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MESSAGE
DATE 2004-01-16
FROM Michael Richardson
SUBJECT RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial

Enough no schoolyard meeting. Do not send or respond to each other for the
next few days.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:55 AM
To: Steve Milo
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial



Don't put words in my mouth. I never threatened you and only suggested
that we meet in person to deal with this like adults. We will do that.

Adam


Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" That was an interesting turn of events Adam.
"
" Here I was naive enough to think that I gave you my phone number so we
" could settle things. But instead you come out and threaten me
" continually, on the phone and through emails. Granted there is no proof
" and ofcourse for all everyone knows I'm the one stirring up the trouble.
"
" Youre right Adam, youre right I dont have the guts to stand up to you in
" person. I've done all the fighting I need to do in High School.
"
" Why not explain this for starters.
"
" " > " 'It's like inviting foreigners to
" " > " come over to the United States of America without
" " > " studying the Constitution!!!'
"
" Steve M
"
" >
" > Ok, I'll look forward to our meeting.
" >
" > Have a nice day,
" >
" > Adam
" >
" > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " I'll be doing something important later this afternoon.
" > "
" > " ----- Original Message -----
" > " From: Adam Kosmin
" > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:40 am
" > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
" > "
" > " >
" > " > I'll call later this afternoon. I'm doing something important now.
" > " >
" > " >
" > " >
" > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
"
" > " > "
" > " > "
" > " > "
" > " > " ----- Original Message -----
" > " > " From: Adam Kosmin
" > " > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:34 am
" > " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
" > " > "
" > " > " >
" > " > " > Got a phone number?
" > " > " >
" > " > " > Adam
" > " > " >
" > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " Insulting your ancestry?
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " 'It's like inviting foreigners to
" > " > " > " come over to the United States of America without
" > " > " > " studying the Constitution!!!'
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " What exactly does this mean Adam?
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > Just want to give you a chance to show me how much
" > " > conviction
" > " > " > you have
" > " > " > " > by insulting my ancestors to my face. You feel
" > threatened
" > " > by that?
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > Adam
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " Is that an indirect threat Adam?
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " ----- Original Message -----
" > " > " > " > " From: Adam Kosmin
" > " > " > " > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:18 am
" > " > " > " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > I'm looking forward to meeting you. When can we
" > " > arrange that?
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > Adam
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " > " Obviously a sign of a small mind, when someone
" > " > resorts
" > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > name
" > " > " > " > " > calling
" > " > " > " > " > " and insults.
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > Steve,
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > I've had enough of your spoon-fed crap. You're
" > " > " > obviously
" > " > " > " > an idiot.
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > Adam
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > more functional, but it is not good
" > enough
" > " > " > because
" > " > " > " > it
" > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > not
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > free
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > (as in
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > speech) and therefore, damages to our
" > " > " > society's
" > " > " > " > " > ability to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > collaborate,innovate, and protect our
" > privacy." > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " Actually, more functional is much more
" > than
" > " > good
" > " > " > " > enough,
" > " > " > " > " > if
" > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " more secure product is available from
" > " > Microsoft
" > " > " > then
" > " > " > " > by
" > " > " > " > " > all
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > means it
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " should be used.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > This is bullshit. This is exactly the kind
" > of
" > " > " > thinking
" > " > " > " > " > (common
" > " > " > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > peoplewho subscribe to the Open Source
" > " > philosophy)
" > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > threatens
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the adoption
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > of Free Software and (if not stopped) will
" > " > allow
" > " > " > " > Microsoft
" > " > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > build" > whatever toll gates they desire upon
" > the
" > " > " > virtual
" > " > " > " > " > roads
" > " > " > " > " > " > that we use to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > collaborate and communicate.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Hey, if I'm the 'common person' who
" > subscribes
" > " > to
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > Open
" > " > " > " > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > " > " > " philosphy thats sits fine with me. I know
" > just
" > " > a
" > " > " > little
" > " > " > " > " > more
" > " > " > " > " > " > than the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " common person though. Sounds like you
" > missed a
" > " > " > chance
" > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > convince this
" > " > " > " > " > " > " 'common person' of how to think.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Not because it isn't 'free'..as in
" > whatever.
" > " > But
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " because it does the job that is required
" > of
" > " > it.
