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DATE 2003-07-05
FROM From: "Ray C."
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Software licenses don't work

http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/idgnet.asp?id=4635

Tim O'Reilly: Software licenses don't work

2003-07-04 01:18
SAN FRANCISCO - IDG News Service\San Francisco Bureau - Robert McMillan

PeopleSoft Inc. may be spending its nights tossing and turning about a hostile
takeover by Oracle Corp, but maybe Oracle should be the one losing sleep. At
least that's what O'Reilly & Associates Inc. Chief Executive Officer Tim
O'Reilly believes.

EBay Inc. will someday buy Oracle, open source licenses don't work, and the
software market is about to change forever. These are three of the
predictions that O'Reilly, a well-known publisher of technical books and an
open source advocate, had to offer in an interview conducted the week before
his company's annual Open Source Convention. The conference, which attracts a
who's who of the open source community, will be held in Portland, Oregon,
next week.

IDGNS: You're keynoting at the Open Source Convention next week. What will you
be talking about?

Tim O'Reilly: I think there's a paradigm shift going on right now, and it's
really around both open source and the Internet, and it's not entirely clear
which one is the driver and which one is the passenger, but at least they are
fellow travellers.

Let me give you an example of what I would consider a paradigm failure that
happens all the time in the open source community. The critic of open source
says, "Open source is just not very good at building easy-to-use software."
And the open source defender says, "Oh, you haven't seen the latest version
of Gnome (GNU Object Model Environment). It's really getting pretty good."

Nobody is pointing out something that I think is way more significant: all of
the killer apps of the Internet era: Amazon (.com, Inc), Google (Inc.), and
Maps.yahoo.com. They run on Linux or FreeBSD, but they're not apps in the way
that people have traditionally thought of applications, so they just don't
get considered. Amazon is built with Perl on top of Linux. It's basically a
bunch of open source hackers, but they're working for a company that's as
fiercely proprietary as any proprietary software company.

What's wrong with this picture? Well, one thing is that one of the fundamental
premises of open source is that the licenses are all conditioned on the act
of software distribution, and once you're no longer distributing an
application, none of the licenses mean squat.

I would go further than the fact that the licenses don't work. I would also
point out that these applications are fundamentally different in that their
interfaces are composed much more of data than they are of just software. My
basic premise is, "Let's stop thinking about licenses for a little bit. Let's
stop thinking that that's the core of what matters about open source. And
that's not to say that they're completely unimportant, it's just that they
can blind (us) to other things that are perhaps more important.

IDGNS: Like what?

O'Reilly: The commoditization of software. Open source is a contributor to the
commoditization of software, but it's not the only contributor. Open
standards lead to commoditization. The Web browser is proprietary, but it's a
commodity.

Basically, we're really seeing the development of something that's analogous
to hardware with the IBM (Corp.) PC. If you look at what happened to the
hardware business, there was a transitional period where everybody tried to
play by the old rules. It wasn't until Dell (Computer Corp.) figured out
that, no, the rules really are different, and the business levers are
different, that we saw somebody figure out how to really leverage commodity
hardware.

Ian Murdock, the guy who started Debian, and now runs a company called Progeny
(Linux Systems Inc.) is right on track with this. Instead of seeing Linux as
a product, he sees Linux as a set of commodity software components he can put
together for different purposes.

IDGNS: Isn't that how IBM sees Linux?

O'Reilly: Absolutely, but I would say that IBM's current strategy with open
source is very close to the Compaq (Computer Corp.) strategy in the early
days of the PC. There were a whole bunch of vendors who took this commodity
thing and tried to tweak it and improve it and add value in some way, and
differentiate themselves that way. And so (with) WebSphere, for example, (IBM
says) "OK, we'll put together a bunch of open source components with a bunch
of proprietary components and we'll bundle it up in some way that everybody
will say, "OK, I guess I've got to pay for it." That's a lot like Compaq's
strategy.

Somebody will come along eventually and put together the complete open source
stack. If you look at the history of the PC, the Compaq strategy didn't fail.
It's just that the Dell strategy was marginally better. The whole essence of
the Dell approach was build to order, and I think we're going to see the
emergence of that business model for Linux.

IDGNS: Is the open source software stack mature enough for there to be an open
source Dell?

O'Reilly: Probably not yet. There's this great quote from (optical character
recognition and speech technology pioneer) Ray Kurzweil. He said, "I'm an
inventor, and I started looking at long-term trends because an invention has
to make sense in the world in which it was finished, not the world in which
it started." A lot of people are doing plans for the world that's rapidly
ending, and you have to do your business plan for the world that's coming.

No, it's not mature enough yet, but that's why there's opportunity there.

IDGNS: Where else do you see opportunities created by these changes?

