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DATE 2003-10-03
FROM From: "Inker, Evan"
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment

The Great Package Management Experiment
September 24, 2003

This article was contributed by Ladislav Bodnar

Last week's Revisiting RPM Package Management in the distribution section of
LWN was quickly followed by a heated debate about software management in
various distributions. Predictably, the discussion soon evolved into a
full-scale "distro war", where each distribution was vigorously defended by
its respective vocal fans. This heated feedback resulted in an attempt to
conduct a practical experiment. It will examine the package management tools
in five major binary Linux distributions (Debian, Mandrake, Red Hat,
Slackware, SuSE) and provide examples of 1) installing a package not
officially supplied by the distribution itself and 2) upgrading the entire
distribution to a newer version. Without any further ado, let's get on with
the show, in alphabetical order.

Debian GNU/Linux

I chose MPlayer for the test of installing a third-party package. MPlayer is
a popular media player for Linux, but most distributions do not supply it
due to potential legal issues with certain codecs included in the package.
Debian is no exception. Luckily, visiting apt-get.org and typing "mplayer"
into the site's search engine reveals the availability of MPlayer from a
number of unofficial repositories, as well as instructions for adding the
repository to one's sources.list. In case of Debian Woody, this is a simple
matter of adding 'deb http://marillat.free.fr stable main' to
/etc/apt/sources.list, then executing the following:

apt-get update
apt-get install mplayer
That's all to it, MPlayer is now installed and ready for use.

As far as upgrading the Debian distribution to the latest version, this is
done with a single command:

apt-get dist-upgrade
This is a well-tested, well-documented and reliable procedure for upgrading
a Debian system. The ease of package installation (whether native or
third-party) and system upgrades are often considered to be some of the most
pleasant aspects of using Debian GNU/Linux and this is hard to argue.
Overall score (on a scale from 1 to 10): third-party package installation:
10, distribution upgrade: 10.

Mandrake Linux

Like Debian, Mandrake does not supply MPlayer as part of the distribution. A
quick trip to Penguin Liberation Front (PLF) reveals availability of the
package, together with instructions on how to add the necessary sources to
Mandrake's package manager - urpmi. The site also provides a well-designed
three-step wizard, which enables users to specify a Mandrake version, select
official Mandrake mirrors and choose to add other third-party repositories,
such as PLF itself, Texstar's RPMs and Java RPMs. The wizard outputs a
number of urpmi.addmedia commands that need to be executed from the command
line - a simple copying and pasting those into the Konsole does the trick.
As soon as the execution completes, MPlayer can be installed with:

urpmi mplayer
uprmi mplayer-gui
The first command gives an option to choose between a stable or development
version of MPlayer, which is followed by a prompt to confirm installation of
dependent files. Mandrake's package manager then goes on to fetch and
install all the necessary files. In the test, everything installed
flawlessly and typing "gmplayer" on the command line launched MPlayer in its
full glory.

That was nice, but let's try something more challenging - such as updating
the entire distribution. At the time of the experiment, Mandrake Linux 9.2
was not yet released, but the distribution's development branch called
"Cooker" was very close to what the final Mandrake 9.2 would look like, sans
some last minute bug fixes. I followed the instructions in Cooker HOWTO and
How to Upgrade Mandrake, updated the urpmi sources to point to a fast local
mirror and executed the following commands:

urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm --auto
urpmi kernel
The entire upgrade procedure was a surprisingly pleasant experience. All
completed without a single hitch and when I rebooted the system, I found
myself in a brand new Mandrake Linux 9.2, almost final. Comparing the
upgrade process to Debian, the only downside is that three commands are
needed to upgrade Mandrake, as opposed to a single command for upgrading
Debian. The overall score: third-party package installation: 10,
distribution upgrade: 9.

