > I'm interested in knowing what people would like to learn, and see if I
> > can find a way to support the community by providing such classes.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > So far we have
> > GNU/Linux installs and setups
> > Unix usage and proficiency
> > Apache confiurations and Setup
> > Perl Programming and general programming
> > Desktop Productivitity and
> >
> > we hope to add C programming, Graphics, and
> > Blender.
> >
> > BTW - anyone who can donate teaching space should email me.
> >
> > Ruben
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