O'Reilly: The value will be driven up the stack to data. For this I go back to
my Amazon and Google examples. Google may have less of a lock. They probably
have more of a traditional software lock in that they're just better at what
they do. But there's not much difference between Barnesandnoble.com (LLC) and
Amazon.com in the software they have. What are different are the customers
they have, and the amount of customer contribution to their data.

With eBay it's even clearer. The fact is, it's the critical mass of
marketplace buyers and sellers and all the information that people have put
in that marketplace as a repository.

So I think we're going to find more and more places where that happens, where
somebody gets a critical mass of customers and data and that becomes their
source of value. On that basis, I will predict that -- this is an outrageous
prediction -- but eBay will buy Oracle someday. The value will have moved so
much to people who are not now seen as software suppliers.

Amazon is the furthest along this path, in a lot of ways. Amazon really
understands that they are becoming a platform. They are becoming the
e-commerce engine of an awful lot more of the Internet than people realize.
It's not just a site, but they're running e-commerce for other people,
they've built Web services, so people are building applications that (Amazon
doesn't) control that use some of their back-end services. They're really
moving down that path, and I think other people like that will emerge, and
we'll suddenly go, "Oh my God, how did they become such important players?"
It will be just the way that IBM thought that Microsoft was not really a
competitor until one day they went, "Oh my God, these guys are in the
driver's seat."
--
At times the discrepency between institutions and technology becomes an
incompatibility, and then one or the other must give way.
-Allen Wheelis