" > " > " > If
" > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > Open
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " community can come along and create an
" > equal
" > " > or
" > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > product
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > then that
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " software has earned its positions.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Free as in whatever? How can you not
" > " > appreciate
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > freedoms
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > granted by
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the GPL? This stuff is critical and I'd
" > expect
" > " > " > anyone
" > " > " > " > " > " > subscribed
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > to this
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > list to be well versed in the benefits.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " I expect anyone who subscribes to this list
" > to
" > " > be
" > " > " > not
" > " > " > " > only
" > " > " > " > " > well
" > " > " > " > " > " > versed
" > " > " > " > " > " > " in the freedoms granted by the GPL. But to
" > also
" > " > " > have an
" > " > " > " > " > " > understanding
" > " > " > " > " > " > " of how the judicial and capitalist system of
" > " > this
" > " > " > " > country works.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > If we are talking about widgets then
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the only thing that MS or any other
" > " > proprietary
" > " > " > " > company
" > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > guilty of is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " defending their products secrets. They
" > " > haven't
" > " > " > " > " > infringed on
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > freedom of
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " speech, they are using freedom to persue
" > " > 'life
" > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > liberty'.
" > " > " > " > " > " > If
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > MS were
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " to go out and seek a court order to
" > silence
" > " > its
" > " > " > " > critics
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " infringing on freedom of speech. But as
" > far
" > " > as
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > widget
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > concerned,
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " MS has everyright to create its product,
" > " > they
" > " > " > can
" > " > " > " > run
" > " > " > " > " > around
" > " > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > let
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " their sales people tell you anything
" > they
" > " > want
" > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > get
" > " > " > " > " > their
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > product in
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " your hands.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > I don't blame Microsoft for wanting world
" > " > " > domination.
" > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > blame
" > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > idiotswho aren't bright enough to choose a
" > " > " > different
" > " > " > " > path
" > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > who
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > are so
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > obsessed with fulfilling their own selfish
" > " > short
" > " > " > term
" > " > " > " > " > agendas
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > despite the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > costs to innovation.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Yeah, its called the cost of convenience.
" > Many
" > " > " > " > company's
" > " > " > " > " > are
" > " > " > " > " > " > willing to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " shell out a few extra bucks for convenience.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " You missed another chance to convince this
" > " > 'idiot'
" > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > believe
" > " > " > " > " > " > otherwise."
" > " > " > " > " > " > " But you also missed a whole other point,
" > MS's
" > " > " > 'strength'
" > " > " > " > " > lies
" > " > " > " > " > " > not in its
" > " > " > " > " > " > " product but in its marketing.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > The fault is not with MS when a network
" > " > crashes
" > " > " > due to
" > " > " > " > a
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " virus, but the IT director who chose to
" > use
" > " > MS.
" > " > " > In
" > " > " > " > turn
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > compromising
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the security of their organizations
" > system.
" > " > No,
" > " > " > " > simply
" > " > " > " > " > " > because
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > MS is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " closed source is not a good enough
" > reason to
" > " > not
" > " > " > " > " > purchase
" > " > " > " > " > " > their
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > product
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " and anyone in this day and age will tell
" > you
" > " > that." > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > No one who understands and agrees with the
" > " > goals
" > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > Free
" > " > " > " > " > " > Software" > movement will tell me this crap.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Yeah, and for the rest of the world they
" > will
" > " > buy
" > " > " > what
" > " > " > " > they
" > " > " > " > " > " > think works.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Whether you realize it or not, your
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > statement and thinking has been fed to you
" > by
" > " > Open
" > " > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > " > friendly" > " > marketing departments. From where
" > I'm
" > " > " > sitting,
" > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > see that this
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > goingto be a HUGE problem going
" > forward.People
" > " > are
" > " > " > " > jumping
" > " > " > " > " > on
" > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Linuxbandwagon for all the wrong reasons.
" > It's
" > " > " > like
" > " > " > " > " > inviting
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > foreigners to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > come over to the United States of America
" > " > without
" > " > " > " > studying the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Constitution!!!
