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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-02-11
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Re: status

Fresh Europe antitrust complaint aims at WinXP leveraging
By John Lettice
Posted: 11/02/2003 at 12:12 GMT

The Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA), a serial
Microsoft antagonist, has filed a fresh complaint with the European
Commission, claiming that Microsoft has perpetrated "new and widespread
violations of European competition law," and asking the Commission to
intervene to "restore competition to the markets that Microsoft now
dominates and to prevent future harm to these and other markets."

The complaint appears to be a conscious effort by the CCIA to move the
terms of the antitrust arguments on from the territory covered -
somewhat unsuccessfully, depending on your point of view - in US versus
Microsoft, and to a lesser extent in the current European Microsoft
investigation. The US action focused on specific historical areas where
Microsoft was eventually deemed to have acted anticompetitively. But by
the time this happened all the kings horses and all the kings men
couldn't put Netscape together again, and the case had very little to
say about monopolies new, using new mechanisms. At the request of the
States Judge CKK did consider a widening of the case, but then declined
it.

The European investigation is certainly a little more forward-looking in
that it covers Media Player and the danger of a Microsoft monopoly in
the European server market, but it's still narrow in the sense that it's
looking at specific areas.

Which is where the new complaint comes in: "Microsoft's abusive
behaviour designed into or accompanying Windows XP serves both to
protect its superdominant position for desktop operating systems and its
related superdominant positions for PPAs [new one on us - they mean
Office] and browsers, as well as to leverage those superdominant
positions into markets where it has not yet achieved such dominance."

Indeed. And the CCIA proceeds with a short list of examples - media
player software, email clients, instant messaging, server software,
authentication software, multimedia content management (inc DRM),
consumer portals and internet advertising, handheld device software,
smart phone software, and software for non PC devices, inc games
consoles and set-top boxes.

Microsoft can use its products, XP at the moment being the prime
example, to leverage itself into dominant positions in these markets,
and any other new market it happens to think of. So:

"The forms of Microsoft's abusive conduct are often closely
interrelated, and their market foreclosure effects in many instances
reinforce each other. The effectiveness of Microsoft's anti-competitive
behaviours in preserving Microsoft's existing desktop dominance and in
leveraging that dominance into related markets can only truly be
understood if these behaviours and their exclusionary impact are viewed
as a whole, rather than examined in isolation from each other."

This is a pretty obvious point, but its one the US legal system has not
been able to address; nor, indeed, has anybody made a serious attempt to
do so, and any such attempt would surely fail. The European system
however is considerably more flexible, and the Commission has a
considerable amount of latitude (or quasi-dictatorial powers, if you'd
prefer to put it like that) in the way it can handle such matters. So,
having bounced off on the other side of the pond, starting again in
Brussels seems a shrewd move for the CCIA. It stands a pretty good
chance of getting a hearing.

You can get access to a summary of the complaint and supporting
documentation here, where you may note with some horror (as did we) that
the CCIA now reckons the current European verdict, 'imminent' since
Methuselah was a lad, is now due this summer. And it might be right... ®

