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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph A. Maffia
[mailto:jam-at-rm-cpa.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:40
PM
To: Ruben Safir; rms-at-gnu.org;
hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout]
NYLXS.org

I received phone messages from Jay and Brett
today. Saddam Jay asked for more time to turnover his weapons of mass
destruction. Several persons who he attends to attend this discussion will not
be available for a monday meeting.


-At 04:22 PM 02/19/2003 -0500,
Ruben Safir wrote:

We can draft it on the list if
possible.
We should schedule for it for Sunday perhaps?

If they
want to, Brett and Jay can come and complain to the board
about me and so
forth then, and then trade the NYLXS.org domain for the
rights of the NY
Fair Use brand.

I doubt this will satisfy marco, but I think it gives
them the oppurtunity
for a fair hearing and to air their grievences
properly without it becoming
a circus.

Joe, can I get the minutes
from last night up?

Ruben

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:25:52PM
-0500, Joe Grastara wrote:
> I agree with Evan, an agenda needs to be
drafted and possibly agreed 
> upon by all parties before going
into the meeting.
>
> -Joe Grastara
>
> On
Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:12 PM, Inker, Evan wrote:
>

> >
> >Ahh,
> >
> >One last condition:
An agenda for this meeting needs to be drafted as 
> >I
do
> >not want several different parties going off in multiple
convoluted 
> >areas
> >not related to this matter.
If we keep it simple, to the point, and
> >organized, we can
maintain a sense of order.
> >
> >Regards,
>
>
> >Evan M. Inker  (New York)  x. 4615
>
>
> >
> >
> >-----Original
Message-----
> >From: Inker, Evan [ eudora="autourl">mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday,
February 19, 2003 12:02 PM
> >To: 'Ruben Safir'; Joe
Grastara
> >Cc: Marco Scoffier; hangout
> >Subject: RE:
[hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
> >
>
>
> >
> >Due to the gravity and importance of this
situation, I would strongly
> >suggest that this proposed meeting
be a Board Meeting and in agreement 
> >with
> >Joe
Gastara, this meeting should be held in a private setting. The only
>
>other condition I would like imposed is that all a final conclusion
to 
> >this
> >matter be resolved once and for all.
This has gone on way too long....
> >
> >
>
>Regards,
> >
> >Evan M. Inker  (New York) 
x. 4615
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original
Message-----
> >From: Ruben Safir [ href="mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com"
eudora="autourl">mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday,
February 19, 2003 11:45 AM
> >To: Joe Grastara
> >Cc:
Marco Scoffier; Ruben Safir; hangout
> >Subject: Re: [hangout]
Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
> >
>
>
> >
> >I'm not opposed to a board meeting with their
apearance.
> >
> >I'm opposed to it in a public place, and
I'm oppsoed to it being a
> >'presentation' and I'm opposed to it
not being linked to the 
> >negotiation of
> >the
trade of the NY Fair Use brand from NYLXS to Jay and Brett for the 

> >.org
> >domain.
> >
> >
>
>There is no indication from Jay or Marco that the meeting that is
being
> >proposed is for any other purpose other than a indictment
of NYLXS, 
> >and me
> >personally.
>
>
> >This I'm not interested in.  There has been no
suggfestion that they 
> >are
> >willing to transfer
the domain.  This is just the repeated request by 
>
>Jay
> >that 'both side of the story' needs to be heard when
they've had 
> >multiple
> >opportunities to do
this.
> >
> >It's either a meeting to get the Domain
exchanged for the NY Fair Use 
> >brand
> >or
not.
> >
> >Marco can respond to what they are willing to
agree to or not.  But I'm
> >willing to bet a lot that they
are not willing to actually put the 
> >matter to
>
>binding arbitration of to negotiate the exchange.
> >
>
>and Sunday is the last day I'm holding out that offer.  So they
should 
> >move
> >faster. I want this settled
before the election.
> >
> >Ruben
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at
11:33:38AM -0500, Joe Grastara wrote:
> >>
>
>>Ruben,
> >>
> >>We need to have a meeting
with Jay and Brett.  If you don't want to
> >>call it an
official Board Meeting, I think that's an acceptable and
>
>>appropriate measure, given that they have been banned from
the
> >>organization.
> >>
> >>I do
agree with you though that the stated purpose from our point of
>
>>view of the meeting from the start needs to be the transfer of
the
> >>NYLXS.org domain from Brett to NYLXS.  However we
should, as a show of
> >>good faith, despite any personal issues
any of us may have with them,
> >>give them an opportunity to
voice any legitimate issues they may have
> >>with NYLXS as an
organization.
> >>
> >>Additionally I suggest that
we transfer the meeting from the Killarney
> >>Rose to a
location that has internet connectivity so that we may
>
>>complete the transfer of the domain right at the meeting.
>
>>
> >>Once again though, the deal you are offering,
Ruben, is one that Jay
> >>and Brett will likely find to be fair
and thus will result in the
> >>resolution of this matter. 
We should not thwart this process any
> >>further by petty
bickering over the logistics of the meeting.
> >>
>
>>-Joe Grastara
> >>
> >>On Wednesday,
February 19, 2003, at 11:15 AM, Marco Scoffier wrote:
>
>>
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at
10:44:33AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>>No
>
>>>>
> >>>>There will only be a meeting for
them to hand over NYLXS.org
> >>>>
>
>>>>There banded at this point.
> >>>>
>
>>>>Ruben
> >>>>
>
>>>>
> >>>
> >>>Can you deny the
board such a meeting?
> >>>
> >>>As far as I
can tell Evan Inker, Vin, Joe Grastara and myself are in
>
>>>favor of such a meeting.  I am happy that finally there are
some
> >>>other voices on this.
> >>>
>
>>>Of course we would need a moderator and an assurance on both
sides to
> >>>accept the results of such a meeting.
>
>>>
> >>>I cannot understand how hushing the other
side can possibly bring
> >>>about a resolution.
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>--Marco
>
>>>
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