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Maybe you should tell your ancentry that
" > came
" > " > over
" > " > " > on
" > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > boat
" > " > " > " > " > " > to go
" > " > " > " > " > " > " back. Somehow I doubt they learned to
" > " > appreciate
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > Constitution
" > " > " > " > " > " > " before they hit these shores.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Either way your sending mixed messages. One
" > the
" > " > one
" > " > " > " > hand
" > " > " > " > " > you
" > " > " > " > " > " > want to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " close the borders off to any new comers,
" > which
" > " > by
" > " > " > itself
" > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > unAmerican.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " But on the other hand you state how anti
" > " > American
" > " > " > " > Microsoft
" > " > " > " > " > is,
" > " > " > " > " > " > an
" > " > " > " > " > " > " American company.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Still more hypcritical is how you preach
" > freedom
" > " > of
" > " > " > " > speech
" > " > " > " > " > but
" > " > " > " > " > " > you want
" > " > " > " > " > " > " to it cut off from people who dont agree
" > with
" > " > your
" > " > " > point
" > " > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > " > " > view. So am
" > " > " > " > " > " > " I to believe that freedom of speech applies
" > only
" > " > to
" > " > " > " > those
" > " > " > " > " > who
" > " > " > " > " > " > think like
" > " > " > " > " > " > " you? If thats true why dont we all just get
" > the
" > " > " > first
" > " > " > " > plane
" > " > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > North
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Korea, they will appreicate us there. Oh
" > and
" > " > that
" > " > " > " > should
" > " > " > " > " > " > satisfy your
" > " > " > " > " > " > " requirment for joining on the 'Linux
" > Bandwagon'
" > " > too,
" > " > " > " > they're
" > " > " > " > " > all
" > " > " > " > " > " > " elitists there also.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > The reasons to go
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " with Open Source is simply because its
" > " > better.
" > " > " > Its
" > " > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > on
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > price
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " point, its better on security, its
" > better on
" > " > " > " > " > maintenance,
" > " > " > " > " > " > its
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > better on
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " support. Simply put, GNU/Linux/Open
" > Source
" > " > is
" > " > " > just
" > " > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > for those
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " patriotic souls, is so very American.
" > Open
" > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > got
" > " > " > " > " > its
" > " > " > " > " > " > start
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > in this
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " country and is based on the same
" > principles
" > " > and
" > " > " > " > values
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > were
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > used
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " when this country was founded. But
" > using a
" > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > product
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > common
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " sense. If MS creates a better OS than
" > " > GNU/Linux
" > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > would
" > " > " > " > " > go
" > " > " > " > " > " > out
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > and buy
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " it. But it doesnt make a better OS, it
" > only
" > " > has
" > " > " > a
" > " > " > " > " > stronger
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > marketing
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " machine. The problem with the Open
" > Source
" > " > " > community
" > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > too
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > many
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " people are hung up pining away at how MS
" > is
" > " > bad.
" > " > " >
" > " > " > " > We're
" > " > " > " > " > " > focusing
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > on all
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the wrong points, the focus has to be
" > turned
" > " > " > away
" > " > " > " > from
" > " > " > " > " > MS
" > " > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > back onto
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " Linux. If MS makes a better product
" > thats
" > " > fine
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > problems
" > " > " > " > " > " > are
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " limitations imposed on reverse
" > engineering
" > " > for a
" > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > product.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > The
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " auto industry does it, the hardware
" > " > " > manufacterers do
" > " > " > " > it,
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > McDonalds does
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " it. Everyone reverse engineers, its a
" > " > normal
" > " > " > patter
" > " > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > " > " > critical
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " thinking. But the DMCA law doesnt allow
" > " > reverse
" > " > " > " > " > " > engineering,
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > not even
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " to *not* make a profit.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Obviously you know very little about the
" > " > history
" > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > Open
" > " > " > " > " > " > Source since
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > you seem to think that it even has one.
" > The
" > " > term
" > " > " > "Open
" > " > " > " > " > Source" is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > nothing more than a recently created buzz
" > term
" > " > to
" > " > " > sell
" > " > " > " > " > Free
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Software to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > people that don't have the capacity to
" > " > understand
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > moral
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > arguements of
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the Free Software movement. That's it! (if
" > you
" > " > " > didn't
" > " > " > " > get
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > last" > statement, read it over and over until
" > it
" > " > " > sinks in).
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Lets leave morals in the gutter where they
" > " > belong.
" > " > " > Get
" > " > " > " > off
" > " > " > " > " > your
" > " > " > " > " > " > high
" > " > " > " > " > " > " horse for a few moments. There are times
" > when
" > " > no
" > " > " > one
" > " > " > " > really
" > " > " > " > " > " > cares about
" > " > " > " > " > " > " your strong point of view peppered with
" > curse
" > " > words
" > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > indirect
" > " > " > " > " > " > " insults. It becomes tiring and annoying and
" > " > counter
" > " > " > " > productive." > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " As far as history goes, BSD seems to have
" > been
" > " > " > around
" > " > " > " > for
" > " > " > " > " > quite
" > " > " > " > " > " > a few
" > " > " > " > " > " > " years. GNU/Linux has been making some
" > pretty
" > " > strong
" > " > " > " > " > inroads.