On 2003.02.11 10:20 Dave Williams wrote:
>
> I'm going to have to agree with David on this one.
>
> Bruce, I guess you tuned out of this thread after feeling attacked by
> Ruben.
>
> But if you were reading these messages in between cab rides around
> Holland, you may have noticed something.
>
> The question was "Why is Microsoft participating in this event?"
>
> Mr. Stanco, Esq., gave a nice soundbite about being in the middle of
two
> camps, and how good that was (he must be doing something right, or
> something like that).
>
> Dr. Stallman succinctly pointed out that the conference appeared to be
> primarily about advocacy for Open Source Software in government, but
the
> organizers have been hiding behind the explanation that this is an
> "academic" conference that requires fairness and balance whenever
> someone asks about Microsoft.
>
> Mr. Perens has avoided the question. He has defended Mr. Stanco and
> pointed out that Mr. Safir is an unpleasant person (a "poleaxe", I
> think).
>
> It appears that in exchange for a seat in Mr. Stanco's GWU Cyber
Policy
> group, Mr. Perens is willing to allow the Open Source movement to be a
> attached to Mr. Stanco's personal ambitions. If not Mr. Stanco's then
> somebody's ambitions at least.
>
> The conclusion is the same: If this is advocacy remove Microsoft. If
> this is academic change the title.
>
> I'm with David on this one: Mr. Peren's offer to have a "long Q&A"
seems
> kind of patronizing, along the lines of "Oops, you caught me! Look,
I'm
> getting a lot out of this Tony guy, so just play nice. Here's a bone
> for you, though."
>
> - Dave
>
> On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 09:57, David Sugar wrote:
> > Bruce,
> >
> > what you said is precisely the reason why I think it was wrong to
have them at
> > this event in the first place. What this has done is given them a
legitimate
> > forum to try and persuade a less than fully suffisticated audience
that
> > Shared Source is a form of Open Source, and that freedom does not
matter, for
> > this is the substance of their presentation. It was wrong to do
when their
> > abstract was accepted in the first place and it remains wrong to do
today.
> >
> > I tend to agree that one cannot easily revisit the original flawed
decision
> > without some fallout. One cannot fix the problem effectivily by
simply
> > extending their Q&A, which, of course, as they are now a
"legitimate" speaker
> > at this event, they are not obligated to accept, as that would be
special or
> > selective treatment of speakers, which also would be wrong to do.
> >
> > I have come to believe a terrible error has been made, and we can
choose to
> > have differening opinions of how this came about, but that does not
change
> > these facts. The question is what can be done to fix this problem,
and with
> > minimum negative impact. What I would suggest as a valid option is
that the
> > program committee exercises it's authority to eject an inappropriate
speaker
> > from the program. Would it have some negative impact at this stage?
Yes, it
> > would. But I think it would be both a responsible decision since I
believe
> > the original decision to accept their abstract was flawed, and
perhaps far
> > less damaging than some of the other options I have heard being
activily
> > considered.
> >
> > Another option that Richard suggested would be to change the nature
of this
> > conference and presentations appropriately. That the conference was

