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MESSAGE
DATE 2002-02-27
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Borough Hall Proposal

For Review and Comment:

NYLXS Borohall Proposal for Free Software


Overview: Borohall Brooklyn is in need of an upgrade in it's computing facilities. It is the objective of the Borough Presidents office to bring to the facility a modern system of groupware services, desktop solutions, internet access, and web services, in the most cost cost efficient possible for the benefit of the tax payer. In addition, a secondary objective of the Borough Presidents office is to involve local Brooklyn businesses, groups and services in this effort.

NYLXS is a Free Software organization which meeting largely in Brooklyn and Manhattan. We propose that in order for the Borough Presidents Office to obtain it's objectives, it needs to use a system which is mostly based on Free Software. Free Software will give the lowest cost of total ownership to the tax payer for the following reasons:

· No per seat Licensing fees
· No upgrade costs
· No need for special Virus software
· Ease of administration
· Ease of upgrade
· Simplified Security
· Infinitely expandable
· Less Frequent Hardware upgrade needed
· Ease of inter-operability
· Better Tech Support
· Proven Software Model
· Built in groupware features


Peter Cotton, the main contact point for the Borough Presidents Office underlined the following
computer needs for the Borough Hall Offices at 802-3900 ext 3759. Jon Bobber, Ruben Safir and Kevin Millani meet for 2 hours with PEter outlining his most basic needs for Borough Hall.

Peter presented the following needs and concerns

Web Server - BH wants to move the Web Services for Borough Presidents office into Borough Hal, and away from the Brooklyn Public Library, as it is presently.

Mail - BH needs to implement a reliable e-mail system. He suggested exchange, but we strongly recommended that exchange is insecure, expensive, and will need huge sums of money spent on tech support and anti-virus software.

Group wide Scheduling Software - BH is looking for a group wide scheduling system. Such a system is not much different than NYLXS's calendering programs.

SA Server
dewit
3270 - Terminals for the IBM systems are build into most Linux distributions and pose no trouble.
Final Management Systems
Training - BH is concerned that the new systems will require some end user training. Both NYLXS and Brooklyn Linux Solutions can and will provide inexpensive training for all of Borough Hall



NYLXS Proposed Solutions:

Web Services - NYLXS can install a perfectly adequate and an advanced Apache Web Server appliance which will provide all the needed power and services which the Borough will need. Ruben Safir, as web site developer of Brooklyn on Line, and NYLXS's systems has broad experience with both the type of development which will need to be done, and the level of serves which will be needed to provide adequate services for the Brooklyn Public. A basic Server can be installed and setup on new Hardware for cost of less than 1,100. A system specification such as this one through Brooklyn Linux Solutions is adequate:



Selected Base Price: $459.00
/Upgrade Cost
3671,3443,2247 AMD Athlon 1.2GHz $163.00
3359 Asus A7V-KT133 ATA/100 Motherboard $24.00
1282 In-Win ATX Full Tower with 300 Watt Power Supply $18.00
2304,2304 512MB PC133 SDRAM Memory (Two 256MB DIMMs) $168.00
3991 20.4GB UDMA-4 ATA/100 5400RPM $0.00
3502 52x IDE CD-ROM $0.00 1082 1.44MB Floppy Drive $0.00
1239 Jaton Trident 4MB 2X AGP Video Card $0.00
nosnd No Sound Card $0.00
nomod No Modem $0.00 1077,
1077 Two 3COM 3C905B-TX 10/100 PCI Network Card $98.00
nospeak No Speakers $0.00
noprin No Printer $0.00
SDFUTLV556 New 15inch Futura monitor .28mm Dot pitch $136.00
1802 104-Key PS/2 Keyboard $0.00 1295 Logitech First Mouse 3 Button Mouse $13.00 4315 Red Hat 7.1 GPL (CDROM Only) $0.00 Subtotal: $1,079.00

Note that hardware pricing can change. In addition, you can expect a $200 fee for setting up the servicer. and further costs from porting the current website and training.

Apache is THE CHOICE for Web services on the internet because it is free, secure, easy to maintain, and is a powerful applications server. The Server should be set up with Apache, modperl, and embperl for a powerful mix services and flexibility which outperforms all closed sourced solutions. In addition, NYLXS graduates through it's education program students trained on this system who can volunteer to help, or be hired for tech support.

Mail - Mail is Free on all Linux systems, secured and without limits. We will setup Sendmail and pop services to all clients connected to the system. In addition, we will setup Secure DNS for mail routing. When users are created, they will be automatically added to the mail system. The system is reliable and easy to maintain.

Group wide Scheduling Software - Scheduling software has been developed from Brooklyn Linux Solutions and we can easily Implement Most importantly about this is that we can extend this system and customize it for the Office, and even other outside contacts which Borough Hall might need to include in their family of friends. We have used this software extensively and found it to be very reliable, and run off the MYSQL database system, making it extremely robust and flexible, yet inexpensive and easy to maintain. NYLXS has a number of qualified people to work with this system. This system can be brought in for the cost of labor to setup, with no licensing fees.

In addition, the evolution mail clients now include hooks for groupware services, scheduling and tasks listings.

In addition to the savings of these system, they will be integrated into Free Software Desktops. These desktops are superior to Microsoft set up in several respects. They are free of licensing cost, nearly virus proof, easy to use and to train on, they are network ready out of the box, and free to upgrade. Borough Hall will have the advantage of being able to choose from 10's of thousands of software package to fill every groupware and computer task, most for for free for now and into the future.