" > " > " > " > " > " > As far as
" > " > " > " > " > " > " I can recall they're both Open Source..or
" > maybe
" > " > more
" > " > " > " > " > properly
" > " > " > " > " > " > open
" > " > " > " > " > " > " source. Dont bother correcting me, I'm not
" > " > " > interested
" > " > " > " > in
" > " > " > " > " > your
" > " > " > " > " > " > point of
" > " > " > " > " > " > " view peppered with inderect insults.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Adam Kosmin
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Overall you have made an interesting effort
" > to
" > " > " > pervert
" > " > " > " > what
" > " > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > " > was trying
" > " > " > " > " > " > " to say. You have managed to completely
" > mangle
" > " > " > anything
" > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > was
" > " > " > " > " > " > trying to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " say. While at the same time trying to
" > insult me
" > " > " > inderectly." > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > --
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in
" > at
" > " > " > least my
" > " > " > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court
" > " > through
" > " > " > " > enough
" > " > " > " > " > of our
" > " > " > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that
" > IBM
" > " > " > clearly
" > " > " > " > did
" > " > " > " > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into
" > Linux. We
" > " > " > just
" > " > " > " > don't
" > " > " > " > " > know
" > " > " > " > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > --
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at
" > " > least my
" > " > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court
" > through
" > " > " > enough
" > " > " > " > of our
" > " > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM
" > " > clearly
" > " > " > did
" > " > " > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We
" > " > just
" > " > " > don't
" > " > " > " > know
" > " > " > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > --
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at
" > least my
" > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through
" > " > enough
" > " > " > of our
" > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM
" > clearly
" > " > did
" > " > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We
" > just
" > " > don't
" > " > " > know
" > " > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > "
" > " > " >
" > " > " > --
" > " > " >
" > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
" > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through
" > enough
" > " > of our
" > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly
" > did
" > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just
" > don't
" > " > know
" > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " >
" > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " >
" > " > "
" > " > "
" > " >
" > " > --
" > " >
" > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
" > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough
" > of our
" > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did
" > " > contribute a
" > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't
" > know
" > " > whatit is."
" > " >
" > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " >
" > "
" > "
" >
" > --
" >
" > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
" > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
" > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did
" > contribute a
" > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know
" > whatit is."
" >
" > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" >
"
"

--

"Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
it is."

-- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
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  1. 2004-01-29 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] morning plans
  2. 2004-01-29 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Lake Placid
  3. 2004-01-29 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] morning plans
  4. 2004-01-29 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid
  5. 2004-01-29 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Lake Placid
  6. 2004-01-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Ride back from Lake Placid needed on Sunday
  7. 2004-01-29 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] A New Dawn is Arisin'
  8. 2004-01-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ten-at-gnome.org: Re[2]: Kings Games]
  9. 2004-01-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] A New Dawn is Arisin'
  10. 2004-01-28 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ride back from Lake Placid needed on Sunday
  11. 2004-01-28 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-copper.net> Subject: [hangout] Ride back from Lake Placid needed on Sunday
  12. 2004-01-28 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  13. 2004-01-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  14. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] travel plans
  15. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  16. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  17. 2004-01-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  18. 2004-01-27 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  19. 2004-01-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  20. 2004-01-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  21. 2004-01-27 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: RE: [hangout] travel plans
  22. 2004-01-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] travel plans
  23. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] travel plans
  24. 2004-01-27 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] travel plans
  25. 2004-01-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] travel plans
  26. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Upcoming New York City Council Technology in Government Hearings.
  27. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  28. 2004-01-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [freedom-it] Freedom-IT Expo Plans
  29. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fixed the boot problem on my G4
  30. 2004-01-26 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Fixed the boot problem on my G4
  31. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] travel plans
  32. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: on iwon.com news
  33. 2004-01-26 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  34. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What are Bayesain spam filters? and Re: [wwwac] The End of Spam as
  35. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another response to Jay
  36. 2004-01-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Response to Jay
  37. 2004-01-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Freedom-IT Expo Plans
  38. 2004-01-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  39. 2004-01-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  40. 2004-01-25 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] City Council Contacts
  41. 2004-01-25 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  42. 2004-01-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] City Council Contacts
  43. 2004-01-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LWE Replacement meeting today
  44. 2004-01-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Coble Bill, making FACTS "Intellectual Property", passed by committee!
