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DATE 2003-10-02
FROM From: "Inker, Evan"
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out

ESR: After Sun Goes Out
Oct 2, 2003, 14 :00 UTC (19 Talkback[s]) (6747 reads)
(Other stories by Eric S. Raymond)
http://linuxtoday.com/it_management/mailprint.php3?action=pv<sn=2003-10-02
-014-26-OP-BZ-SW

By Eric S. Raymond
President, Open Source Initiative

Sun Microsystems crossed the line from "troubled" to "doomed" yesterday.
This is sad news for the open-source community, and we need to think about
how we're going to deal with it. The most pressing questions are "What
becomes of Java?" and "What becomes of OpenOffice.org?" These are questions
that matter.

Sun's troubles have been mounting for a while. Founder Bill Joy's departure
was an ominous recent symbol, but the substance of their problem is that
their huge-margin server business is being eroded from the low end by PCs
running Linux at a rate that doesn't leave it much of a future.

Nobody should cheer the prospect of Sun's demise. Sun screwed up some major
decisions very badly, from wrecking Unix standardization efforts in the
1980s to throttling the dream of Java ubiquity by keeping the language
proprietary. But nobody should forget that Sun was founded by Unix hackers
for Unix hackers. For most of its lifespan Sun remained the archetype of an
engineering-driven company. Sun was, mostly, among the good guys; to hackers
and geeks, disputing with Sun was almost a family quarrel.

But inside Sun, I hear that talent is bailing out of the company because
they just don't believe the Solaris-will-prevail story management is
peddling. Most of Sun's techies are running Linux on their PCs at home. They
can see the handwriting on the wall.

In retrospect, the recent pronunciamento that Sun has no Linux strategy was
their final admission of failure. Sun can't run at the lean profit margins
that are all a commoditized Linux server market will support, their cost
structure is all wrong for it. They got trapped in a classic innovator's
dilemma and didn't cannibalize their own business while they had the
investor confidence and maneuvering room to do so. Cuddling up to SCO didn't
help, either.

And now it's too late. Moody's has just about dropped Sun into the junk-bond
basement. The stock closed at $3.31, 15% off for the day and falling in
heavy trading. The recent product announcements have been duds, and the
upcoming quarterlies are going to be a disaster. Wall street analysts are
calling for drastic job cuts and speaking the code phrases that mean "run
for the hills!" The smell of death is in the air.

Any of Sun's people and tangible assets that don't scatter to the four winds
will probably wind up in the hands of IBM, HP, and Dell--three companies
that have shown they do know how to play the commodity-computing game. The
SCO lawsuit probably won't be affected. Sun was the lesser-known of of SCO's
sugar daddies along with Microsoft, but Redmond can pick up Sun's share of
funding the lawsuit out of petty cash--and it undoubtedly will.

The real question is two-fold: can OpenOffice.org survive without Sun and
where will Java land? Probably not at Microsoft; with C# in the picture, it
is unlikely that Microsoft even wants to own Java any more. I have to guess
that IBM is the most likely to shoulder both technologies, simply because
nobody else is really positioned to do it. But that, of course, raises other
worries--is it really good for us if IBM has a lead position in everything?

Related Stories:
Reuters: Sun Shares Tumble, Wall St Seeks Deeper Cost Cuts(Oct 01, 2003)
NewsForge: What Sun Needs To Do Now to Survive(Sep 30, 2003)


