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| DATE | 2002-10-01 |
| FROM | Joe Grastara
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: DC 7/17: Advocates Meeting with DOC
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Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: DC 7/17: Advocates Meeting with DOC
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Cc: Ruben I Safir , rms-at-gnu.org, dpreed-at-reed.com,
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By the way stay tuned for the write-up for NYLXS's most recent trip to
D.C.
-Joe
On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 10:06 AM, Joe Grastara wrote:
>
> I can back Ruben up on his statement that they don't care about our
> point of view. I was sitting in Congressman Weiner's office when he
> told Ruben and I as much. This fight is not going to be won with a
> good debate. The interests lined up against us are simply to
> powerful. No amount of reasoning is going to outweigh the kind of
> money they throw around on Capital Hill. Ruben is right. Essentially
> we need to scare these guys into thinking that they won't be reelected
> if they push through legislation such as Berman's Bill.
>
> -Joe G.
> On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 05:16 AM, Ruben I Safir wrote:
>
>>
>> I tried to say that nicely but he got crossed up in the scable
>> between Jay,
>> Seth and myself.
>>
>> I'm not saying Dave is a bad guy.
>>
>>
>> I'm saying we need to focus on the developing political power. It's
>> a mistake to
>> think they are really interested in our point of view.
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>> On 2002.10.01 02:18 Richard Stallman wrote:
>>> Or is the goal to shut me up?
>>>
>>> He is criticizing the views that you stated a few weeks ago,
>>> and saying that your presenting them would not help our cause.
>>>
>>>
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