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  100. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  101. 2003-07-20 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  102. 2003-07-20 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  103. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Suggestions for a Linux admin book...
  104. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: camara
  105. 2003-07-18 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] 2 questions
  106. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: camara
  107. 2003-07-18 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] CMYK plugin for The GIMP
  108. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Topic for technite.
  109. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: camara
  110. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thanks Everyone for help tonight
  111. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  112. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: #350: D Pipes v. M Khan on "Islam and Democracy" [dplist-at-danielpipes.org]
  113. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  114. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  115. 2003-07-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  116. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  117. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Installment of Handbook
  118. 2003-07-17 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] 2 questions
  119. 2003-07-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] We need a 501c3
  120. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  121. 2003-07-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  122. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  123. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Education committee
  124. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] hp's d220 w/ Linux
  125. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  126. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  127. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  128. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  129. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  130. 2003-07-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: NYLXS inventoryFW: FW: Need Updated Status on NYLXS ....
  131. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl, Pattern Matching and Delete
  132. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  133. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  134. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  135. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  136. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  137. 2003-07-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  138. 2003-07-17 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  139. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  140. 2003-07-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  141. 2003-07-17 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Perl, Pattern Matching and Delete
  142. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Rep
  143. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Rep
  144. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo ok
  145. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYACSH/NY Fair Use Meeting
  146. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  147. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  148. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  149. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  150. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  151. 2003-07-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  152. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting moved :)
  153. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  154. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] P. Robert
  155. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  156. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  157. 2003-07-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  158. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  159. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo ok
  160. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbook
  161. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo
  162. 2003-07-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  163. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbook
  164. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  165. 2003-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mind Games
  166. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  167. 2003-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  168. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  169. 2003-07-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  170. 2003-07-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch /
  171. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  172. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  173. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  174. 2003-07-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch /
  175. 2003-07-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  176. 2003-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] yay!
  177. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  178. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weasles
  179. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  180. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Rob from the Education Committee
  181. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention New Board Members
  182. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  183. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Speaking of computers...
  184. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  185. 2003-07-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  186. 2003-07-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Math.h
  187. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Math.h
  188. 2003-07-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Linux on the desktop
  189. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Speaking of computers...
  190. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  191. 2003-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] busride
  192. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  193. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bus Ride
  194. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  195. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wal-Mart Adds SuSE-Based PCs As Linux Offerings Grow
  196. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  197. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Security Announcement: nfs-utils (SuSE-SA:2003:031)
  198. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  199. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart Adds SuSE-Based PCs As Linux Offerings Grow
  200. 2003-07-14 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Intro video
  201. 2003-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: education committe
  202. 2003-07-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Bus Ride
  203. 2003-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Weasle
  204. 2003-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  205. 2003-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  206. 2003-07-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  207. 2003-07-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  208. 2003-07-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  209. 2003-07-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  210. 2003-07-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  211. 2003-07-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weasles
  212. 2003-07-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  213. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Sunday technite
  214. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Speakign of Committees
  215. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: for the record
  216. 2003-07-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: for the record
  217. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: fallback
  218. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for the record
  219. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fallback
  220. 2003-07-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for the record
  221. 2003-07-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  222. 2003-07-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Previous Minutes for Reference
  223. 2003-07-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Old Minutes which need to be reviewed on Bans etc
  224. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Minutes - July Meeting
  225. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] is Bill Putney out there?
  226. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] June Board Meeting Report
  227. 2003-07-10 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  228. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  229. 2003-07-10 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  230. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  231. 2003-07-10 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  232. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  233. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  234. 2003-07-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  235. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Two different meetings today...
  236. 2003-07-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Today
  237. 2003-07-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] is Bill Putney out there?
  238. 2003-07-10 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  239. 2003-07-10 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] MSLinux release
  240. 2003-07-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  241. 2003-07-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice
  242. 2003-07-09 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  243. 2003-07-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD Gets Harder to Crack - OpenBSD 3.3
  244. 2003-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenBSD Gets Harder to Crack - OpenBSD 3.3
  245. 2003-07-09 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] Mandrake 9.1 --> 100% Free Software distro
  246. 2003-07-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] inservice idea
  247. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  248. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] running stuff
  249. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] inservice idea
  250. 2003-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  251. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  252. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  253. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  254. 2003-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  255. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  256. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  257. 2003-07-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Gnubies this Wednesday July 9th, Sam Hiser on OpenOffice.org
  258. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Membership Handbook - 1st Drafts
  259. 2003-07-07 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  260. 2003-07-07 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  261. 2003-07-07 Michael L Richardson <michael.l.richardson-at-verizon.net> Re: [nylxs-announce] Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  262. 2003-07-07 Bill Putney <bputney-at-the-bomb.com> Re: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  263. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PXE and tftp
  264. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SUSe Remote install
  265. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  266. 2003-07-07 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  267. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  268. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  269. 2003-07-07 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-monmouth.com> Subject: [hangout] Emergency Meeting
  270. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  271. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  272. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux creator an open source Torvalds on SCO suit, Microsoft and his
  273. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite - Continues on ....
  274. 2003-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  275. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  276. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Server Migration
  277. 2003-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  278. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  279. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last
  280. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] today's meeting proceeds as usual?
  281. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GRR's Laws of IT/Computers.
  282. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  283. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  284. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  285. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  286. 2003-07-05 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  287. 2003-07-05 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Software licenses don't work
  288. 2003-07-04 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Toshiba petition
  289. 2003-07-04 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Independance Day
  290. 2003-07-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Tech Nite - Sunday Evening
  291. 2003-07-04 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 4th of July
  292. 2003-07-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  293. 2003-07-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy 4th of July to All!
  294. 2003-07-03 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  295. 2003-07-03 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  296. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  297. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  298. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  299. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  300. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  301. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  302. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  303. 2003-07-02 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  304. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse
  305. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  306. 2003-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hackathon July 06, 2003 "Let the Games Begin..."
  307. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] linux journal
  308. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  309. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  310. 2003-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open source trade clash
  311. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  312. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  313. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  314. 2003-07-02 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  315. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  316. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] sys admin journal
  317. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Suse
  318. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] MS 'owns' the Web?] (fwd)
  319. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  320. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  321. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the group
  322. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  323. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  324. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  325. 2003-07-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  326. 2003-07-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  327. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] the group
  328. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Domain transfers
  329. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  330. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  331. 2003-07-01 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  332. 2003-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re
  333. 2003-07-01 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from
  334. 2003-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from RedHat.
  335. 2003-07-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  336. 2003-07-31 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  337. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Revolution OS Movie
  338. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  339. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  340. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Tech Night Idea's
  341. 2003-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Judge orders Interior to shut off Internet connections
  342. 2003-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Rogue Linux Installs on the Rise
  343. 2003-07-30 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  344. 2003-07-29 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Revolution OS Movie
  345. 2003-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Resignation - NYLXS Board & 1st Vice President
  346. 2003-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Are your receiving this?
  347. 2003-07-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  348. 2003-07-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Small Business Dilemma: Open Source or Proprietary Software?
  349. 2003-07-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Is there anyone out there?
  350. 2003-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] 2 questions
  351. 2003-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] 2 questions
  352. 2003-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Evening meeting Wed July 23, 2203 7:00 PM
  353. 2003-07-22 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  354. 2003-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Evening FSCC Meeting
  355. 2003-07-21 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  356. 2003-07-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Escalates Linux Battle
  357. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from RedHat.
  358. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  359. 2003-07-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  360. 2003-07-30 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  361. 2003-07-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  362. 2003-07-29 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  363. 2003-07-24 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] DoJ Intellectual Property Lawyers answer questions from Slashdot.org
  364. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  365. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  366. 2003-07-02 Brian Redfern <bredfern-at-calarts.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  367. 2003-07-03 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium

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