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|SUBJECT ||Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:01:06 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
Cc: dwheeler-at-dwheeler.com, ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com, dev-at-marketing.openoffice.org, russell-at-flora.ca, hangout-at-nylxs.com, fairuse-at-nylxs.com
Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
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This is yet another issue.
It's time to give Richard is dues and stop lumping every hatch brained
open source idea into the warm and fuzzy 'Open Source' lable.
It's Free Software. If it's Open Source, it's a different thing. And
if both are being discussed, it's unethical to not include them BOTH
in the titles and discussions.
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 03:37:10PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
> The conference will give ample opportunity for the
> Free Software Movement and the Open Software Movement to
> clearly state that they are competitors to Microsoft's current
> This conference won't give the Free Software Movement much of an
> opportunity to state anything, because the conference refuses to
> recognize our existence. It treats us as part of the other movement.
> When Tony asked me to speak at his conference last October, I said I
> would do so if he made it a "free software and open source"
> conference. He refused--apparently the Free Software Movement's
> leaders were welcome to appear as part of the Open Source Movement,
> but our movement's existence had to be denied. I declined to go.
> The free software movement was not welcome at the conference; its
> leaders were invited, yes, but invited to appear as supporters of the
> open source movement. It seems that Microsoft is more welcome at this
> conference than the free software movement is.
> I wish the Open Source Movement success, all else being equal, even
> though I do not support it. But what this conference is doing is
> trying to quash us, and that is bad.
> To stop the messages from coming see http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/appl/fairuse/gone.html
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