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MESSAGE
DATE 2001-10-16
FROM Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] RIAA Computer Warfare

Not long ago Sony threatened to firewall every computer in america to
prevent the swaping of music.

This is a SERIOUS threat to fair use rights, and we need to prepare for
class action lawsuits to prevent this.


Ruben


http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20011016/tc/riaa_we_ll_smother_song_swappers_1.html
Tuesday October 16 11:13 AM EDT

RIAA: We'll smother song swappers

By John Borland, Special to ZDNet

The copyright infringement battle takes a new turn. The recording
industry is
now experimenting with new technology it hopes can smother online
song
swapping by targeting music traders' computers directly.

The recording industry is experimenting with new
technology it hopes can smother online song
swapping by targeting music traders' computers
directly.

The record, movie and software industries have
long
pursued a controversial campaign that identifies
people
trading large numbers of songs though services
such as
MusicCity, OpenNap or Gnutella (news - web
sites).
Once the people are identified, the groups
attempt to
persuade Internet service providers (ISPs) to
shut down
those individuals' Internet connections.

But copyright holders, including record labels,
are now
experimenting with new ways to cut down on
copyright
infringement. As described by sources at the
Recording
Industry Association of America (news - web
sites)
(RIAA), one method uses software to masquerade
as a
file-swapper online. Once the software has found
a
computer offering a certain song, it attempts to block other
potential traders from
downloading the song.

Already a potentially contentious plan, the recording industry
inadvertently
sparked a further wave of criticism last week with plans to
protect its strategy from
being undermined by a pending antiterrorism bill.

RIAA lobbyists sought a provision to the bill that would shield
copyright holders
for any damage done to computers in the pursuit of copyright
protection--a goal
that critics charged was too broad and might even give the group
the ability to
spread viruses in the pursuit of pirates.

"We referred to it as the 'license to virus,'" said one
congressional staffer. "It
would have given them the incentive to employ lots of hackers
trying to figure out
how to stop (MusicCity), Morpheus or Audiogalaxy."

An RIAA spokesman said the group was simply trying to protect its
existing tools,
not expand them.

"We have a legitimate concern that the measure currently being
debated could
unintentionally take away a remedy currently available to us
under law that helps
us combat piracy," said RIAA spokesman Jano Cabrera.

The direct approach
Copyright holders have been struggling for years to put the
brakes on accelerating
online piracy of music, movies and software, now centered in
peer-to-peer
services that have replaced Napster (news - web sites). Lawsuits
filed against
Napster, Scour, Aimster, MusicCity, Kazaa and Grokster have shut
down some of
these file-swapping gathering points, but the practice remains as
popular as ever.

This is the first evidence of a technological campaign by
copyright holders that
would mount a direct technological counter strike on the
file-swappers
themselves.

The new strategy would take advantage of file-swapping networks'
own
weaknesses, amplifying them to the point where download services
appear even
more clogged and slow to function than they are today. Because
most peer-to-peer
services are unregulated, the quality of connections and speed of
downloads already
varies wildly based on time of day and geographic location.

The software technology, according to industry sources, would
essentially act as a
downloader, repeatedly requesting the same file and downloading
it very slowly,
essentially preventing others from accessing the file. While
stopping short of a full
denial-of-service attack, the method could substantially clog the
target computer's
Internet connection.

Record labels hope to make the point that subscription services
such as MusicNet
or Pressplay, which will launch on Yahoo, America Online, MSN and
RealNetworks by year's end, will not be subject to the same
doubtful quality of
service.

It's unclear yet how much time and money any record label or
industry group is
willing to devote to the project. Given the huge number of
file-swappers online,
using this kind of direct-action technique against even a small
percentage of
song-traders could quickly soak up technical and financial
resources.

Appetite for more?
According to industry sources, the technology is being provided
by outside
technology companies and has not yet found its way into wide use.
But the
Washington battle indicates that the industry is willing to
protect its ability to use
its own technological tools against its high-tech adversaries.

A copy of the legislation proposed by the RIAA last week would
appear to have
given the group broad latitude to attack file-swappers' computers
without suffering
any civil liability.

No civil liability would result from "any impairment of the
availability of data, a
program, a system or information, resulting from measures taken
by an owner of
copyright," the proposed text read.

