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DATE 2003-10-28
FROM Michael Richardson
SUBJECT RE: [hangout] SCO Declares Total War on the GPL -- Says GPL Is No t Enforceable

When is SCO going to run for a political office? They have the mind set.

-----Original Message-----
From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:54 PM
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: [hangout] SCO Declares Total War on the GPL -- Says GPL Is Not
Enforceable



OK, here's an article sure to stir your blood...
Bottom line, SCO is saying the GPL is unconstitutional and cannot be
enforced.
Has anyone at the FSF responded to SCO?


SCO Declares Total War on the GPL -- Says GPL Is Not Enforceable
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031027193958740

Monday, October 27 2003 -at- 07:39 PM EST

Here's SCO's Reply to IBM's Amended Answer with Counterclaims.
The most significant thing they say is that the GPL isn't enforceable or
applicable, and in paragraph 16 that Linux is an unauthorized "version" of
UNIX:

"Denies the allegations of paragraph 16 and alleges that Linux is, in
actuality, an unauthorized version of UNIX that is structured, assembled and
designed to be technologically indistinguishable from UNIX, and practically
is distinguishable only in that Linux is a 'free' version of UNIX designed
to destroy proprietary operating system software."

I'm guessing you have a few words to say on that.

In their Sixth Affirmative Defense, they say:

"The General Public License ('GPL') is unenforceable, void and/or voidable,
and IBM's claims based thereon, or related thereto, are barred."

The Seventh Affirmative Defense adds:

"The GPL is selectively enforced by the Free Software Foundation such that
enforcement of the GPL by IBM or others is waived, estopped or otherwise
barred as a matter of equity."

The Eighth adds:

"The GPL violates the U.S. Constitution, together with copyright, antitrust
and export control laws, and IBM's claims based thereon, or related thereto,
are barred."

They forgot to add that the GPL causes cancer. It's also responsible for the
fires in California. And it's fattening.

If you care about the rest and are still listening, the other main things
they say are that they deny "that Novell sold only part of its UNIX assets"
and they deny "that IBM has any remaining rights under the referenced
agreements". They also say that Sequent acquired certain UNIX rights
pursuant to its own license agreements with AT&T "all of which IBM failed to
attach to its counterclaim" and they admit only that IBM "acquired the stock
of Sequent". This probably means IBM will say Sequent after they were bought
comes under their license and SCO will say no, they stay under the old ones.


SCO "denies the enforceability or applicability of the GPL" and says SCO
"may have" distributed the kernel and admits it distributed under the GPL.

Paragraph 42 is interesting. They say:

"SCO was unaware of IBM's Linux-related investment prior to its formal
announcements thereof, and further alleges that IBM secretly and improperly
failed to disclose to SCO such Linux-related investments and its intentions
with respect to Linux before and during Project Monterey."

So, our assignment, should we choose to accept it, is to find evidence on
this point.

Look at paragraph 55. They admit they sent the 1500 letters to "the world's
largest corporations" but deny the letters "threatened litigation".

In paragraphs 60 and 61, it acknowledges the existence of the Novell
letters, "but denies any legal or factual basis for the said" letters.

It admits revoking IBM's right to "further use, license or distribute AIX".
In paragraph 75, it admits it "licenses and distributes" UnixWare,
"OpenServer", "SCO Manager," and "Reliant HA", but "denies infringement".

In paragraph 79, they say that despite having terminated IBM's right to use,
license and distribute AIX, IBM is still bound by the AT&T Agreements and
Amendment X's confidentiality requirements, which "specifically continue
beyond termination".

Paragraph 120 is fascinating. They seem to be saying that not only did IBM
violate SCO's "contract and intellectual property rights" (um...yesterday it
was only contracts, wasn't it, according to SCO's Memorandum of Law?), but
that IBM's contributions to Linux were under the GPL, a license they say is
not applicable or enforceable.

