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DATE 2004-01-06
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Novell - The Free SOftware Alternative

http://www.eweek.com/print_article/0,3048,a=115502,00.asp


Is Novell Committed to Open Source?
January 5, 2004
By Jason Brooks
See Special Report: Novell's Linux Facelift With the acquisition of SuSE and Ximian, Novell has made a serious investment in the idea that a software company can make money without exclusively owning the code it sells. Novell now leads a number of important open-source projects, but its approach to licensing the proprietary software it controls will be the true test of the company's commitment to its new path.

Here's a recommendation for getting things off to a good start: Novell should set the Ximian Connector free. Ximian Connector for Microsoft Exchange is a piece of software that enables Evolution, Ximian's popular Linux and Unix groupware application, to function as a client for Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003. Alone among Ximian's product offerings, the Connector is distributed under a proprietary license. The software costs $69 per machine, it may not be modified and its source code is not publicly available.

It's not that the Connector isn't worth $69 a pop. Evolution, teamed with the Ximian Connector, is without question the simplest and best way for Linux users to access Exchange data. It's what I use with my own Exchange account. However, the Connector would be worth much more to Evolution users and to Novell as free software.

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The Connector is a good piece of software, but there has always been plenty of room for improvement. We recently reviewed the latest development release of Evolution, Version 1.5, in which offline support for IMAP mail has been improved. Meanwhile, I've been waiting to see support for offline mail with the Exchange Connector ever since the product first shipped. This is an absolute requirement for mobile users who depend on Exchange access on the road to even consider running Linux and Evolution.

PointerSee eWEEK Labs' review of Evolution 1.5.

The SuSE deal means that Novell is now in the business of selling desktop Linux to enterprise users. If Novell's Linux desktop could link users to their Exchange accounts without additional cost, Novell's desktop offering would be significantly more valuable.

It's true that by open sourcing the Connector, Novell would be helping rivals such as Apple, Red Hat and Sun. Each would be able to build convenient Exchange server access into their products. However, Novell would receive development help from these companies in return.

The mail applications from Apple and KDE are already able to access Exchange calendar data through the same Outlook Web Access-based route through which the Connector supports Exchange. With the Connector open sourced, Novell could expect to see development aid from both of these groups and others.

Next page: Why should Novell help Microsoft?

It's fair to ask why Novell should help Microsoft by making it easier for customers running Linux to choose Exchange over Novell's competing GroupWise product. Exchange is much more popular than GroupWise. This isn't going to change overnight, if ever, but plenty of opportunity remains here for Novell.

With Linux, Novell has a shot at winning some share of the client market, and there's considerable benefit to controlling the client?just ask Microsoft. By making Evolution a better overall client application, regardless of the back end, Novell would be getting its foot in the door, opening itself to the chance to sell Evolution users on migrations from Exchange to GroupWise or another Novell product without requiring any changes on the client side.

Recently, the GNOME project launched an open-source desktop "bounty hunt," with cash rewards up to $2,500 for the developer who comes up with code to solve collaboration and desktop integration problems for particular open-source applications (www.gnome.org/bounties). Evolution, which is free software, is the target of most of these bounty offers. None of the bounties relates to the closed-source Connector, nor could they.

The biggest benefit of open source for vendors and users is community participation. Novell's next moves will demonstrate whether the company's leaders recognize the true value of the position into which they've put themselves.

Senior Analyst Jason Brooks can be reached at jason_brooks-at-ziffdavis.com.


