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| DATE | 2004-01-27 |
| FROM | Adam Kosmin
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:15:32 -0500
From: Adam Kosmin
To: Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
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This looks bad. Although I did not hear Jay's original comments, I'm
dissapointed with the agenda I see below. Therefore, I pose this
question to the group:
What is the focus of the upcoming conference/expo?
If Open Source is the focus, I'll go my own way simply because I believe
that the Open Source campaign is doing great damage by bastardizing the
efforts of the Free Software movement.
If Free Sofware is the focus, then I will support it.
Adam Kosmin
Mike Richardson - (NYLXS: President) (miker-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
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"
"
" On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT wrote:
"
" >
" >
" > On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, John Bajana-Bacalle wrote:
" >
" > > * George Rosamond [20040125 22:49]:
" > > > jay:
" > > >
" > > > it's clear you've missed the entire point of this operation.
" > > >
" > > > i understand you walked in an hour and a half late into the meeting, but
" > > > we have collectively decided to proceed in a certain direction.
" > > >
" > > > if you and/or your organization are not on the same page and you'd
" > > > rather take you energies elsewhere, that's fine.
" > > >
" > > > we are planning to organize a technical conference for august 2005.
" > > >
" > > > it is not a debate about licensing, it's not a counter-cultural
" > > > gathering.
" > > >
" > > > what i gathered from the meeting, which i did attend in its entirety, is
" > > > that everyone understands that a large vacuum has been left with the
" > > > likely flights of linux expo and macworld. we are looking to fill that
" > > > gap, in the spirit of linuxtag, with an event that is weighed in the
" > > > direction of technical issues of the day and less towards marketing.
" > >
" > > George's description is accurate. We aim for a LinuxTag-like conference,
" > > a melange between a hacker conference and a marketing exposition, with
" > > the preponderous emphasis on hardcore tech. IOW, very much a la *BSD
" > > conferences throughout Europe and the rest of the world. Which is
" > > LinuxTag's aim, on which we are patterning this effort.
" > >
" > > John
" > >
" > > --
" > > John Bacalle
" > > jbacalle-at-nylug.org john-at-unixen.org
" > >
" > > > democracy is about a group working together with a common point. little
" > > > of your email has any connection to what has been collectively decided
" > > > by this group.
" > > >
" > > > g
" > > >
" > > >
" > > > ->I believe that we should aim at putting together a gathering
" > > > ->this year.
" > > > ->
" > > > ->We should invite MOUSE and PerScolas and various food and
" > > > ->ceramics and housing and music tribes and "coops" to join us.
" > > > ->
" > > > ->I believe the first gathering should have a limited number of
" > > > ->points of attack.
" > > > ->
" > > > ->Suggested points of attack:
" > > > ->
" > > > ->1. Government procurement rules, with special attention to
" > > > ->New York City Public Schools.
" > > > ->
" > > > ->2. Advantages of free software according to major cults:
" > > > -> a. Communist
" > > > -> b. Anarchist
" > > > -> c. Middle of the Road Classic Soft Rock
" > > > -> d. Puritan Extremist
" > > > -> e. FUNKDAFUNK
" > > > ->
" > > > ->3. Right to own and practical power to control the computers
" > > > ->in our houses.
" > > > ->
" > > > ->4. Radical respectability of all free software licenses,
" > > > ->except the BSD style licenses, which are nearly OUTRIGHT GIFT
" > > > ->DECLARATIONS and thus of such great power as to be dangerous.
" > > > ->
" > > > ->And we should not limit our new alliance to arranging our new
" > > > ->gathering.
" > > > ->
" > > > ->oo--JS.
" > > > ->_______________________________________________
" > > > ->Orgcom mailing list
" > > > ->Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org
" > > > ->->http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom
" > > > ->
" > > >
" > > > _______________________________________________
" > > > Orgcom mailing list
" > > > Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org
" > > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom
" > > _______________________________________________
" > > Orgcom mailing list
" > > Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org
" > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom
" > >
" >
"
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"Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
it is."
-- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
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