Red Hat Linux

Red Hat Linux 9's only package updating tool with dependency resolution is
up2date. This was primarily designed for updating an existing installation
with critical bug fixes and security patches, rather than as a general
purpose package management tool. It is not possible to add third-party
repositories to up2date and non-subscribers require to fill in a lengthy
registration form every few months. But even paying subscribers have
reported frequent failures to connect to up2date servers shortly after Red
Hat's security advisories.

Currently, there are two third-party tools with dependency resolution
capabilities for Red Hat Linux - apt-get and yum. For the MPlayer
installation experiment, I settled on apt, which is trivial to set up on any
recent Red Hat installation - a quick trip to freshrpms.net was all that was
required to download the relevant RPM package and install it manually.
Afterward, installing MPlayer and all of its dependencies was also a
no-brainer:

apt-get install mplayer
As soon as the installation process completed, MPlayer was ready for use.

Next came the task of upgrading a vanilla Red Hat 9 to Rawhide, which is Red
Hat's development branch, probably fairly close to a new beta expected to be
released shortly. Here I chose yum for the job, mainly because yum is now
included in the Rawhide and presumably it will be included in the next
official Red Hat Linux release. The package is also available from
freshrpms.net. After configuring the sources, I issued the following
commands:

yum check-update
yum -t -y upgrade
Perhaps being spoiled by a very easy Mandrake upgrade, I expected a
similarly smooth flow while upgrading Red Hat. Unfortunately, it wasn't the
case. The upgrade proved to be a lot of hard work and here is the summary of
my observations:

One of the main disadvantages of the yum package manager is that it only
works with a Red Hat mirror, which has been "yumified". A yumified mirror
contains a separate directory with header files of every available RPM
package. At present, not many mirrors appear to have been yumified.

The upgrade process aborted with errors on countless occasions. Even a
simple error such as a failure to download a package for whatever reason
brought the upgrade to a halt and had to be manually restarted. Once
restarted, yum went through a lengthy dependency checking period, despite
the fact that no change had been made to the package selection. Also, yum
does not seem to have the ability to re-try fetching a package in case the
first attempt fails.

A major upgrade such as this one can take many hours, but unlike Debian or
Mandrake's package managers, yum gives no indication about the progress or
estimated time left.
Nevertheless, the upgrade eventually completed and I was able to boot into a
newly upgraded development version of Red Hat Linux. Perhaps another
detailed comparison of yum with apt would be useful here, but I'll leave it
for another time when we know more about Red Hat's (or Fedora's) direction
in terms of its package management. Worth mentioning here is an interesting
comment by one of the readers in last week's forums, which deserves to be
quoted here:

Although yum is now in rawhide, I don't expect to see it in a released
version of RHL or RHEL. Why do I say this? Because the newest up2date that
will ship with the upcoming RHEL and RHL now supports remote "yum" and "apt"
repositories in addition to the native "rhn-style" repositories. Since
up2date now speaks all languages (rhn, apt, yum) there is no need to ship
those other tools.
Overall score (2 points were deducted for having to use a third-party
package manager): third-party package installation: 8, distribution upgrade:
3.

Slackware Linux

Slackware's package manager does not have the ability to resolve
dependencies. The MPlayer experiment started with a trip to LinuxPackages,
where I located and downloaded the necessary package, then executed
installpkg:

installpkg mplayer-1.0pre1-i686-2rob.tgz
Although no errors were reported during installation, MPlayer failed to
launch due to missing libraries. Back to LinuxPackages to download alsa-lib,
lame and libdvdread (the dependent packages were clearly listed on the
MPlayer download page), before installing them with installpkg. This has
satisfied all requirements and MPlayer was ready for action.

There are three third-party packages that handle Slackware package updates -
these are swaret, slackpkg and slapt-get. Both swaret and slackpkg have now
been officially included in the "extra" directory of Slackware Linux, but
between the two of them only swaret has the ability to resolve dependencies,
while slackpkg is generally used to keep a Slackware system synchronized
with the "current" branch (i.e. development branch, equivalent to Sid,
Cooker or Rawhide). At this point, it is perhaps interesting to note a
recent comment by Slackware's creator Patrick Volkerding, which indicates
that not everybody thinks highly about advanced package management tools:
"I'm not a big believer in automated dependency handling."