SA Server -

Dewit -

3270 - These terminals are built into the systems at no cost.

Financial Management Systems - This system will require Borough Hall to provide specifics for before we can lay out a proposal. We should be able to make it work without any trouble.



In addition, NYLXS would like to include the file manager needs of the Office. It is likely that file sharing and transferring will be a part of the eventual internal solution for the Offices.

Linux makes a superb file sharing network system. A computer equal to the Web server should be able to service most of Borough Hall. In addition, we can use in build in VPN solutions to make files and the system available securely to other buildings in the City infrastructure using FreesWan. Setting this up will cost less than $2000 in labor, and no per seat licensing for the server. It functions with Windows clients, as well as Mac Clients and Free Software Clients.





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  3. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Entity-Relationship Modeling Software
  4. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Entity-Relationship Modeling Software
  5. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Borough Hall Proposal
  6. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Borough Hall Proposal
  7. 2002-02-27 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Entity-Relationship Modeling Software
  8. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Borough Hall Proposal
  9. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Borough Hall Proposal
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  12. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYACC
  13. 2002-02-27 David Katz <omnimath-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] NYACC
  14. 2002-02-27 alex-at-pilosoft.com Re: [hangout] SNA Borough Hall Proposal
  15. 2002-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hearing on this issue?
  16. 2002-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYACC (fwd)
  17. 2002-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] When does Linux 1 end?
  18. 2002-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] When does Linux 1 end?
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  20. 2002-02-26 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: [nylug-talk] School Project help
  21. 2002-02-26 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> FAQ (was Re: [hangout] CAN SOMEONE REPLY Fwd: Linux Classes/NYLXS membership [RConnolly-at-natsource.com])
  22. 2002-02-25 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] upcoming classes
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  24. 2002-02-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Times Electronic aVersion
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  26. 2002-02-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Foreign Countries Switching
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  28. 2002-02-24 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Foreign Countries Switching
  29. 2002-02-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Training Provider Information
  30. 2002-02-23 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] upcoming classes
  31. 2002-02-22 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] flyers
  32. 2002-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Real Estate
  33. 2002-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYACC, NYU Space
  34. 2002-02-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Brooklyn Borough Hall Groupware/Collaboration
  35. 2002-02-21 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Friday 22 February 2002: J. T. S. Moore's Documentary about GNU/Linux
  36. 2002-02-21 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Training Provider Information
  37. 2002-02-21 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY State funds for training
  38. 2002-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Washington DC
  39. 2002-02-17 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington DC
  40. 2002-02-15 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington D.C. trip
  41. 2002-02-15 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington D.C. trip
  42. 2002-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Infinity Conference Room [DBrightman-at-infinitygroup.com]
  43. 2002-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Infinity Conference Room [DBrightman-at-infinitygroup.com]
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  84. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We're going to Washington. Meeting announcement
  85. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We're going to Washington. Meeting announcement
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  88. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] We're going to Washington. Meeting announcement
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  90. 2002-02-06 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 Class paid student list
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  94. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Cell Phone
  95. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Cell Phone
  96. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] connecting a palm pilot to a desktop
  97. 2002-02-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Reality Check for me, please
  98. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Reality Check for me, please [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  99. 2002-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Reality Check for me, please [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  100. 2002-02-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Learning Linux [lakshmi_nj-at-yahoo.com]
  101. 2002-02-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Learning Linux [lakshmi_nj-at-yahoo.com]
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  103. 2002-02-05 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Machines for Linux 1 Class
  104. 2002-02-05 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Machines for Linux 1 Class
  105. 2002-02-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] List of Users who need machines
  106. 2002-02-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] List of Users who need machines
  107. 2002-02-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FAIRUSE MEETING TONITE
  108. 2002-02-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] LinuxWorld Expo
  109. 2002-02-04 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] mysql help
  110. 2002-02-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention Chairmen
  111. 2002-02-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Moglin Discussion at LWE - Future of the GPL
  112. 2002-02-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Moglin Discussion at LWE - Future of the GPL
  113. 2002-02-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What is a open source alternative to MS. Access [dfassoc-at-bway.net]
  114. 2002-02-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Moglin Discussion at LWE - Future of the GPL
  115. 2002-02-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Moglin Discussion at LWE - Future of the GPL
  116. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Moglin Discussion at LWE - Future of the GPL
  117. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Moglin Discussion at LWE - Future of the GPL
  118. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux One Class
  119. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux One Class
  120. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software in Government
  121. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software in Government
  122. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] What is a open source alternative to MS. Access [dfassoc-at-bway.net]
  123. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] What is a open source alternative to MS. Access [dfassoc-at-bway.net]
  124. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fallout of LWE - Things we need to follow up on
  125. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fallout of LWE - Things we need to follow up on
  126. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Geek moment - Star Wars exhibit coming to Brooklyn [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  127. 2002-02-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Geek moment - Star Wars exhibit coming to Brooklyn [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  128. 2002-02-02 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Re: [hangout] using GNOME with Window Maker
  129. 2002-02-01 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] using GNOME with Window Maker
  130. 2002-02-01 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Check this out
  131. 2002-02-01 Daniel Stringfield <dstringfield-at-arsenaldigital.com> RE: [hangout] Check this out
  132. 2002-02-01 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Check this out

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