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| DATE | 2003-10-02 |
| FROM | From: "Inker, Evan"
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| SUBJECT | RE: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
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What I have been noticing is that the Big Distributions want out of the Home
Market and just into Enterprise Business and Education Institutions.
Mandrake has talked about that as well. SUSE's latest offering, SUSE Linux
Desktop, is only being rolled out to Enterprise Business customers and
minimum buy-in is 5 seat license at $598. (Includes support subscription for
5 Users for one year).
Redhat has been most vocal in that their boxed seats do not generate revenue
for their company and they want to be a For Profit company.
Its becoming a new era for Linux in the sense that the "techie Geek Users"
who originally provided exposure of the OS to business and education will
now be side-lined in a sense and Corporate Accounts is where the Major Linux
Players want to be...
Regards,
Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
-----Original Message-----
From: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:33 AM
To: Inker, Evan
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
Wow
This is the weirdest business event i've read to date. Obviously, having
Red Hat in boxed sets in stores has given RH a huge market advantage over
other distributions. And Red Hat's core distribtuion is the expereince and
expertise which gives them an edge over the competition?
They've not Sun...
What is going on here? Can we expect to see a RH debian
distribition soon?
Ruben
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:46:19PM +0100, Inker, Evan wrote:
>
> Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2003
> Topic: Linux Market
>
> Charles Curley
>
> New project takes over maintenance and support of RH Linux products;
> RH Enterprise Linux unaffected.
>
>
> On Monday, September 22, Red Hat sent out an announcement about the
> future direction of Red Hat Linux: it will be merged with Fedora
> Linux. This is not a corporate merger; instead, it is a change in how
> Red Hat Linux is maintained and supported. The result is the Fedora
> Project. Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) is unaffected by this merger
> and will continue to be a Red Hat product.
>
> The main reason for the Red Hat/Fedora merger is straight-forward: Red
> Hat is a for-profit company, not a charity. In short, Red Hat loses
> money on Red Hat Linux. Turning it over to Fedora will help keep the
> company profitable. One bit of fallout is the boxed sets will no
> longer be available in stores. However, third parties may distribute
> Fedora, provided they follow Red Hat's trademark guidelines.
>
> Although a lot of details are yet to be sorted out, the outlines of
> the new project are clear: Red Hat will no longer make, maintain or
> support new releases of its former low end product, Red Hat Linux.
> Existing Red Hat Linux products will be supported until the end of
> their product lives, as previously announced.
>
> What is new is the fact that there will be no Red Hat Linux 10, aka
> severn. Instead, severn has been take over by the Fedora Project. You
> may continue to download severn betas at the usual places. As I write
> this, severn beta 2 (dated September 24) is trickling in to my
> computer.
>
> Fedora users also will see several major changes from Red Hat Linux.
> The first is more frequent, faster and more bleeding edge releases.
> Releases now will occur two to three time a year, instead of the old
> six-month plus release schedule Red Hat followed (see "History of
> Linux at Red Hat". As a result, Fedora will be more bleeding edge, but
> it also may be a little less stable. Product life also will be
> shorter; each Fedora release will have a product lifetime of about two
> or three months past the next release.
>
> This does not mean that Red Hat is disengaging from low-end Linux
> development. On the contrary: although Red Hat will maintain what they
> call "editorial control" over Fedora, they are seeking community
> involvement with Fedora for software development, integration, testing
> and documentation. In addition, many of the folks at Red Hat who have
> contributed to Red Hat Linux will continue to contribute to Fedora,
> with Red Hat's blessing. This is already clear from observing the
> traffic on the Fedora list. Red Hat, in fact, has considerable reasons
> to continue involvement in Fedora: Fedora will be a major source of
> new products to include in Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat's bread
> and butter. Red Hat is, however, disengaging from the day-to-day
> support and maintenance of Fedora. Both of those items will be handled
> by the Fedora community.
>
> For those accustomed to using Red Hat, Fedora offers several changes,
> including support for Debian apt style dependency checking. yum
> (Yellow dog Updater, Modified) also is included in beta 2. An
> apt-enabled version of RPM will be folded into severn. Indeed, the Red
> Hat Update Agent, up2date, now supports installing packages from your
> choice of apt and yum repositories as well as local directories.
> up2date now will handle dependencies and package obsolescence in the
> same way apt does. In addition, some packages previously offered that
> may have licensing issues have been removed from Fedora. Some of these
> are stored at apt/yum-enabled repositories outside the US.
>
> For those concerned with how the Fedora merger will affect Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux, Red Hat has put together a table comparing it with
> the Fedora Project.
>
> Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) and Red Hat Certified Technician
> (RHCT) training and certification will be affected by the Red
> Hat/Fedora merger, but the details of those effects are not settled
> yet. Fedora should be a useful learning tool for RHCE and RHCT
> candidates, although RHCE training may include RHEL-specific
> knowledge. RHCEs and RHCE candidates should monitor for details.
>
>
> Conclusion
> Fedora will be more bleeding edge and, therefore, possibly less stable
> and less secure than Red Hat Linux. That, plus the shorter product
> lifespan of releases almost mandate a user policy of "upgrade early
> and update often", to paraphrase W.C. Fields. Fortunately, the
> inclusion of apt, yum and other software to handle package
> dependencies will make such a policy easy for the Fedora user to
> implement.
>
> One thing I will do when using Fedora is develop kickstart files for
> my critical computers to allow fast and fairly painless new
> installations. Kickstart's post-installation script offers a great
> deal of flexibility when bringing configuration files over from
> previous installations.
>
> Red Hat is searching actively for community participation in the
> Fedora Project. This is your chance to give back to Red Hat some of
> the delightful contributions they have made to Linux and open source
> over the years.
>
> Charles Curley (www.charlescurley.com) has sagebrush, buffalo, hot
> springs, deer and archaeologists for neighbors.
>
>
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