As with all other distributions in this experiment, I wanted to upgrade a
vanilla Slackware 9.0 installation to the latest available development
version, which at the time of writing was Slackware Linux 9.1-beta2. This
can be done with Slackware's native tools, but the process is fairly
involved, it requires manual download of all upgraded packages, which then
need to be upgraded with upgradepkg in a certain correct order. After
downloading and installing swaret, the same could be achieved with two
commands:

swaret --update
swaret --upgrade -a
Again, the process took time, but completed with no errors. Several newly
upgraded packages required extra packages to satisfy dependencies and this
is the only place where user intervention was called for to confirm the
action. But the overall experience was very similar to upgrading Mandrake,
except that it required a third-party tool.

Overall score (2 points were deducted for having to use a third-party
package manager): third-party package installation: 5, distribution upgrade:
7.

SuSE Linux

As many readers correctly pointed out, SuSE's native package manager called
YOU (YaST Online Update), does indeed have dependency resolution
capabilities. My apologies to SuSE users for the erroneous claim to the
contrary. The reason which led me to believe otherwise was the frequency
with which questions about apt-get come up on SuSE's mailing lists. Upon
some investigation, it would appear that the main reason for apt-get's
proliferation and preference among SuSE users is that certain third-party
repositories of SuSE packages encourage users to make use of it. The popular
usr local bin, which provides up-to-date GNOME packages is a good example.
Another major advantage of APT for SuSE is its ability to upgrade the entire
distribution with a single command and without re-installing. According to
this comparison chart YOU cannot be used for this purpose.

Keeping uniformity in the package installation experiment proved difficult,
because SuSE is the only distribution in this list that does ship with
MPlayer. However, some of the useful, but legally questionable components
and plugins are missing from it, so let's try to install a more useful
version, such as the one found at links2linux.de. Unfortunately, attempting
to add the source of the MPlayer package to Software Source Media in YaST
resulted in a "ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)" message. But after
installing apt and its dependencies, and updating apt's sources, MPlayer
installed with a single command:

apt-get install MPlayer
The test of upgrading the entire SuSE 8.2 distribution to a newer version
could not be done, simply because a newer version of SuSE Linux has yet to
be released. It will probably be another two months before SuSE 9.0
directories appear on mirrors to give apt-get a chance to do its magic.
Overall score: third-party package installation: 6, distribution upgrade:
not rated.

Conclusion

To conclude this lengthy and time consuming experiment involving package
installations and distribution upgrades, we have two clear winners - Debian
and Mandrake. Debian is hard to beat when it comes to overall convenience,
but Mandrake has made a lot of effort and its urpmi package management and
underlying technology has just about succeeded in catching up with Debian's.
The other three distributions have a long way to go. Red Hat is currently in
a major transition and the question of package and distribution upgrades is
probably being addressed as I write this. Slackware is easy to upgrade with
swaret, a tool which will be included in the upcoming Slackware 9.1, but it
doesn't handle installing packages from third-party repositories. As for
SuSE, it falls short of all other distributions. YOU has a pleasant
interface and it works extremely well within its official package set, but
as a software management tool, it has too many shortcomings to compare well
with either apt-get or urpmi.