In paragraph 122, they say IBM has no legal authority to place copyright
notices on "certain of its AIX and Dynix contributions to UNIX" so they plan
on fighting the legitimacy of IBM's copyright.

They go on to say that "IBM's purported copyright registrations are invalid
and/or IBM has violated copyright laws in respect to its claims alleged and
the claims based on, or related to, copyrights are barred." The Fifteenth
Affirmative Defense explains:

"On information and belief, one or more of the copyrights at issue is, or
may be, unenforceable by reason of IBM's inequitable conduct, acts or
omissions before the United States Patent and Trademark Office."

We all know how sloppy IBM's legal department has historically been, so this
claim is likely to be left standing at the end of the day. Mwahahahaha. Not.
And their *copyright* will be unenforceable because of their conduct at the
*Patent and Trademark Office*? That's a new one on me.

Then they say IBM may not be the owner of the four patents and that they are
in fact invalid, "for failure to comply with one of more requirements" of
the US Code, including Sections 101, 102, 103 and/or 112 of Title 35. Of
course, They failed to comply. The Big Blue guys don't forget to dot their
i's or cross their t's. There's too many of them, for one thing. This is
really ridiculous. It drones on some more about the patents not being valid.


Then it says IBM lacks standing to bring certain claims because they failed
to "join one or more parties needed for just adjudication of their
counterclaims, including, but not limited to the Free Software Foundation
and contributors to the Linux 2.4 and 2.5 kernels."

They want you in there, guys. May their wish come true. (Copyright
infringement dollar signs flash though my mind.) Then they ask for
"dismissal with prejudice" or a judgment in their favor, with attorneys'
fees and costs.

Right. Hold your breath, SCO. Please.

Well, folks, I guess it's true. They must really be trying to inspire IBM to
buy them out. I don't see any legal hope for SCO.

As for the GPL, it's total war.