> > presented as essentially an opportunity to educate and market OS/FS
ideas to
> > governments is clear by the forum and style of presentations sought
in the
> > cfp. If this conference wishes instead to become some kind of
acedemic event
> > to discuss or debate software licensing, that is certainly fine, but
I think
> > it is far too late to do such a large change, nor fair to the other
speakers
> > who are appearing based on the former assumption.
> >
> > I am not offering any solutions in this message, but simply pointing
out the
> > flaws with your suggestion and past comments. Having such a
debate in
> > front of an audience that you have not yet fully educated and which
has
> > already likely been in many intense and closed vendor sponsored
conferences
> > promoting their message is counter-productive. All it does is send
a mixed
> > message and dilutes the already hard work of the other speakers
IMHO.
> >
> > On Tuesday 11 February 2003 06:01, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > > Well, I certainly have no problem with tacking on a _long_ Q&A
period onto
> > > this program. Is that what you want, and can you ask polite
questions that
> > > they will have trouble answering without it becoming a food fight?
If so,
> > > I will strongly advocate that to Tony and will find someone
mutually
> > > respectable to moderate. Note that MS will be _very_ well
rehearsed.
> > >
> > > I think it's extremely important that we be dignified in front of
the
> > > expected audience of this program.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Bruce
>
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  33. 2003-02-06 David Katz <omnimath-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations
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  35. 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SUSE Linux Office Desktop
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  50. 2003-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting
  51. 2003-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting
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  54. 2003-02-07 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  55. 2003-02-07 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  56. 2003-02-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] attbi AT&T
  57. 2003-02-08 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  58. 2003-02-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
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  63. 2003-02-08 CEO of Brooklyn <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  64. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  65. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  66. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  67. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  68. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  69. 2003-02-08 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  70. 2003-02-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] My comments on what was said...
  71. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  72. 2003-02-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  73. 2003-02-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  74. 2003-02-08 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  75. 2003-02-08 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Subject: [hangout] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S.
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  77. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  78. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  79. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  80. 2003-02-08 Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster-at-crackmonkey.org> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  81. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  82. 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  83. 2003-02-08 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  84. 2003-02-08 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  85. 2003-02-08 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  86. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  87. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  88. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  89. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  90. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  91. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  92. 2003-02-09 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Subject: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the
  93. 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] re: communication
  94. 2003-02-09 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting
  95. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  96. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  97. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  98. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting
  99. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  100. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  101. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  102. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Desktops
  103. 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local
  104. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  105. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where the heck is my distros
  106. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  107. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  108. 2003-02-09 Maxwell Spangler <maxwax-at-speakeasy.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  109. 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  110. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  111. 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  112. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  113. 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  114. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  115. 2003-02-09 From: "Seth J. Blank" <seth-at-rocketreview.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  116. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  117. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  118. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  119. 2003-02-09 Maxwell Spangler <maxwax-at-speakeasy.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  120. 2003-02-09 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Simplicity
  121. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: [hangout] Simplicity [jdave23-at-informationwave.net]
  122. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Simplicity
  123. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  124. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  125. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  126. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  127. 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] And yes, thank you
  128. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] frisk tonite?
  129. 2003-02-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  130. 2003-02-10 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  131. 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] questions about tony
  132. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Out of the Bag
  133. 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  134. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  135. 2003-02-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> RE: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  136. 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  137. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  138. 2003-02-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] that answes the question - thanks
  139. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  140. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  141. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  142. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  143. 2003-02-10 Andrew Newton <anewton-at-ecotroph.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  144. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  145. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  146. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  147. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  148. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  149. 2003-02-10 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  150. 2003-02-10 A1Environmental-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] September Journal post on slashdot
  151. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] September Journal post on slashdot
  152. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal Status
  153. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  154. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your message to novalug awaits moderator approval [novalug-admin-at-tux.org]
  155. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  156. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  157. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  158. 2003-02-10 Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster-at-crackmonkey.org> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  159. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Status
  160. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  161. 2003-02-10 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld Conference & Expo requests your feedback]
  162. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld Conference & Expo requests your feedback]
  163. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Status
  164. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  165. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] Status [jdave23-at-informationwave.net]
  166. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use status: Answer to thread on Newsforge
  167. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  168. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] attbi AT&T
  169. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  170. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] SUSE Linux Office Desktop
  171. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations
  172. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] AT&T is yanked from access
  173. 2003-02-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Status
  174. 2003-02-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Status
  175. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  176. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  177. 2003-02-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: status
  178. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: status
  179. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  180. 2003-02-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  181. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  182. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  183. 2003-02-11 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Accounting & linux
  184. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  185. 2003-02-11 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  186. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  187. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  188. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  189. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Out of the Bag
  190. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  191. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] egov-OS
  192. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  193. 2003-02-11 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  194. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  195. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  196. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  197. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  198. 2003-02-11 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn-at-ebb.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  199. 2003-02-12 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] a proposed solution
  200. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Stanco show his colors
  201. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stage Two
  202. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Library Book Missing
  203. 2003-02-12 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Stanco show his colors
  204. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS
  205. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  206. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  207. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  208. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  209. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  210. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS
  211. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  212. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS
  213. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Most Valuable Payers
  214. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Status
  215. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  216. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  217. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Status
