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| DATE | 2003-02-12 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Feb 12 04:32:27 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1C9WRso011158 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:32:27 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1C9WRwU011157 for hangout-desteny; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:32:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1C9WNso011146; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:32:23 -0500 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1C9WNVx011145; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:32:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:32:23 -0500 From: Ruben Safir To: fairuse-at-mrbrklyn.com Cc: Dave Williams , "Stanley A. Klein" , ruben-at-rm-cpa.com, jays-at-panix.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com, dyfet-at-ostel.com, derek-at-gnue.org, fairuse-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. Message-ID: <20030212093223.GA10990-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <3.0.5.16.20030210055912.4727622c-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209182438.44275b80-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209060640.39778df4-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209060640.39778df4-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209182438.44275b80-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030210055912.4727622c-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030211140705.4c67726c-at-cpcug.org> <1045009756.13243.8.camel-at-connie> <20030212010409.GW1700-at-ebb.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030212010409.GW1700-at-ebb.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ruben Safir List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 7945 Status: RO Content-Length: 1807 Lines: 54
This is not right. The results of LWE took money out of David Sugar's pocket and cost my membership money.
In addition, this IS an advocacy session.
The line has to be drawn and drawn hard. Action needs to be taken, not only agains the abuse in this session, but also for the next and the next.
People need to be put in a position of having to think three time before putting the livelyhood of FS deveopers in jeopardy.
Brad... how many children do you have to feed? David and I together make over 10.
Ruben
> > I agree that this vigilance is necessary and must happen. However, it is > my personal belief that showing up at an event, and being a respectful > participant, to speak about how our dedication to those principles and how > Matusow and others work against them is precisely the way to be vigilant. > > Stanco doesn't run advocacy events anymore. That's upsetting and > disheartening. But it's reality. Given that reality, we should use these > "both sides allowed" events he now does run to get our vigilance across to > as many people as we can. > > If someone gives you a pulpit to spread your beliefs, use it! > > -- bkuhn (speaking for himself, not his employer)
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