That language never made it into the antiterrorism bill, however.
Several
legislators of both parties objected, and the RIAA's text was
dropped. Industry
lobbyists are pursuing a different tack that they say would still
allow them to pursue
the current technological plan, however.

The new technological techniques, which would essentially hog a
file-traders' Net
connection so that genuine song-seekers couldn't get in, are
expected to be taken
up across the copyright holder community.

A representative for the Motion Picture Association of America,
which has also
aggressively pursued online pirates, declined to comment on that
organization's
plans.



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  1. 2001-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Proposed Constitution TEMPLATE
  2. 2001-10-31 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Comments on Proposed Constitution
  3. 2001-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Total Registration
  4. 2001-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 3 more registers for the perl course
  5. 2001-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "Wes Boyd": War Profiteering
  6. 2001-10-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Proposed Constitution TEMPLATE
  7. 2001-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] How Linux saved Amazon millions [scott-at-granneman.com]
  8. 2001-10-30 From: "John F. Moore" <john-at-lions-wing.net> Subject: [hangout] "Wes Boyd": War Profiteering
  9. 2001-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Finances
  10. 2001-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ANNOUNCEMENT - Special NYLXS Inservice Tech Lecture
  11. 2001-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  12. 2001-10-30 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re:[hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  13. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Congress is burning it's mail
  14. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Our new allies, Syrian, Sudan, and Libia
  15. 2001-10-29 Vadim Berezniker <vadim-at-berezniker.com> Re: [hangout] teaching perl: testing scripts
  16. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn Tech Technology and Free Software (as in Linux)
  17. 2001-10-29 Vadim Berezniker <vadim-at-berezniker.com> Re: [hangout] teaching perl: testing scripts
  18. 2001-10-29 Abdele Darius Sabre <randombeeps-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  19. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast Announcement
  20. 2001-10-29 Vadim Berezniker <vadim-at-berezniker.com> Re: [hangout] teaching perl: testing scripts
  21. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  22. 2001-10-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  23. 2001-10-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  24. 2001-10-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  25. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] teaching perl: testing scripts
  26. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] teaching perl: testing scripts
  27. 2001-10-29 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  28. 2001-10-29 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-mail.rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] Linux distribution for Toshiba Libretto
  29. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Kernel Security alerts
  30. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] openssh - key based authentication
  31. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] openssh - key based authentication
  32. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Linux says my 80GB drive is full, and it ain't
  33. 2001-10-29 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] [wwwac] Linux says my 80GB drive is full, and it ain't (fwd)
  34. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] News Archieve
  35. 2001-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Responding to The Agenda
  36. 2001-10-29 Abdele Darius Sabre <randombeeps-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Proposed Constitution TEMPLATE
  37. 2001-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Proposed Constitution TEMPLATE
  38. 2001-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Interesting Site
  39. 2001-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Programmer Exposes Microsoft Digital Management Flaws
  40. 2001-10-26 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair USe Canvassing
  41. 2001-10-26 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Statically linked Redhat
  42. 2001-10-26 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Statically linked Redhat
  43. 2001-10-26 Abdele Darius Sabre <randombeeps-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Statically linked Redhat
  44. 2001-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Statically linked Redhat
  45. 2001-10-26 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] New York City Noon Monday 29 October 2001: Rally to Free Dmitry
  46. 2001-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Updating old Linux Counter accounts
  47. 2001-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Course Announcement at NYLXS
  48. 2001-10-25 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] Anti-Western and Extremist Views Pervade Saudi Schools
  49. 2001-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Charter Meeting
  50. 2001-10-24 Abdele Darius Sabre <randombeeps-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Responding to The Agenda
  51. 2001-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Responding to The Agenda
  52. 2001-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fw: November Tech Meetings
  53. 2001-10-24 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Responding to The Agenda
  54. 2001-10-24 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] Anti-Western and Extremist Views Pervade Saudi Schools
  55. 2001-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Starting Agenda
  56. 2001-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Anti_free Software
  57. 2001-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Good Approach to a MySQL database [wwwac-at-focazio.com]
  58. 2001-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FTC begged to ensure consmer rights
  59. 2001-10-23 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] [wwwac] The Alley Responds--Silicon Alley Station live wedcast today
  60. 2001-10-23 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-mindspring.com> Re: [hangout] Friendly words from our Muslim friends...
  61. 2001-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Friendly words from our Muslim friends...