  45. 2004-01-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite
  46. 2004-01-24 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite?
  47. 2004-01-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  48. 2004-01-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] van
  49. 2004-01-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Things to do on closing day for LWE.
  50. 2004-01-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  51. 2004-01-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] bring a baby to the expo
  52. 2004-01-22 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  53. 2004-01-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  54. 2004-01-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novel Meeting
  55. 2004-01-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  56. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wow - time passses ....
  57. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wow - time passses ....
  58. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Retreat to Lake Placid
  59. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  60. 2004-01-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: RE: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  61. 2004-01-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  62. 2004-01-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: RE: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  63. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  64. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Tuesday 20 January through Friday 23 January, 2004: Perl, LWE, K. Knopper at NYLUG, Gale Brewer at BOF, Howard Elmer at MuSIG
  65. 2004-01-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  66. 2004-01-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  67. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes
  68. 2004-01-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes
  69. 2004-01-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  70. 2004-01-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid Driving Directions
  71. 2004-01-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  72. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Cards
  73. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  74. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  75. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Tuesday 20 January through Friday 23 January, 2004: Perl, LWE, K. Knopper at NYLUG, Gale Brewer at BOF, Howard Elmer at MuSIG
  76. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Lodging in Lake Placid
  77. 2004-01-20 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  78. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  79. 2004-01-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes
  80. 2004-01-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  81. 2004-01-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  82. 2004-01-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  83. 2004-01-19 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  84. 2004-01-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  85. 2004-01-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  86. 2004-01-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  87. 2004-01-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrows Board Meeting
  88. 2004-01-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrows Board Meeting
  89. 2004-01-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tomorrows Board Meeting
  90. 2004-01-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  91. 2004-01-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  92. 2004-01-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flame war
  93. 2004-01-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] tech night
  94. 2004-01-17 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] tech night
  95. 2004-01-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] tech night
  96. 2004-01-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] tech night
  97. 2004-01-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flame war
  98. 2004-01-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] leeches=$(diff Free_Software Open_Source)
  99. 2004-01-17 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-copper.net> Subject: [hangout] Flame war
  100. 2004-01-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Selfishness...
  101. 2004-01-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] leeches=$(diff Free_Software Open_Source)
  102. 2004-01-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] leeches=$(diff Free_Software Open_Source)
  103. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fwd: Web Hosting
  104. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  105. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  106. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  107. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Keep it civil
  108. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  109. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] LDAP/Perl Expert-NJ Consulting Firm, United States, NJ, Bedminster]
  110. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [cudye-at-novell.com: NYC Event - Novell/SUSE/Ximian Presentation on Linux Initiatives]
  111. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] wireless access near javitts?
  112. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  113. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Why couldn't the Expo Overlap with a weekend?
  114. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Why couldn't the Expo Overlap with a weekend?
  115. 2004-01-16 From: "John Mullen" <john-at-mullensystems.com> Subject: [hangout] Why couldn't the Expo Overlap with a weekend?
  116. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] wireless access near javitts?
  117. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  118. 2004-01-16 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  119. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  120. 2004-01-16 psiegel-at-copper.net Subject: [hangout] Keep it civil
  121. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  122. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  123. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  124. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  125. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  126. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  127. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  128. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  129. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  130. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  131. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  132. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  133. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  134. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  135. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  136. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  137. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  138. 2004-01-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  139. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  140. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  141. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: Linux Kernel (SuSE-SA:2004:003) [thomas-at-suse.de]
  142. 2004-01-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  143. 2004-01-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Software Developer/Consultant (Perl/Unix/Sybase) (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  144. 2004-01-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  145. 2004-01-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting
  146. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Does Dell Support Linux? - MozillaQuest Magazine - Page 3 [wanderson-at-nac.net]
  147. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [EmperorLinux-Announce] See Linux Laptops with 54mbps 802.11g and swsusp at LWE [lincoln-at-EmperorLinux.com]
  148. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Software Developer/Consultant (Perl/Unix/Sybase) (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  149. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  150. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] movie
  151. 2004-01-14 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] movie
  152. 2004-01-14 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  153. 2004-01-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  154. 2004-01-14 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  155. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Classes Given by Fund for the City of New York
  156. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Classes Given by Fund for the City of New York
  157. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Project Leader - Production Support (onsite), United States, New York, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  158. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Perl Production Support (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  159. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Required PERL Expert for Lehman Brothers (onsite), United States, New York, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  160. 2004-01-13 From: "John Mullen" <john-at-mullensystems.com> Re: [hangout] re: review: SUSE 9.0
  161. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  162. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] re: review: SUSE 9.0
  163. 2004-01-13 From: "M. Halegua" <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Subject: [hangout] re: review: SUSE 9.0
  164. 2004-01-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Non-Profit status.