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  12. 2003-10-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  13. 2003-10-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: openssl (SuSE-SA:2003:043)]
  14. 2003-10-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  15. 2003-10-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] Discontinued SuSE Linux Distributions]
  16. 2003-10-01 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  17. 2003-10-01 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  18. 2003-10-01 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  19. 2003-10-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  20. 2003-10-01 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  21. 2003-10-01 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  22. 2003-10-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: DRM Revolt
  23. 2003-10-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: DRM Revolt
  24. 2003-10-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Copyright Lawsuit Is Turnabout for SCO
  25. 2003-10-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Samba beats Windows
  26. 2003-10-12 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Subversive code.
  27. 2003-10-12 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Subversive code.
  28. 2003-10-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Subversive code.
  29. 2003-10-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: A couple of thoughts
  30. 2003-10-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] install-hangout day saturday or sunday?
  31. 2003-10-11 From: "michael howard" <h00man1-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] install-hangout day saturday or sunday?
  32. 2003-10-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Summit
  33. 2003-10-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GNOME Summit
  34. 2003-10-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-discuss] pho: SunnComm to sue Halderman? (fwd)
  35. 2003-10-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Press Release For Immediate Re lease
  36. 2003-10-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] SysV
  37. 2003-10-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Press Release For Immediate Re
  38. 2003-10-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-discuss] pho: SunnComm to sue Halderman? (fwd)
  39. 2003-10-10 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] GNOME Summit
  40. 2003-10-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: GNOME Summit [behdad-at-cs.toronto.edu]
  41. 2003-10-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Press Release For Immediate Release
  42. 2003-10-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  43. 2003-10-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: GNOME Summit [behdad-at-cs.toronto.edu]
  44. 2003-10-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Certification
  45. 2003-10-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  46. 2003-10-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  47. 2003-10-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Press Release For Immediate Release
  48. 2003-10-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  49. 2003-10-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Press Release For Immediate Release
  50. 2003-10-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  51. 2003-10-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  52. 2003-10-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell to launch Linux qualification
  53. 2003-10-09 Nat Friedman <nat-at-ximian.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: minor website nitpicks
  54. 2003-10-09 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: Press Release For Immediate Release
  55. 2003-10-09 Luis Villa <louie-at-ximian.com> Subject: [hangout] minor website nitpicks
  56. 2003-10-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  57. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Press Release For Immediate Release
  58. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: Press Release For Immediate Release
  59. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Press Release For Immediate Release
  60. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  61. 2003-10-09 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  62. 2003-10-09 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  63. 2003-10-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Handout/Flyer...Let me know what you think
  64. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Edited and Proofed
  65. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  66. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  67. 2003-10-09 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  68. 2003-10-09 From: "TechVenue.com Services" <Services-at-TechVenue.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Press Release For Immediate Release
  69. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Press Release For Immediate Release
  70. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  71. 2003-10-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press Release For Immediate Release
  72. 2003-10-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press Release For Immediate Release
  73. 2003-10-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  74. 2003-10-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  75. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Edited and Proofed
  76. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Edited and Proofed
  77. 2003-10-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  78. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Edited and Proofed
  79. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  80. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  81. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  82. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  83. 2003-10-09 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  84. 2003-10-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Please check spelling before I send this out.
  85. 2003-10-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Slackware 9.1: The installation experience (in full)
  86. 2003-10-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft dominance of OS market grows, IDC study says
  87. 2003-10-08 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] oops
  88. 2003-10-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  89. 2003-10-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Gnubies Meeting Wednesday October 8th: Forest Mars - You are
  90. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  91. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  92. 2003-10-07 Nat Friedman <nat-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  93. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  94. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  95. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  96. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  97. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  98. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  99. 2003-10-07 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  100. 2003-10-07 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  101. 2003-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Viao is almost fixed
  102. 2003-10-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Product Liability Lawsuits Are New Threat to Microsoft
  103. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Viao is almost fixed
  104. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LDAP/Perl Expert-NJ Consulting Firm, United States, NJ, Bedminster
  105. 2003-10-07 From: "Mark S. Gold" <MARK-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  106. 2003-10-07 From: "Mark S. Gold" <MARK-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  107. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Developes Summit Scheduled for November 22-24, 2003
  108. 2003-10-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Network Computer: An opportunity for Linux
  109. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  110. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Pasha - I need your help with the GNOME Website
  111. 2003-10-07 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  112. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  113. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  114. 2003-10-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] DistroWatch Weekly, Issues 17 & 18 29 Sept 2003 & 06 Oct 2003