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  115. 2003-10-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Moving Stuff from my house
  116. 2003-10-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Connecting a Printer to a VT100 Terminal
  117. 2003-10-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Educational Meetinng
  118. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EFF report on the DMCA
  119. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C Intro
  120. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C Intro
  121. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BTW Tech Night
  122. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Nite Moves to Saturday Night
  123. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft - One step closer
  124. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The IRS, RIAA, Time-Warner Cable, and the DMCA
  125. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FYI
  126. 2003-10-03 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  127. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Different 5 Boro Lugs
  128. 2003-10-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Different 5 Boro Lugs
  129. 2003-10-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Next Education Committee Meeting?
  130. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] PERL/DBI/UNIX/APACHE DEVELOPER (onsite), United States, nj, W.Paterson [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  131. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  132. 2003-10-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  133. 2003-10-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  134. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  135. 2003-10-03 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce]
  136. 2003-10-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  137. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  138. 2003-10-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  139. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylug-talk] Microsoft for Partners: Sales Training - Competingwith Linux
  140. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  141. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Slackware Linux 9.1 has been released
  142. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Merrill to Sun: 'Cut and Focus' or Be Acquired
  143. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Merrill to Sun: 'Cut and Focus' or Be Acquired
  144. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  145. 2003-10-02 Luis Villa <louie-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  146. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  147. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  148. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  149. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Website designers & database programmers needed for new wireless initiative
  150. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Marcelrf-at-bellsouth.net: [nycwireless] Bush administration supports spectrum for unlicensed devices]
  151. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  152. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  153. 2003-10-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  154. 2003-10-02 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  155. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Taiwan gov't offers software code
  156. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  157. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [dennis.bieling-at-epigenomics.com: Re: [Users] key creation]
  158. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
  159. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Foot in the Door for Open Source?
  160. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Rolls Out 64-bit Linux For PCs
  161. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Linux Cat in SuSE's Hat
  162. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Free Software Chamber of Commerce Meeting - Wednesday, Oct
  163. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout]
  164. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYPC October General Meeting - Open Source: Beyond Linux
  165. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting - Wed October 08, 2003
  166. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Important information about Trustix
  167. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
  168. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SUSE Gets New Name, Logo Prior to New Product Release
  169. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] UN Summit Tones Down Open-Source Stance
  170. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Business which needs attention:
  171. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Patents and the Telephone
  172. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spammers using Digital Signatures
  173. 2003-10-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  174. 2003-10-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] (fwd) [tech-geeks] Microsoft VP admits openoffice as good as MS Office 97
  175. 2003-10-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) [tech-geeks] Microsoft VP admits openoffice as good as MS Office 97
  176. 2003-10-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Firm drops suit against grad's CD hack
  177. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [vlain-at-libero.it: Re: [Users] Article introducing VPN]
  178. 2003-10-16 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] NYC Transit
  179. 2003-10-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Inspector General for the DMCA.
  180. 2003-10-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Inspector General for the DMCA.
  181. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  182. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  183. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  184. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  185. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  186. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  187. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  188. 2003-10-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  189. 2003-10-15 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <michael.l.richardson-at-verizon.net> Subject: [hangout] gnome flyers
  190. 2003-10-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  191. 2003-10-14 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Israel Slams the door on MS
  192. 2003-10-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SysV
  193. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SysV
  194. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  195. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Business which needs attention:
  196. 2003-10-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Board meeting
  197. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Muscle
  198. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME REGISTRATION :wq Embperl Error
  199. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Registration Page
  200. 2003-10-17 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Re: [hangout] NYC Transit
  201. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [SYates-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu: RE: GNOMES Meeting]
  202. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Senior mod_perl Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  203. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl / Mason / DBI - Software Engineer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  204. 2003-10-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement (fwd)
  205. 2003-10-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [miguel-at-ximian.com: Summit registration problem]
  206. 2003-10-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Drug Recall - No Joke
  207. 2003-10-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  208. 2003-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Arch Linux: A Better Distribution
  209. 2003-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Style: View from the Trenches: Alternative Package Sources
  210. 2003-10-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] suse network configuration
  211. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  212. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  213. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  214. 2003-10-20 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  215. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Got your voicemail ...]
  216. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Got your voicemail ...
  217. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BOARD MEETING TONIGHT
  218. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  219. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In other events this week
  220. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More other events this week
  221. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] And Yet More other events this week
  222. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [SYates-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu: RE: GNOMES Meeting]
  223. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  224. 2003-10-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  225. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] GNOME Summit 2003
  226. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  227. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  228. 2003-10-21 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  229. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  230. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  231. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  232. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] City Council Meeting
  233. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  234. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  235. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  236. 2003-10-22 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  237. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  238. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl Developer for Web Applications (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  239. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  240. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  241. 2003-10-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  242. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  243. 2003-10-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  244. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  245. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  246. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  247. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  248. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  249. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FTAA draft is worse than we expected
  250. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: linux in NYC schools
  251. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [geoff-at-modperlcookbook.org: Re: [MEETING][TECHNICAL] Geoff Young on mod_perl]
  252. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Summary
  253. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Book Cases Arrived - Need to be built - perhaps tonight
  254. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Book Cases Arrived - Need to be built - perhaps tonight
  255. 2003-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FUD from Forbes
  256. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  257. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS possibilities
  258. 2003-10-23 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  259. 2003-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  260. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  261. 2003-10-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS PHONE
  262. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS PHONE
  263. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re: GNOME Summit]
  264. 2003-10-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re: GNOME Summit]
  265. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  266. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] For Mr Villari
  267. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  268. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Bookcases
  269. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  270. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Places to go for the Gnome conference.
  271. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  272. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  273. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  274. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  275. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  276. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where the hell are my house keys
  277. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  278. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [license-violation-at-fsf.org: Re: [gnu.org #122161] [EInker-at-gam.com: RE: [hangout] FUD from Forbes]]
  279. 2003-10-24 Leslie Proctor <proctors-at-pacbell.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  280. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  281. 2003-10-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  282. 2003-10-25 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  283. 2003-10-25 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  284. 2003-10-25 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  285. 2003-10-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrow
  286. 2003-10-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I've had it with Linux
  287. 2003-10-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IT jobs with Eckerds
  288. 2003-10-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I've had it with Linux
  289. 2003-10-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  290. 2003-10-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  291. 2003-10-27 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] [geoff-at-modperlcookbook.org: Re: [MEETING][TECHNICAL] Geoff Young on mod_perl]
  292. 2003-10-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: 10 cents a minute
  293. 2003-10-27 From: "michael howard" <h00man1-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] sunday technites ?
  294. 2003-10-27 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  295. 2003-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  296. 2003-10-28 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  297. 2003-10-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  298. 2003-10-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SCO Declares Total War on the GPL -- Says GPL Is No t Enforceable
  299. 2003-10-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] They just don't get it
  300. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl, Oracle, html/css (onsite), United States, MA / CT, Natick / New London]
  301. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open source riles software makers
  302. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bank tomorrow
  303. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  304. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Planning Meeting
  305. 2003-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Review: SUSE 9 Professional October 2003
  306. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  307. 2003-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] DVD in SUJSE
  308. 2003-10-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld registration now open - register today!] (fwd)
  309. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: thttpd (SuSE-SA:2003:044)]
  310. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA-Activists] Boucher: Exemptions Decision 'Misguided'
  311. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  312. 2003-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  313. 2003-10-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  314. 2003-10-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] xfmail
  315. 2003-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Come Visit Tomorrow
  316. 2003-10-23 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  317. 2003-10-23 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> FWD: [hangout] Re: opportunity
  318. 2003-10-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Fwd: IT: DMCA Exemption for censorware renewed!
  319. 2003-10-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] All the President's votes? (fwd)
  320. 2003-10-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Prosecutors Admit Error in Security Whisteblower
  321. 2003-10-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Newest Audio CD DRM Proves Ineffective (fwd)

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