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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-02-14
FROM Dave Williams
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
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Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
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On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 10:42, Stanley A. Klein wrote:
>
> My analysis of the situation is that anything beyond vigorous participation
> in the Q&A part of the debate would be counterproductive at some level.
> And, of course, a protest demonstration like I am describing would be
> seriously counterproductive, but that's what your rhetoric has already
> implied.
>
> I'm open to being convinced otherwise.
>
> Stan Klein

I fear that you have spent so much of your time arguing with Ruben that
you seem to have avoided the numerous other people exchanging their
views on the subject. Not all of them are as hard-charging as Mr.
Safir, so you may find their analysis more agreeable.

If you have been following any other threads on the subject, then it's
possible you may not wish to be convinced. In that case, research into
the history of both the Free Software and Open Source movements may be
helpful, as well as the corporate history of Microsoft and of software
and digital technology in general.

But if you would like to read another take on the subject, my
interpretation of the argument is as follows:

There is a conference being held specifically regarding Open Source
Software in Governments (American and European). It is sponsored by an
Institute of unclear political orientation, but it is attached to George
Washington University and includes Bruce Perens as a member (in some
research capacity). The conference organizer is a lawyer named Tony
Stanco, who some time ago decided that he liked this Free Software thing
and wanted to get involved.

Although the conference description and "call for papers" describes the
event as a combination of advocacy, OS presentations and showcases for
successful projects, the language is vague enough at times to allow for
liberal re-interpretation.

Not too long ago it was announced that Jason Matusow, Microsoft's
spokesman for their "Shared Source" program, will be presenting a speech
on his specialty. No Q&A will be held, necessarily, or any sort of
debate (although it may now be possible as a result of this pressure you
seem to dislike). Additionally, members of the "Software Choice" group
(which is specifically backed by Microsoft) will be discussing the need
to avoid mandating Open Source Software in governments.

Mr. Stanco claimed that his contacts in government asked him to invite
Microsoft. He has also stated that Microsoft wanted to be included in
the conference. He then said he met some nice people from Microsoft and
felt like it would be nice to invite them. Although the event appears
to be (at least in part) an advocacy event, he saw no conflict with
inviting people who are entirely opposed to Open Source Software.

How do we know this? Many people point out that "Shared Source" is a
dangerous and pale imitation of Open Source, designed to lull government
customers into complacency while confusing them about it's drawbacks.
Having failed to convince people that the GPL is dangerous, Microsoft is
approaching the problem from a subtle angle of confusion and
misdirection. This information is also widely available from numerous
sources, such as public documents and corporate speeches.

Many people, wishing to be enlightened, have no problem with this
infiltration of an Open Source event. In their over-confidence, they
think it will be easy to refute any Microsoft claim, and look forward to
doing so. They may not be getting the opportunity however, and even if
they do it is quite possible that the well-funded and hyper-competitive
(and convicted monopolist) Microsoft is more than prepared for anything
thrown at them. After all, it isn't always about making the best
product, as Bill G. told Steve J. back in the day. And the audience
will include people of some technical and legal sophistication, but
quite a few others who won't be able to make fine distinctions on the
subject.

Regardless of the need for caution, the very presence of these speakers
is a distraction that muddies the waters and confuses the unwary, all
the while gaining publicity for the company which needs it least. And
none of this addresses the fact that these presentations are simply
inappropriate for the occasion. As has been said by many people, if the
conference is about software in general then Microsoft is more than
welcome. If it was a debate then Microsoft should definitely be there.
But it is neither of those things, and quite a few events in the recent
past have been warped to serve purposes other than the original design
suggested.

The nature of the organizations behind this event aren't completely
clear -- are they advocates or academics using this event to increase
their public profile? Is it largely for the benefit of Mr. Stanco, who
stands to increase his visibility in our nation's most politically
motivated city? When someone starts to suspect this, it is not
completely out-of-line under the circumstances and any reassurance to
the contrary would be nice. Instead Mr. Stanco chose to confuse the
issue by attacking the people who raised these questions and hiding
behind concepts like "balance". He did not explain why he thought it
was a good idea to include them, but said that he was bowing to the
wishes of others. Not only does Microsoft hold meetings with government
officials on their own time all over the world, but they host a
"Government Leaders Conference" which includes speakers and seminars.
No representative of OSS has been invited to present at this gathering,
to my knowledge, but I understand that Mr. Gates has attacked the GPL at
least once on that particular podium.