  115. 2003-10-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Moving Stuff from my house
  116. 2003-10-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Connecting a Printer to a VT100 Terminal
  117. 2003-10-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Educational Meetinng
  118. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EFF report on the DMCA
  119. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C Intro
  120. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C Intro
  121. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BTW Tech Night
  122. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Nite Moves to Saturday Night
  123. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft - One step closer
  124. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The IRS, RIAA, Time-Warner Cable, and the DMCA
  125. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FYI
  126. 2003-10-03 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  127. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Different 5 Boro Lugs
  128. 2003-10-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Different 5 Boro Lugs
  129. 2003-10-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Next Education Committee Meeting?
  130. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] PERL/DBI/UNIX/APACHE DEVELOPER (onsite), United States, nj, W.Paterson [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  131. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  132. 2003-10-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  133. 2003-10-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  134. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  135. 2003-10-03 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce]
  136. 2003-10-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  137. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  138. 2003-10-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  139. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylug-talk] Microsoft for Partners: Sales Training - Competingwith Linux
  140. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  141. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Slackware Linux 9.1 has been released
  142. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Merrill to Sun: 'Cut and Focus' or Be Acquired
  143. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Merrill to Sun: 'Cut and Focus' or Be Acquired
  144. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  145. 2003-10-02 Luis Villa <louie-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  146. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  147. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  148. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  149. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Website designers & database programmers needed for new wireless initiative
  150. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Marcelrf-at-bellsouth.net: [nycwireless] Bush administration supports spectrum for unlicensed devices]
  151. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  152. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  153. 2003-10-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  154. 2003-10-02 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  155. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Taiwan gov't offers software code
  156. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  157. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [dennis.bieling-at-epigenomics.com: Re: [Users] key creation]
  158. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
  159. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Foot in the Door for Open Source?
  160. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Rolls Out 64-bit Linux For PCs
  161. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Linux Cat in SuSE's Hat
  162. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Free Software Chamber of Commerce Meeting - Wednesday, Oct
  163. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout]
  164. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYPC October General Meeting - Open Source: Beyond Linux
  165. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting - Wed October 08, 2003
  166. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Important information about Trustix
  167. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
  168. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SUSE Gets New Name, Logo Prior to New Product Release
  169. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] UN Summit Tones Down Open-Source Stance
  170. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Business which needs attention:
  171. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Patents and the Telephone
  172. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spammers using Digital Signatures
  173. 2003-10-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  174. 2003-10-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] (fwd) [tech-geeks] Microsoft VP admits openoffice as good as MS Office 97
  175. 2003-10-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) [tech-geeks] Microsoft VP admits openoffice as good as MS Office 97
  176. 2003-10-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Firm drops suit against grad's CD hack
  177. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [vlain-at-libero.it: Re: [Users] Article introducing VPN]
  178. 2003-10-16 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] NYC Transit
  179. 2003-10-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Inspector General for the DMCA.
  180. 2003-10-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Inspector General for the DMCA.
  181. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  182. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  183. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  184. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  185. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  186. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  187. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  188. 2003-10-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  189. 2003-10-15 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <michael.l.richardson-at-verizon.net> Subject: [hangout] gnome flyers
  190. 2003-10-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  191. 2003-10-14 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Israel Slams the door on MS
  192. 2003-10-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SysV
  193. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SysV
  194. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  195. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Business which needs attention:
  196. 2003-10-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Board meeting
  197. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Muscle
  198. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME REGISTRATION :wq Embperl Error
  199. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Registration Page
  200. 2003-10-17 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Re: [hangout] NYC Transit
  201. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [SYates-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu: RE: GNOMES Meeting]
  202. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Senior mod_perl Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  203. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl / Mason / DBI - Software Engineer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  204. 2003-10-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement (fwd)
  205. 2003-10-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [miguel-at-ximian.com: Summit registration problem]
  206. 2003-10-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Drug Recall - No Joke
  207. 2003-10-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  208. 2003-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Arch Linux: A Better Distribution
  209. 2003-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Style: View from the Trenches: Alternative Package Sources
  210. 2003-10-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] suse network configuration
  211. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  212. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  213. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  214. 2003-10-20 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  215. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Got your voicemail ...]