  165. 2004-01-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Estimate
  166. 2004-01-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  167. 2004-01-12 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  168. 2004-01-12 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] on craigslist a project opportunity
  169. 2004-01-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Adobe software on fedora?
  170. 2004-01-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Tuesday 13 January 2004 Lisp NYC: Meet and Eat and Drink at Blondies on the Island of the Manahattoes (fwd)
  171. 2004-01-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  172. 2004-01-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) Re: [tech-geeks] XP Home in Win2K Domain
  173. 2004-01-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Span Can Do bill?
  174. 2004-01-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  175. 2004-01-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Abode Photospho FBI Hooks
  176. 2004-01-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Hacking
  177. 2004-01-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  178. 2004-01-11 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] (OT) The State of Perl
  179. 2004-01-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [tech-geeks] XP Home in Win2K Domain
  180. 2004-01-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> iRe: [hangout] technight
  181. 2004-01-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  182. 2004-01-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FYI: Novell Unveils Ximian Desktop Update For SUSE Linux 9
  183. 2004-01-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  184. 2004-01-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [tech-geeks] 8th grader suspended for using "net send"
  185. 2004-01-10 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [NMLUG] Re: Better than Knoppix (fwd)
  186. 2004-01-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] technight
  187. 2004-01-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] modperl ecommerce template programmer (telecommute), United States, PA, Philadelphia]
  188. 2004-01-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 64bit MYSQL
  189. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite.
  190. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: RE: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'
  191. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] 64bit MYSQL
  192. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'
  193. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSF Seminars Explaining the GPL in NYC January 20, 21
  194. 2004-01-06 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] FYI: Novell Unveils Ximian Desktop Update For SUSE Linux 9
  195. 2004-01-06 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] FSF Seminars Explaining the GPL in NYC January 20, 21
  196. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Free Software Cost anal ysis by Microsoft
  197. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Woops -
  198. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Cost analysis by Microsoft
  199. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell - The Free SOftware Alternative
  200. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Applied Data Systems (ADS) Single Board Computers fu [fsalloum-at-applieddata.net]
  201. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 64bit MYSQL
  202. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Copyright Lawsuite against the RIAA
  203. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Copyright Lawsuite against the RIAA
  204. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Copyright Lawsuite against the RIAA
  205. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  206. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  207. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nat-at-ximian.com: Re: Summit wiki.]
  208. 2004-01-05 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] hostile corps, wdl?!
  209. 2004-01-05 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  210. 2004-01-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  211. 2004-01-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  212. 2004-01-05 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  213. 2004-01-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  214. 2004-01-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] 501c status.
  215. 2004-01-05 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Librarian
  216. 2004-01-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Librarian
  217. 2004-01-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  218. 2004-01-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Users] ANNOUNCE: Openswan 1.0.0 Released [ken-at-xelerance.com]
  219. 2004-01-04 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Services Opportunities
  220. 2004-01-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Toys
  221. 2004-01-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] 501c status.
  222. 2004-01-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Lake Placid Retreat the last weekend of January
  223. 2004-01-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid Retreat the last weekend of January
  224. 2004-01-29 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid
  225. 2004-01-27 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  226. 2004-01-26 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  227. 2004-01-20 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM denies moving to desktop Linux by 2005
  228. 2004-01-19 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] how did we miss this?
  229. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  230. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  231. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] Top 10 Open Source Tools for eActivism
  232. 2004-01-16 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] [TechForum] Fwd: Open Source Library Presentation
  233. 2004-01-16 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  234. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  235. 2004-01-15 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  236. 2004-01-14 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  237. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] DotGNU in Software Development Times
  238. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Has RealNetworks Violated the DMCA?

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