  218. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Status
  219. 2003-02-12 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  220. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  221. 2003-02-12 A1Environmental-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Stage Two
  222. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  223. 2003-02-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Status
  224. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Stage Two
  225. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Stage Three
  226. 2003-02-12 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Status
  227. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Know your enemy
  228. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stage Three
  229. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  230. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  231. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  232. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: status
  233. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  234. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  235. 2003-02-13 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  236. 2003-02-13 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  237. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  238. 2003-02-13 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Quotes
  239. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  240. 2003-02-13 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  241. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  242. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  243. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  244. 2003-02-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] re: egov debate
  245. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  246. 2003-02-13 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  247. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  248. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  249. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  250. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  251. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  252. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  253. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday
  254. 2003-02-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  255. 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday
  256. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday
  257. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  258. 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  259. 2003-02-14 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  260. 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  261. 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  262. 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  263. 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  264. 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class]
  265. 2003-02-14 marco-at-metm.org Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  266. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  267. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  268. 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  269. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  270. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  271. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  272. 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  273. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  274. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  275. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  276. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  277. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  278. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  279. 2003-02-14 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  280. 2003-02-14 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  281. 2003-02-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  282. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  283. 2003-02-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  284. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  285. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  286. 2003-02-15 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  287. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  288. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  289. 2003-02-15 Derek Neighbors <derek-at-gnue.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  290. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  291. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  292. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  293. 2003-02-15 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  294. 2003-02-15 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  295. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  296. 2003-02-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  297. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  298. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  299. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] a proposed solution
  300. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Grant Writer
  301. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  302. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  303. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  304. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  305. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  306. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  307. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  308. 2003-02-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  309. 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] rules committee
  310. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  311. 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] rules committee
  312. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Customes for Washington
  313. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dinner Website is up
  314. 2003-02-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Young Man
  315. 2003-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thank God for proc
  316. 2003-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Noses, behavioral modification, and solving problems
  317. 2003-02-22 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Noses, behavioral modification, and solving problems
  318. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Resignation
  319. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Monday Board Meeting at R&M
  320. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee
  321. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  322. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  323. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dinner Videos
  324. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  325. 2003-02-22 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  326. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  327. 2003-02-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  328. 2003-02-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] hangout - Business week
  329. 2003-02-22 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Resignation
  330. 2003-02-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  331. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Volunteers needed
  332. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] More on the Networking Board Band isue
  333. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More on the Networking Board Band isue
  334. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 1500 Solders signed up for NY Fair Use Washington Action
  335. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  336. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  337. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Outgoing Executive Warns Microsoft Must Embrace Open Source
  338. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  339. 2003-02-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  340. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  341. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  342. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair USe Planning Meeting
  343. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Thank you the Tony Stanco's in the world [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  344. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thank you the Tony Stanco's in the world [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  345. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RMS for our RIS
  346. 2003-02-20 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  347. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] TV Spot:
  348. 2003-02-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] TV Spot:
  349. 2003-02-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Grant Writer
  350. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  351. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Jobs!
  352. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Job Offer
  353. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MINUTES
  354. 2003-02-20 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] Election Commitee
  355. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Joe Maffia - a letter please?
  356. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Resignation
  357. 2003-02-20 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Subject: [hangout] Resignation
  358. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC spawns new coperation
  359. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY City and State - Fair Use in City Software
  360. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Grant Writer
  361. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Starret City
  362. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Commitee
  363. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TV Spot:
  364. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Guest Speaker for the NYLXS Radio Show
  365. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal Professionalization
  366. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] EGOV-OS planns for NY Fair Use
  367. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EGOV-OS planns for NY Fair Use
  368. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  369. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  370. 2003-02-20 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  371. 2003-02-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl One - References
  372. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Kiwi VN: Safir: shipped / tracking
  373. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OETRENDS
  374. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  375. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  376. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  377. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  378. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  379. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  380. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  381. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  382. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  383. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  384. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  385. 2003-02-19 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  386. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  387. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  388. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  389. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  390. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  391. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  392. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  393. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Un Resolution
  394. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Un Resolution
  395. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  396. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  397. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] test
  398. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  399. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  400. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  401. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  402. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  403. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] New UN Resolution
  404. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  405. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] test