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  98. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  99. 2003-10-07 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  100. 2003-10-07 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  101. 2003-10-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Viao is almost fixed
  102. 2003-10-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Product Liability Lawsuits Are New Threat to Microsoft
  103. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Viao is almost fixed
  104. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LDAP/Perl Expert-NJ Consulting Firm, United States, NJ, Bedminster
  105. 2003-10-07 From: "Mark S. Gold" <MARK-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  106. 2003-10-07 From: "Mark S. Gold" <MARK-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  107. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Developes Summit Scheduled for November 22-24, 2003
  108. 2003-10-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Network Computer: An opportunity for Linux
  109. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  110. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Pasha - I need your help with the GNOME Website
  111. 2003-10-07 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  112. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  113. 2003-10-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  114. 2003-10-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] DistroWatch Weekly, Issues 17 & 18 29 Sept 2003 & 06 Oct 2003
  115. 2003-10-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Moving Stuff from my house
  116. 2003-10-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Connecting a Printer to a VT100 Terminal
  117. 2003-10-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Educational Meetinng
  118. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EFF report on the DMCA
  119. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C Intro
  120. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C Intro
  121. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BTW Tech Night
  122. 2003-10-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Nite Moves to Saturday Night
  123. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft - One step closer
  124. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The IRS, RIAA, Time-Warner Cable, and the DMCA
  125. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FYI
  126. 2003-10-03 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  127. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Different 5 Boro Lugs
  128. 2003-10-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Different 5 Boro Lugs
  129. 2003-10-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Next Education Committee Meeting?
  130. 2003-10-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] PERL/DBI/UNIX/APACHE DEVELOPER (onsite), United States, nj, W.Paterson [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  131. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  132. 2003-10-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  133. 2003-10-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  134. 2003-10-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Great Package Management Experiment
  135. 2003-10-03 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce]
  136. 2003-10-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  137. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  138. 2003-10-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  139. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylug-talk] Microsoft for Partners: Sales Training - Competingwith Linux
  140. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Laptop Hard Drive replacements
  141. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Slackware Linux 9.1 has been released
  142. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Merrill to Sun: 'Cut and Focus' or Be Acquired
  143. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Merrill to Sun: 'Cut and Focus' or Be Acquired
  144. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  145. 2003-10-02 Luis Villa <louie-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  146. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  147. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  148. 2003-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  149. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Website designers & database programmers needed for new wireless initiative
  150. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Marcelrf-at-bellsouth.net: [nycwireless] Bush administration supports spectrum for unlicensed devices]
  151. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  152. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  153. 2003-10-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution and archiving
  154. 2003-10-02 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  155. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Taiwan gov't offers software code
  156. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] ESR: After Sun Goes Out
  157. 2003-10-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [dennis.bieling-at-epigenomics.com: Re: [Users] key creation]
  158. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
  159. 2003-10-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Foot in the Door for Open Source?
  160. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Rolls Out 64-bit Linux For PCs
  161. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Linux Cat in SuSE's Hat
  162. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Free Software Chamber of Commerce Meeting - Wednesday, Oct
  163. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout]
  164. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NYPC October General Meeting - Open Source: Beyond Linux
  165. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting - Wed October 08, 2003
  166. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Important information about Trustix
  167. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Fedora and Red Hat to Merge
  168. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SUSE Gets New Name, Logo Prior to New Product Release
  169. 2003-10-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] UN Summit Tones Down Open-Source Stance
  170. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Business which needs attention:
  171. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Patents and the Telephone
  172. 2003-10-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spammers using Digital Signatures
  173. 2003-10-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  174. 2003-10-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] (fwd) [tech-geeks] Microsoft VP admits openoffice as good as MS Office 97
  175. 2003-10-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) [tech-geeks] Microsoft VP admits openoffice as good as MS Office 97
  176. 2003-10-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Firm drops suit against grad's CD hack
  177. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [vlain-at-libero.it: Re: [Users] Article introducing VPN]
  178. 2003-10-16 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] NYC Transit
  179. 2003-10-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Inspector General for the DMCA.
  180. 2003-10-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Inspector General for the DMCA.
  181. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  182. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  183. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  184. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  185. 2003-10-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  186. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Logo
  187. 2003-10-15 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  188. 2003-10-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Flyer
  189. 2003-10-15 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <michael.l.richardson-at-verizon.net> Subject: [hangout] gnome flyers
  190. 2003-10-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  191. 2003-10-14 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Israel Slams the door on MS
  192. 2003-10-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SysV
  193. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SysV
  194. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  195. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Business which needs attention:
  196. 2003-10-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Board meeting
  197. 2003-10-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Muscle
  198. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME REGISTRATION :wq Embperl Error
  199. 2003-10-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Registration Page
  200. 2003-10-17 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Re: [hangout] NYC Transit
  201. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [SYates-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu: RE: GNOMES Meeting]
  202. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Senior mod_perl Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  203. 2003-10-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl / Mason / DBI - Software Engineer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  204. 2003-10-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement (fwd)
  205. 2003-10-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [miguel-at-ximian.com: Summit registration problem]
  206. 2003-10-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Drug Recall - No Joke
