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| DATE | 2003-02-11 |
| FROM | From: "Bradley M. Kuhn"
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Feb 12 04:38:45 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1C9cjso011285 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:38:45 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1C9cjFi011284 for hangout-desteny; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:38:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1C9cjso011279 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:38:45 -0500 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1C9cj8r011278 for hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:38:45 -0500 Received: from monty-python.gnu.org (monty-python.gnu.org [199.232.76.173]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1C12Rso002291 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:02:28 -0500 Received: from bkuhn by monty-python.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ilK8-0000mm-00 for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:04:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:04:10 -0500 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" To: Dave Williams Cc: "Stanley A. Klein" , ruben-at-rm-cpa.com, jays-at-panix.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com, dyfet-at-ostel.com, derek-at-gnue.org, fairuse-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. Message-ID: <20030212010409.GW1700-at-ebb.org> References: <3.0.5.16.20030210055912.4727622c-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209182438.44275b80-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209060640.39778df4-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209060640.39778df4-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209182438.44275b80-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030210055912.4727622c-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030211140705.4c67726c-at-cpcug.org> <1045009756.13243.8.camel-at-connie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="glUAVOaDCVqE0op2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1045009756.13243.8.camel-at-connie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 7948 Status: RO Content-Length: 1571 Lines: 48
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Dave Williams wrote:
> Does the inclusion of Matusow blemish the conference? Yes, and you seem > to agree because you ask if it blemishes the conference "badly enough". > Part of the creation of the Free Software and Open Source movements is a > belief in principles which should not be compromised. Not even a teeny > tiny little bit. We must be ever vigilant in the defense of our > principles!
I agree that this vigilance is necessary and must happen. However, it is my personal belief that showing up at an event, and being a respectful participant, to speak about how our dedication to those principles and how Matusow and others work against them is precisely the way to be vigilant.
Stanco doesn't run advocacy events anymore. That's upsetting and disheartening. But it's reality. Given that reality, we should use these "both sides allowed" events he now does run to get our vigilance across to as many people as we can.
If someone gives you a pulpit to spread your beliefs, use it!
-- bkuhn (speaking for himself, not his employer)
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