This brings up an unpleasant reality: The Free Software and Open Source
movements are limited in their assets and influence, and it is very easy
for opportunists to use these movements for personal gain and damage
them in the process. Microsoft should not have been invited to the
conference in any form, unless they produce (not just re-sell) Open
Source Software. The decision to invite them shouldn't have been
unilateral -- after all, Mr. Perens disliked the unilateral
decision-making of Michael Robertson regarding the Desktop Linux
Summit. And in the end, win or lose, taking a higher perspective on
events suggests that Microsoft comes out ahead either way. The
conference will be counterproductive before it even begins, if you look
at it that way.

You are welcome, of course, to see a principled defense of one's
convictions as the "extreme" work of "kooks" and "loons", as Mr. Stanco
does. But there's plenty of stuff to chew on besides government
contracting rules and appearing high-minded in front of the opposition.

- Dave

____________________________
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  89. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  90. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  91. 2003-02-09 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting
  92. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting
  93. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  94. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  95. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  96. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  97. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  98. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  99. 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  100. 2003-02-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  101. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Simplicity
  102. 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local
  103. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  104. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  105. 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] And yes, thank you
  106. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] frisk tonite?
  107. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Desktops
  108. 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] re: communication
  109. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  110. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  111. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  112. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  113. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  114. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  115. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  116. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  117. 2003-02-09 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Subject: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the
  118. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  119. 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  120. 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  121. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  122. 2003-02-09 Maxwell Spangler <maxwax-at-speakeasy.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  123. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  124. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  125. 2003-02-09 From: "Seth J. Blank" <seth-at-rocketreview.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  126. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  127. 2003-02-09 Maxwell Spangler <maxwax-at-speakeasy.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  128. 2003-02-09 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Simplicity
  129. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where the heck is my distros
  130. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] Status [jdave23-at-informationwave.net]
  131. 2003-02-10 Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster-at-crackmonkey.org> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  132. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  133. 2003-02-10 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  134. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  135. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  136. 2003-02-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> RE: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  137. 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  138. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  139. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  140. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  141. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  142. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  143. 2003-02-10 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  144. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] September Journal post on slashdot
  145. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  146. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Status
  147. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  148. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld Conference & Expo requests your feedback]
  149. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your message to novalug awaits moderator approval [novalug-admin-at-tux.org]
  150. 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal Status
  151. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Out of the Bag
  152. 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] questions about tony
  153. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  154. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  155. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  156. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  157. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  158. 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  159. 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  160. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
  161. 2003-02-10 Andrew Newton <anewton-at-ecotroph.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  162. 2003-02-10 A1Environmental-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] September Journal post on slashdot
  163. 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Status
  164. 2003-02-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] that answes the question - thanks
  165. 2003-02-10 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld Conference & Expo requests your feedback]
  166. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] AT&T is yanked from access
  167. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] attbi AT&T
  168. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  169. 2003-02-11 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  170. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations
  171. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  172. 2003-02-11 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  173. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  174. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  175. 2003-02-11 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn-at-ebb.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  176. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  177. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  178. 2003-02-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  179. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  180. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  181. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status
  182. 2003-02-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Status
  183. 2003-02-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Status
  184. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  185. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status
  186. 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] SUSE Linux Office Desktop
  187. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
  188. 2003-02-11 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Accounting & linux
  189. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] egov-OS
  190. 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use status: Answer to thread on Newsforge
  191. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  192. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Out of the Bag
  193. 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  194. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  195. 2003-02-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: status
  196. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: status
  197. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  198. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  199. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  200. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  201. 2003-02-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Status
  202. 2003-02-12 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Status
  203. 2003-02-12 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  204. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  205. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  206. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  207. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  208. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  209. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  210. 2003-02-12 A1Environmental-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Stage Two
  211. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Stage Two
  212. 2003-02-12 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Stanco show his colors
  213. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Status
  214. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Status
  215. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Status
  216. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS
  217. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS
  218. 2003-02-12 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] a proposed solution
  219. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Most Valuable Payers
  220. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Library Book Missing
  221. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  222. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony
  223. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Stage Three
  224. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stage Two
  225. 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Stanco show his colors
  226. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS
  227. 2003-02-13 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  228. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  229. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  230. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  231. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  232. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  233. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  234. 2003-02-13 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  235. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  236. 2003-02-13 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  237. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  238. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  239. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  240. 2003-02-13 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that
  241. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stage Three
  242. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Know your enemy
  243. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  244. 2003-02-13 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Quotes
  245. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  246. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution
  247. 2003-02-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] re: egov debate
  248. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: status
  249. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  250. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  251. 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  252. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  253. 2003-02-14 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation
  254. 2003-02-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  255. 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  256. 2003-02-14 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  257. 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  258. 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  259. 2003-02-14 marco-at-metm.org Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  260. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  261. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  262. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  263. 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  264. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  265. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  266. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  267. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  268. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  269. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  270. 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class]
  271. 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday
  272. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday
  273. 2003-02-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  274. 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  275. 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  276. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  277. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday
  278. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  279. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  280. 2003-02-14 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  281. 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM
  282. 2003-02-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  283. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  284. 2003-02-15 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  285. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] a proposed solution
  286. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] a proposed solution
  287. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  288. 2003-02-15 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  289. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  290. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  291. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  292. 2003-02-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  293. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  294. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  295. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  296. 2003-02-15 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  297. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] a proposed solution
  298. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  299. 2003-02-15 Derek Neighbors <derek-at-gnue.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  300. 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  301. 2003-02-15 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  302. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  303. 2003-02-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  304. 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  305. 2003-02-16 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  306. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  307. 2003-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  308. 2003-02-16 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  309. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Egov-OS and NY Fair Use
  310. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYFAIRUSE dispute
  311. 2003-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Evan
  312. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  313. 2003-02-16 Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  314. 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] strange Net Behavior
  315. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  316. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  317. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  318. 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
  319. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  320. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meetings
  321. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ok I get it
  322. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ok I get it
  323. 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  324. 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution
  325. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  326. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  327. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  328. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  329. 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  330. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  331. 2003-02-17 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  332. 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  333. 2003-02-17 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday?
  334. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee
  335. 2003-02-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Meetings
  336. 2003-02-17 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] NBR -- story on advertising revenue and the TIVO
  337. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use meeting changed due to weather
  338. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS General Meeting Changed
  339. 2003-02-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Ok I get it
  340. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: nylxs.org
  341. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  342. 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  343. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today
  344. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments]
  345. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [root-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] NY Fair Use Announcements Archive]
  346. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [root-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] NY Fair Use Announcements Archive]
  347. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.]
  348. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU]
  349. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU]
  350. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  351. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  352. 2003-02-18 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  353. 2003-02-18 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  354. 2003-02-18 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  355. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  356. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  357. 2003-02-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  358. 2003-02-18 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse, and Jay's response
  359. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonight's Meeting
  360. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting today
  361. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  362. 2003-02-18 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  363. 2003-02-18 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse, and Jay's response
  364. 2003-02-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OETRENDS
  365. 2003-02-18 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Tonight's Meeting
  366. 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] tonite
  367. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  368. 2003-02-19 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  369. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  370. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  371. 2003-02-19 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  372. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  373. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  374. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  375. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  376. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  377. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  378. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  379. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  380. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  381. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  382. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  383. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  384. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  385. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  386. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OETRENDS
  387. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  388. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  389. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  390. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  391. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  392. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  393. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  394. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  395. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  396. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  397. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  398. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  399. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  400. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  401. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  402. 2003-02-19 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  403. 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  404. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  405. 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  406. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  407. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  408. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  409. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Un Resolution
  410. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Un Resolution
  411. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
  412. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Kiwi VN: Safir: shipped / tracking
  413. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] New UN Resolution
  414. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse
  415. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  416. 2003-02-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl One - References
  417. 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  418. 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
  419. 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute
  420. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] test
  421. 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] test
  422. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] EGOV-OS planns for NY Fair Use
  423. 2003-02-20 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] Election Commitee
  424. 2003-02-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Grant Writer
  425. 2003-02-20 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  426. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  427. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  428. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  429. 2003-02-20 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  430. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Resignation
  431. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] TV Spot:
  432. 2003-02-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] TV Spot:
  433. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EGOV-OS planns for NY Fair Use
  434. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Commitee
  435. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC spawns new coperation
  436. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Grant Writer
  437. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Guest Speaker for the NYLXS Radio Show