  216. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Got your voicemail ...
  217. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BOARD MEETING TONIGHT
  218. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  219. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In other events this week
  220. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More other events this week
  221. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] And Yet More other events this week
  222. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [SYates-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu: RE: GNOMES Meeting]
  223. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  224. 2003-10-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  225. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] GNOME Summit 2003
  226. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  227. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  228. 2003-10-21 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  229. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  230. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  231. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  232. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] City Council Meeting
  233. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  234. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  235. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  236. 2003-10-22 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  237. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  238. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl Developer for Web Applications (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  239. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  240. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  241. 2003-10-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  242. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  243. 2003-10-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  244. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  245. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  246. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  247. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  248. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  249. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FTAA draft is worse than we expected
  250. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: linux in NYC schools
  251. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [geoff-at-modperlcookbook.org: Re: [MEETING][TECHNICAL] Geoff Young on mod_perl]
  252. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Summary
  253. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Book Cases Arrived - Need to be built - perhaps tonight
  254. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Book Cases Arrived - Need to be built - perhaps tonight
  255. 2003-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FUD from Forbes
  256. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  257. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS possibilities
  258. 2003-10-23 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  259. 2003-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  260. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  261. 2003-10-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS PHONE
  262. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS PHONE
  263. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re: GNOME Summit]
  264. 2003-10-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re: GNOME Summit]
  265. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  266. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] For Mr Villari
  267. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  268. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Bookcases
  269. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  270. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Places to go for the Gnome conference.
  271. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  272. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  273. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  274. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  275. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  276. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where the hell are my house keys
  277. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  278. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [license-violation-at-fsf.org: Re: [gnu.org #122161] [EInker-at-gam.com: RE: [hangout] FUD from Forbes]]
  279. 2003-10-24 Leslie Proctor <proctors-at-pacbell.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  280. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  281. 2003-10-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  282. 2003-10-25 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  283. 2003-10-25 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  284. 2003-10-25 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  285. 2003-10-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrow
  286. 2003-10-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I've had it with Linux
  287. 2003-10-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IT jobs with Eckerds
  288. 2003-10-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I've had it with Linux
  289. 2003-10-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  290. 2003-10-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  291. 2003-10-27 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] [geoff-at-modperlcookbook.org: Re: [MEETING][TECHNICAL] Geoff Young on mod_perl]
  292. 2003-10-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: 10 cents a minute
  293. 2003-10-27 From: "michael howard" <h00man1-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] sunday technites ?
  294. 2003-10-27 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  295. 2003-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  296. 2003-10-28 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  297. 2003-10-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  298. 2003-10-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SCO Declares Total War on the GPL -- Says GPL Is No t Enforceable
  299. 2003-10-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] They just don't get it
  300. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl, Oracle, html/css (onsite), United States, MA / CT, Natick / New London]
  301. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open source riles software makers
  302. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bank tomorrow
  303. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  304. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Planning Meeting
  305. 2003-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Review: SUSE 9 Professional October 2003
  306. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  307. 2003-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] DVD in SUJSE
  308. 2003-10-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld registration now open - register today!] (fwd)
  309. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: thttpd (SuSE-SA:2003:044)]
  310. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA-Activists] Boucher: Exemptions Decision 'Misguided'
  311. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  312. 2003-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  313. 2003-10-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  314. 2003-10-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] xfmail
  315. 2003-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Come Visit Tomorrow
  316. 2003-10-23 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  317. 2003-10-23 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> FWD: [hangout] Re: opportunity
  318. 2003-10-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Fwd: IT: DMCA Exemption for censorware renewed!
  319. 2003-10-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] All the President's votes? (fwd)
  320. 2003-10-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Prosecutors Admit Error in Security Whisteblower
  321. 2003-10-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Newest Audio CD DRM Proves Ineffective (fwd)

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