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  105. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  106. 2004-01-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
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  115. 2004-01-16 From: "John Mullen" <john-at-mullensystems.com> Subject: [hangout] Why couldn't the Expo Overlap with a weekend?
  116. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] wireless access near javitts?
  117. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  118. 2004-01-16 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  119. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  120. 2004-01-16 psiegel-at-copper.net Subject: [hangout] Keep it civil
  121. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  122. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  123. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  124. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  125. 2004-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  126. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  127. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  128. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  129. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  130. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  131. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  132. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  133. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  134. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  135. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  136. 2004-01-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  137. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  138. 2004-01-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  139. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  140. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  141. 2004-01-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: Linux Kernel (SuSE-SA:2004:003) [thomas-at-suse.de]
  142. 2004-01-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  143. 2004-01-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Software Developer/Consultant (Perl/Unix/Sybase) (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  144. 2004-01-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  145. 2004-01-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting
  146. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Does Dell Support Linux? - MozillaQuest Magazine - Page 3 [wanderson-at-nac.net]
  147. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [EmperorLinux-Announce] See Linux Laptops with 54mbps 802.11g and swsusp at LWE [lincoln-at-EmperorLinux.com]
  148. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Software Developer/Consultant (Perl/Unix/Sybase) (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  149. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  150. 2004-01-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] movie
  151. 2004-01-14 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] movie
  152. 2004-01-14 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  153. 2004-01-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  154. 2004-01-14 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  155. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Classes Given by Fund for the City of New York
  156. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Classes Given by Fund for the City of New York
  157. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Project Leader - Production Support (onsite), United States, New York, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  158. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Perl Production Support (onsite), United States, NY, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  159. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Required PERL Expert for Lehman Brothers (onsite), United States, New York, New York City [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  160. 2004-01-13 From: "John Mullen" <john-at-mullensystems.com> Re: [hangout] re: review: SUSE 9.0
  161. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  162. 2004-01-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] re: review: SUSE 9.0
  163. 2004-01-13 From: "M. Halegua" <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Subject: [hangout] re: review: SUSE 9.0
  164. 2004-01-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Non-Profit status.
  165. 2004-01-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Estimate
  166. 2004-01-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  167. 2004-01-12 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  168. 2004-01-12 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] on craigslist a project opportunity
  169. 2004-01-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Adobe software on fedora?
  170. 2004-01-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Tuesday 13 January 2004 Lisp NYC: Meet and Eat and Drink at Blondies on the Island of the Manahattoes (fwd)
  171. 2004-01-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Non FOSS and Fedora
  172. 2004-01-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) Re: [tech-geeks] XP Home in Win2K Domain
  173. 2004-01-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Span Can Do bill?
  174. 2004-01-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  175. 2004-01-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Abode Photospho FBI Hooks
  176. 2004-01-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Hacking
  177. 2004-01-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  178. 2004-01-11 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] (OT) The State of Perl
  179. 2004-01-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [tech-geeks] XP Home in Win2K Domain
  180. 2004-01-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> iRe: [hangout] technight
  181. 2004-01-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  182. 2004-01-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FYI: Novell Unveils Ximian Desktop Update For SUSE Linux 9
  183. 2004-01-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] technight
  184. 2004-01-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [tech-geeks] 8th grader suspended for using "net send"
  185. 2004-01-10 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [NMLUG] Re: Better than Knoppix (fwd)
  186. 2004-01-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] technight
  187. 2004-01-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] modperl ecommerce template programmer (telecommute), United States, PA, Philadelphia]
  188. 2004-01-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 64bit MYSQL
  189. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite.
  190. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: RE: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'
  191. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] 64bit MYSQL
  192. 2004-01-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Liquidator: 6,500 tech firms among 'walking dead'
  193. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSF Seminars Explaining the GPL in NYC January 20, 21
  194. 2004-01-06 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] FYI: Novell Unveils Ximian Desktop Update For SUSE Linux 9
  195. 2004-01-06 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] FSF Seminars Explaining the GPL in NYC January 20, 21
  196. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Free Software Cost anal ysis by Microsoft
  197. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Woops -
  198. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Cost analysis by Microsoft
  199. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell - The Free SOftware Alternative
  200. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Applied Data Systems (ADS) Single Board Computers fu [fsalloum-at-applieddata.net]
  201. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 64bit MYSQL
  202. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Copyright Lawsuite against the RIAA
  203. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Copyright Lawsuite against the RIAA
  204. 2004-01-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Copyright Lawsuite against the RIAA
  205. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  206. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  207. 2004-01-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nat-at-ximian.com: Re: Summit wiki.]
  208. 2004-01-05 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] hostile corps, wdl?!
  209. 2004-01-05 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  210. 2004-01-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  211. 2004-01-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  212. 2004-01-05 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  213. 2004-01-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I will be away for a few months...and looking for help in ICT policy
  214. 2004-01-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] 501c status.
  215. 2004-01-05 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Librarian
  216. 2004-01-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Librarian
  217. 2004-01-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test
  218. 2004-01-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Users] ANNOUNCE: Openswan 1.0.0 Released [ken-at-xelerance.com]
  219. 2004-01-04 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Services Opportunities
  220. 2004-01-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Toys
  221. 2004-01-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] 501c status.
  222. 2004-01-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Lake Placid Retreat the last weekend of January
  223. 2004-01-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid Retreat the last weekend of January
  224. 2004-01-29 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Lake Placid
  225. 2004-01-27 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  226. 2004-01-26 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] [OT] RMS talk in India
  227. 2004-01-20 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM denies moving to desktop Linux by 2005
  228. 2004-01-19 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] how did we miss this?
  229. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  230. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] possible talk topics at the retreat?
  231. 2004-01-18 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] Top 10 Open Source Tools for eActivism
  232. 2004-01-16 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] [TechForum] Fwd: Open Source Library Presentation
  233. 2004-01-16 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  234. 2004-01-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
  235. 2004-01-15 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  236. 2004-01-14 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [TechForum] re: Tech Position at EBC
  237. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] DotGNU in Software Development Times
  238. 2004-01-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Has RealNetworks Violated the DMCA?

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