  438. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Joe Maffia - a letter please?
  439. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MINUTES
  440. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Jobs!
  441. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY City and State - Fair Use in City Software
  442. 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Job Offer
  443. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal Professionalization
  444. 2003-02-20 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Subject: [hangout] Resignation
  445. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Starret City
  446. 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TV Spot:
  447. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  448. 2003-02-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  449. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class
  450. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  451. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RMS for our RIS
  452. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Thank you the Tony Stanco's in the world [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  453. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 1500 Solders signed up for NY Fair Use Washington Action
  454. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  455. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More on the Networking Board Band isue
  456. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Volunteers needed
  457. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair USe Planning Meeting
  458. 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  459. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] More on the Networking Board Band isue
  460. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Outgoing Executive Warns Microsoft Must Embrace Open Source
  461. 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thank you the Tony Stanco's in the world [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  462. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  463. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  464. 2003-02-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation
  465. 2003-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Noses, behavioral modification, and solving problems
  466. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  467. 2003-02-22 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  468. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  469. 2003-02-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal
  470. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Resignation
  471. 2003-02-22 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Resignation
  472. 2003-02-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Young Man
  473. 2003-02-22 Shoshana Safir <shani-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Post high school jobs or internships?
  474. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dinner Videos
  475. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee
  476. 2003-02-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] hangout - Business week
  477. 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Monday Board Meeting at R&M
  478. 2003-02-22 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Noses, behavioral modification, and solving problems
  479. 2003-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thank God for proc
  480. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
  481. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Grant Writer
  482. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit
  483. 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  484. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  485. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
  486. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  487. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  488. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  489. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  490. 2003-02-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  491. 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] rules committee
  492. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee
  493. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Customes for Washington
  494. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dinner Website is up
  495. 2003-02-23 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Non-Profit
  496. 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] rules committee
  497. 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  498. 2003-02-24 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  499. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  500. 2003-02-24 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books
  501. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Official name of NYLXS?
  502. 2003-02-24 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B
  503. 2003-02-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Plan B
  504. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B
  505. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B
  506. 2003-02-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  507. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  508. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  509. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  510. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com
  511. 2003-02-24 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Official name of NYLXS?
  512. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ruben Relieved : Jay Reinstalled
  513. 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Credit card transaction (and user system) setup needed for HTML::Mason site (telecommute), United States, NY, New York]
  514. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  515. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  516. 2003-02-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  517. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  518. 2003-02-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  519. 2003-02-25 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  520. 2003-02-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Article
  521. 2003-02-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Embrace
  522. 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting at Noon
  523. 2003-02-25 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record)
  524. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  525. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  526. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  527. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  528. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  529. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  530. 2003-02-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] fstab help
  531. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  532. 2003-02-26 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  533. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  534. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  535. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  536. 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  537. 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ruben Relieved : Jay Reinstalled
  538. 2003-02-26 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help
  539. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help
  540. 2003-02-26 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help
  541. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 10 little things I always wanted to know
  542. 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use
  543. 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] fstab help
  544. 2003-02-26 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use
  545. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: openssl (SuSE-SA:2003:011)]
  546. 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [robin-at-ipjustice.org: Int'l Civil Liberties Group Demands Global Reform of Intellectual Property Laws]
  547. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Board Members
  548. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Eben Moglen Essay
  549. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  550. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  551. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Election Committee
  552. 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  553. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  554. 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  555. 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fellowships
  556. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  557. 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  558. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  559. 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  560. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help
  561. 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] need some help
  562. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  563. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  564. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Nominations
  565. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Info about NOIE and MS (fwd)
  566. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Info about NOIE and MS (fwd)
  567. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation
  568. 2003-02-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair
  569. 2003-02-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair
  570. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  571. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  572. 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  573. 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  574. 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  575. 2003-02-27 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  576. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  577. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  578. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
  579. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] treasury report
  580. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Members
  581. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] CD-R status update
  582. 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Eben Moglen Essay
  583. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee
  584. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Members List
  585. 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] need some help
  586. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nominations
  587. 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS/NYFairUse/NYFU
  588. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] On IRC #NYLXS
  589. 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] CD-R status update
  590. 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Speaking at "OpenWeekend" and GNU Alexandria to be announced
  591. 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group
  592. 2003-02-27 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] treasury report
  593. 2003-02-27 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] treasury report
  594. 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Upcoming NYLXS events this month
  595. 2003-02-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] things people want to know
  596. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM HEaring, call for witnesses
  597. 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC: Status of the Online Office
  598. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  599. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  600. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  601. 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week
  602. 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show?
  603. 2003-02-28 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group
  604. 2003-02-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] things people want to know
  605. 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jscoblick-at-nyc.rr.com: Costumes]

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