  406. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  407. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  408. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  409. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  410. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  411. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  412. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  413. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  414. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  415. 2003-02-19 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  416. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  417. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  418. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  419. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  420. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  421. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  422. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  423. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  424. 2003-02-19 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  425. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  426. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonight's Meeting
  427. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  428. 2003-02-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  429. 2003-02-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OETRENDS
  430. 2003-02-18 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Tonight's Meeting
  431. 2003-02-18 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse, and Jay's response
  432. 2003-02-18 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse, and Jay's response
  433. 2003-02-18 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  434. 2003-02-18 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  435. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  436. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  437. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting today
  438. 2003-02-18 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  439. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] tonite
  440. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  441. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  442. 2003-02-18 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  443. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  444. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  445. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: nylxs.org
  446. 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  447. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  448. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  449. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  450. 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  451. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.]
  452. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  453. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  454. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [root-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] NY Fair Use Announcements Archive]
  455. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [root-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] NY Fair Use Announcements Archive]
  456. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU]
  457. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU]
  458. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  459. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee
  460. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ok I get it
  461. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ok I get it
  462. 2003-02-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Ok I get it
  463. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meetings
  464. 2003-02-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Meetings
  465. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS General Meeting Changed
  466. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use meeting changed due to weather
  467. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  468. 2003-02-17 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  469. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  470. 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  471. 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  472. 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  473. 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  474. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today
  475. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments]
  476. 2003-02-17 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] NBR -- story on advertising revenue and the TIVO
  477. 2003-02-17 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  478. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  479. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] strange Net Behavior
  480. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  481. 2003-02-16 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  482. 2003-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  483. 2003-02-16 Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  484. 2003-02-16 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  485. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYFAIRUSE dispute
  486. 2003-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Evan
  487. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Egov-OS and NY Fair Use
  488. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  489. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] a proposed solution
  490. 2003-02-15 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  491. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] a proposed solution
  492. 2003-02-23 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Non-Profit
  493. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit
  494. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  495. 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  496. 2003-02-24 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  497. 2003-02-24 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Official name of NYLXS?
  498. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Official name of NYLXS?
  499. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  500. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Credit card transaction (and user system) setup needed for HTML::Mason site (telecommute), United States, NY, New York]
  501. 2003-02-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  502. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  503. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  504. 2003-02-24 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B
  505. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  506. 2003-02-24 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  507. 2003-02-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Plan B
  508. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B
  509. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B
  510. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  511. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ruben Relieved : Jay Reinstalled
  512. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting at Noon
  513. 2003-02-25 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  514. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  515. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  516. 2003-02-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  517. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  518. 2003-02-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  519. 2003-02-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Article
  520. 2003-02-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Embrace
  521. 2003-02-25 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  522. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [robin-at-ipjustice.org: Int'l Civil Liberties Group Demands Global Reform of Intellectual Property Laws]
  523. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ruben Relieved : Jay Reinstalled
  524. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 10 little things I always wanted to know
  525. 2003-02-26 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use
  526. 2003-02-26 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  527. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  528. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  529. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: openssl (SuSE-SA:2003:011)]
  530. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  531. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nominations
  532. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  533. 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] CD-R status update
  534. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  535. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  536. 2003-02-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair
  537. 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  538. 2003-02-27 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] treasury report
  539. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  540. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] treasury report
  541. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  542. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] On IRC #NYLXS
  543. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Info about NOIE and MS (fwd)
  544. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  545. 2003-02-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair
  546. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Info about NOIE and MS (fwd)
  547. 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  548. 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  549. 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  550. 2003-02-27 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  551. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  552. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  553. 2003-02-27 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] treasury report
  554. 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  555. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  556. 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] need some help
  557. 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] need some help
  558. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee
  559. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  560. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] CD-R status update
  561. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Board Members
  562. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Members List
  563. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Members
  564. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  565. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  566. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  567. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  568. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  569. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  570. 2003-02-26 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help
  571. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help
  572. 2003-02-26 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help
  573. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  574. 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  575. 2003-02-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] fstab help
  576. 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] fstab help
  577. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  578. 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  579. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM HEaring, call for witnesses
  580. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  581. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  582. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  583. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  584. 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC: Status of the Online Office
  585. 2003-02-28 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group
  586. 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jscoblick-at-nyc.rr.com: Costumes]
  587. 2003-02-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] things people want to know
  588. 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show?
  589. 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Speaking at "OpenWeekend" and GNU Alexandria to be announced
  590. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group
  591. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Upcoming NYLXS events this month
  592. 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  593. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Eben Moglen Essay
  594. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Eben Moglen Essay
  595. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  596. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS/NYFairUse/NYFU
  597. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  598. 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  599. 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  600. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  601. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  602. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  603. 2003-02-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  604. 2003-02-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] things people want to know
  605. 2003-02-22 Shoshana Safir <shani-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Post high school jobs or internships?

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