  62. 2001-10-23 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Friendly words from our Muslim friends...
  63. 2001-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Volunteers needed for the Financial Technology Conference and Expo - 10/23-25 [scott-at-wwwac.org]
  64. 2001-10-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] New York City Noon Monday 22 October 2001: Rally to Free Dmitry
  65. 2001-10-22 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 2.4 NAT HOWTO: Quick Translation From 2.0 and 2.2 Kernels
  66. 2001-10-20 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Anti-Western and Extremist Views Pervade Saudi Schools
  67. 2001-10-19 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New York Linux Scene - First Meeting [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  68. 2001-10-19 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 2nd Important Announcement on Copyright and Fairuse
  69. 2001-10-19 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Important Copyright/Fair Use Rally Announcment
  70. 2001-10-17 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bio Terrorism
  71. 2001-10-17 From: "J.E. Cripps" <cycmn-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Bio Terrorism
  72. 2001-10-17 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Jakob Nielsen on how Apple blew it, how Linux will blow it, and the Next Big Thing. (fwd)
  73. 2001-10-17 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Jakob Nielsen on how Apple blew it, how Linux will blow
  74. 2001-10-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  75. 2001-10-17 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] web site content management
  76. 2001-10-16 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bio Terrorism
  77. 2001-10-16 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Oct 23 - good meeting date
  78. 2001-10-16 Ruth Shanen <casandra-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: [hangout] Oct 23 - good meeting date
  79. 2001-10-16 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [RHSA-2001:132-03] New util-linux packages available to fix /bin/login
  80. 2001-10-16 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RIAA Computer Warfare
  81. 2001-10-16 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] attack on opensource, attack on economy?
  82. 2001-10-16 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] attack on opensource, attack on economy?
  83. 2001-10-16 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Setup of Free Swan - Authentication Troubles (fwd)
  84. 2001-10-15 Abdele Darius Sabre <randombeeps-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Sent to me - I send to you
  85. 2001-10-15 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  86. 2001-10-15 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Record Industry wants legal access to your computer
  87. 2001-10-15 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Record Industry wants legal access to your computer
  88. 2001-10-15 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  89. 2001-10-15 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  90. 2001-10-15 From: "Sean Auriti" <sean-at-ekaboo.com> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  91. 2001-10-15 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  92. 2001-10-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  93. 2001-10-15 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  94. 2001-10-14 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] New York City Noon Monday 15 October 2001: Rally to Free Dmitry
  95. 2001-10-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Computer Security Division Activities
  96. 2001-10-12 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Peaceful demonstrations in Pakistan
  97. 2001-10-12 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Peaceful demonstrations in Pakistan
  98. 2001-10-12 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Peaceful demonstrations in Pakistan
  99. 2001-10-12 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Install Feast in Brooklyn
  100. 2001-10-12 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Time Flys Bye
  101. 2001-10-12 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Install Feast in Brooklyn
  102. 2001-10-11 Ruth Shanen <casandra-at-ix.netcom.com> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  103. 2001-10-11 Ruth Shanen <casandra-at-ix.netcom.com> Re: [hangout] definition of TheLinuxSociety [ was:Organizational planning]
  104. 2001-10-11 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: ON bot to go out
  105. 2001-10-11 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] ON bot to go out
  106. 2001-10-11 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  107. 2001-10-11 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] more PHP Copyright dribbl
  108. 2001-10-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] more PHP Copyright dribbl
  109. 2001-10-11 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] router/RCN issues
  110. 2001-10-11 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] more PHP Copyright dribbl
  111. 2001-10-10 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] more PHP Copyright dribbl
  112. 2001-10-10 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Time and Place of first meeting
  113. 2001-10-10 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Organizational planning
  114. 2001-10-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: your mail
  115. 2001-10-08 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: your mail
  116. 2001-10-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: your mail
  117. 2001-10-08 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: your mail
  118. 2001-10-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] billy's key redux.
  119. 2001-10-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] billy's key redux.
  120. 2001-10-07 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: PHP Convention or the likee: PHP Convention or the like
  121. 2001-10-07 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  122. 2001-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net>
  123. 2001-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net>
  124. 2001-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] PGP - - - speaking of pgp
  125. 2001-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net>
  126. 2001-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net>
  127. 2001-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net>
  128. 2001-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net>

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