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| DATE | 2003-02-15 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Sat Feb 15 14:40:43 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1FJeh3T022713 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:40:43 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1FJehZt022712 for hangout-desteny; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:40:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h1FJea3T022697; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:40:36 -0500 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1FJeaq9022696; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:40:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:40:36 -0500 From: Ruben Safir To: Richard Stallman Cc: Ruben Safir , fairuse-at-mrbrklyn.com, sklein-at-cpcug.org, ruben-at-rm-cpa.com, jays-at-panix.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com, bkuhn-at-gnu.org, dyfet-at-ostel.com, derek-at-gnue.org, fairuse-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. Message-ID: <20030215194036.GA22513-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <3.0.5.16.20030209060640.39778df4-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209060640.39778df4-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030209182438.44275b80-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030210055912.4727622c-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030212082135.336f7eb4-at-cpcug.org> <3.0.5.16.20030213061542.451f8306-at-cpcug.org> <20030214120558.GC27604-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ruben Safir List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 8211 Status: RO Content-Length: 2307 Lines: 58
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:11:17PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > I would argue that a sound economic foundation for Free Software > is the most important thing to society at this junction. > > Arrangements that lead to more funding for free software development > would be good, of course, all else being equal.
It' not just funding of Free Software development, it's a fund of the users, administrators, and the marketers of Free Software.
> But I am not > convinced that free software needs any specific thing that one would > call an economic foundation, because I don't think that the greatest > limiting factor today for the further development of free software is > a matter of funding.
There has to be a foundation of economic development because otherwise people can't eat. Eating is good. Not eating is very bad.
> The greatest limiting factor as I see it is > obstruction from outsiders, which takes forms such as secret hardware > interfaces, software patents, the DMCA, and treacherous computing. >
This very real threat will not be managable until more people have an economic stake in the software. The strictly political issues are too abstract for a world in which everyone is struggling day to day to remain housed and clothed.
Not everyone has your celebraty and can ignor the economic impact of their decision making. People need to eat. And as free people, they will make decisions based on bread basket issues every time. You can not seperate economics from politicals. The two things are the same, different faces of the same coin.
The DMCA dies the minute it obstructs the economy of an important and large segement of individuals with a vote.
Ruben
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