  207. 2003-10-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  208. 2003-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Arch Linux: A Better Distribution
  209. 2003-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Style: View from the Trenches: Alternative Package Sources
  210. 2003-10-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] suse network configuration
  211. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  212. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  213. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  214. 2003-10-20 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] suse network configuration
  215. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Got your voicemail ...]
  216. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Got your voicemail ...
  217. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BOARD MEETING TONIGHT
  218. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  219. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In other events this week
  220. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More other events this week
  221. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] And Yet More other events this week
  222. 2003-10-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [SYates-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu: RE: GNOMES Meeting]
  223. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  224. 2003-10-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  225. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] GNOME Summit 2003
  226. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  227. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  228. 2003-10-21 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  229. 2003-10-21 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Kings Games Help
  230. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  231. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: why is gtk install so difficult?
  232. 2003-10-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] City Council Meeting
  233. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  234. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  235. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  236. 2003-10-22 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  237. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  238. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl Developer for Web Applications (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  239. 2003-10-22 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  240. 2003-10-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  241. 2003-10-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  242. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  243. 2003-10-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  244. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  245. 2003-10-23 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com RE: [hangout] Reminder-Bookcase Delivery
  246. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  247. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: LinuxWorld New York 2004 .org Pavilion
  248. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit 2003 - Whitehead building or Library
  249. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FTAA draft is worse than we expected
  250. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: linux in NYC schools
  251. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [geoff-at-modperlcookbook.org: Re: [MEETING][TECHNICAL] Geoff Young on mod_perl]
  252. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Summary
  253. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Book Cases Arrived - Need to be built - perhaps tonight
  254. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Book Cases Arrived - Need to be built - perhaps tonight
  255. 2003-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FUD from Forbes
  256. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  257. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS possibilities
  258. 2003-10-23 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  259. 2003-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  260. 2003-10-23 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  261. 2003-10-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS PHONE
  262. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS PHONE
  263. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re: GNOME Summit]
  264. 2003-10-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re: GNOME Summit]
  265. 2003-10-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  266. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] For Mr Villari
  267. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  268. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Bookcases
  269. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  270. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Places to go for the Gnome conference.
  271. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  272. 2003-10-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  273. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bookcases
  274. 2003-10-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  275. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  276. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where the hell are my house keys
  277. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  278. 2003-10-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [license-violation-at-fsf.org: Re: [gnu.org #122161] [EInker-at-gam.com: RE: [hangout] FUD from Forbes]]
  279. 2003-10-24 Leslie Proctor <proctors-at-pacbell.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Summit
  280. 2003-10-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Three birds with one stone killed.
  281. 2003-10-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  282. 2003-10-25 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  283. 2003-10-25 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] CGI file Upload Question
  284. 2003-10-25 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Tech NIte Saturday Night]
  285. 2003-10-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrow
  286. 2003-10-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I've had it with Linux
  287. 2003-10-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IT jobs with Eckerds
  288. 2003-10-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I've had it with Linux
  289. 2003-10-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  290. 2003-10-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  291. 2003-10-27 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] [geoff-at-modperlcookbook.org: Re: [MEETING][TECHNICAL] Geoff Young on mod_perl]
  292. 2003-10-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: 10 cents a minute
  293. 2003-10-27 From: "michael howard" <h00man1-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] sunday technites ?
  294. 2003-10-27 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Mandrake 9.2 may kill LG CD-ROM drives
  295. 2003-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  296. 2003-10-28 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  297. 2003-10-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: www.nylxs.com unreachable from Spain
  298. 2003-10-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SCO Declares Total War on the GPL -- Says GPL Is No t Enforceable
  299. 2003-10-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] They just don't get it
  300. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl, Oracle, html/css (onsite), United States, MA / CT, Natick / New London]
  301. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open source riles software makers
  302. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bank tomorrow
  303. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  304. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Planning Meeting
  305. 2003-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Review: SUSE 9 Professional October 2003
  306. 2003-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Shark Tank - Open Source (The Hard Way)
  307. 2003-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] DVD in SUJSE
  308. 2003-10-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld registration now open - register today!] (fwd)
  309. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: thttpd (SuSE-SA:2003:044)]
  310. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA-Activists] Boucher: Exemptions Decision 'Misguided'
  311. 2003-10-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  312. 2003-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  313. 2003-10-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] My Viao is up and running completely - Horay
  314. 2003-10-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] xfmail
  315. 2003-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Come Visit Tomorrow
  316. 2003-10-23 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] Technite Saturday.
  317. 2003-10-23 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-jaal.org> FWD: [hangout] Re: opportunity
  318. 2003-10-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Fwd: IT: DMCA Exemption for censorware renewed!
  319. 2003-10-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] All the President's votes? (fwd)
  320. 2003-10-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Prosecutors Admit Error in Security Whisteblower
  321. 2003-10-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Newest Audio CD DRM Proves Ineffective (fwd)

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