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DATE 2004-03-11
FROM Michael Richardson
SUBJECT RE: [hangout] Army to Gates: Halt the free software
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-----Original Message-----
From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:31 AM
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: [hangout] Army to Gates: Halt the free software


Army to Gates: Halt the free software
Army to Gates: Halt the free software
By Ina Fried
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
http://news.com.com/2100-1012-5171976.html

Story last modified March 10, 2004, 4:00 AM PST

Microsoft has been mailing free copies of its pricey Office productivity
software to government employees, but CNET News.com has learned that at
least two federal agencies are warning recipients to return the gifts or
risk violating federal ethics policies.
Since the launch of Office 2003 last year, Microsoft has given out tens of
thousands of free copies of its flagship software, which retails for about
$500, to workers at its biggest customers. The giveaway was expanded to
government workers this year, but ethics offices at the Department of the
Interior and Department of Defense have said the offers constitute
unauthorized gifts and must be returned.

The Department of the Army went a step further, calling on Microsoft
Chairman Bill Gates to stop sending the software to Army personnel.

What's new:
As more and more governments around the world begin embracing open-source
software, Microsoft has started giving away its $500 Office program to
federal agencies in the United States.

Bottom line:

"We ask that you cease immediately the mailing of free software, and other
types of gifts, to the Department of the Army personnel," Deputy General
Counsel Matt Reres said in a Feb. 19 letter seen by CNET News.com. "Your
offer of free software places our employees and soldiers in jeopardy of
unknowingly committing a violation of the ethics rules and regulations to
which they have taken an oath to uphold."

The issue comes up as many governments are looking at open-source
alternatives for Office and the Windows operating system. The British
government has been evaluating a switch to the Linux OS, while open-source
software is also being eyed in Korea, China, India and even at some local
agencies in the United States.

Microsoft's giveaway also comes as the company faces ongoing oversight by
the Justice Department as part of its settlement of antitrust allegations.

A Microsoft representative said giving away the software is a way to let
some customers experience new features. "The goal of the program was to give
customers a taste of the software and allow them to learn how it might be of
use to their organizations in a positive way," Microsoft spokesman Keith
Hodson said.

Although Office has captured more than 90 percent of the market for
productivity software, convincing customers to upgrade to the latest
versions of Office has become a growing challenge for the company. And
upgrades are essential to Microsoft: Office and Windows produce
substantially all the company's profits.

To address ethical concerns, Microsoft includes a note with copies of the
software letting government workers know that they can send the software
back to Microsoft without charge if receiving such a gift violates their
agency's rules.

"Government Entities: Microsoft intends that this product be used in
accordance with applicable laws and regulations for the evaluation, use and
benefit of your government agency only," Microsoft states in the note. "You
may, at your discretion, return this product package to Microsoft at its
expense."

Hodson said the company hoped such language would allow any agency that did
not appreciate the offer to easily send back the software.

"Not every government organization, as we're learning, finds it to be a
valuable program," Hodson said. "We would like to think that there will be a
variety of government organizations that will find value in the program."

For now, Microsoft said it will continue the strategy but will stop sending
software to any particular agency that requests the company do so. The
software maker did not say how many copies of the program have been sent to
government employees.

According to the Department of Defense, delivery of the software was
preceded by a card explaining that Office would be arriving "in the coming
weeks" and that the software was being sent "without obligation."

The Defense Department's Standards of Conduct Office was among the first to
take action, warning its workers in a Feb. 13 advisory not to accept the
software.

"These items have been determined to be gifts from a prohibited source, and
may not be accepted by (Defense Department) employees," the agency said in
its advisory. "If received, the items should be returned to Microsoft."

The ethics office of the Department of the Interior said it had not heard
reports of its employees receiving the software, but decided last month to
warn its 65,000 workers after hearing about the Department of Defense's
reaction.

"We looked at it as a marketing gambit," said Arthur Gary, deputy director
of the Interior Department's ethics office. "We just wanted to apply the
gift rules to it."

The department, which oversees national parks and other federal lands,
concluded last month that the software constituted an unacceptable gift--one
valued at more than $20 and from a party with whom the department does
business or whom it regulates. Since issuing the memo, Gary said, the agency
has heard of at least one employee receiving the software.

"We just kind of wanted to spread the word," Gary said. "We want to head off
any problems."

If the response of those two government agencies is any indication of how
other departments will respond, Microsoft may back away from the program.

"Based on an overall response we receive from governments," Hodson said, "we
may look at doing things differently the next time."



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  108. 2004-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  109. 2004-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  110. 2004-03-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] New York City Contracts
  111. 2004-03-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  112. 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  113. 2004-03-17 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] PowerBook CDROM is very flakey
  114. 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  115. 2004-03-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  116. 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Luck of the Irish
  117. 2004-03-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New York City Contracts
  118. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  119. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  120. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  121. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  122. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  123. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  124. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  125. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com]
  126. 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com]
  127. 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  128. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  129. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] low balling
  130. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S
  131. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S
  132. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S USE
  133. 2004-03-18 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise.
  134. 2004-03-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise.
  135. 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise.
  136. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this.
  137. 2004-03-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Made a quantum leap
  138. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell News
  139. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of SUSE
  140. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Want to read something scary?
  141. 2004-03-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] You have to change this.
  142. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Mason Web software developer (onsite), United States, NY, Park Slope, Brooklyn]
  143. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nazgul-at-somewhere.com: Re: Embperl programmer needed]
  144. 2004-03-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints
  145. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints
  146. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints on this?
  147. 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections
  148. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  149. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  150. 2004-03-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  151. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  152. 2004-03-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Elections
  153. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  154. 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections
  155. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  156. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout management
  157. 2004-03-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this.
  158. 2004-03-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this.
  159. 2004-03-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints on this?
  160. 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections
  161. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Meeting Canceled until Saturday Night
  162. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: [DMCA_Discuss] New bill to veto Supreme Court decisions
  163. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Unsubscribe
  164. 2004-03-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  165. 2004-03-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] About the Great NYFU and NY Fairuse Flap in 20 years.
  166. 2004-03-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] An Advanced File System for Linux: JFS
  167. 2004-03-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Hello World
  168. 2004-03-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] An Advanced File System for Linux: JFS
  169. 2004-03-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  170. 2004-03-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Hello World
  171. 2004-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Jobs keep coming
  172. 2004-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Perl Jobs] Mid-Level Perl Programmer (onsite), United States, NY, New York
  173. 2004-03-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for T
  174. 2004-03-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  175. 2004-03-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] What Is New in SUSE LINUX 9.1 ?
  176. 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source and Free Software Conference To Be Held at University of
  177. 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  178. 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] What Is New in SUSE LINUX 9.1 ?
  179. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest review
  180. 2004-03-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  181. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  182. 2004-03-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  183. 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  184. 2004-03-24 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  185. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  186. 2004-03-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  187. 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest review
  188. 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Downtown Space
  189. 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  190. 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging David Sugar
  191. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  192. 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart and Sun share Linux desktop lust
  193. 2004-03-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D
  194. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D
  195. 2004-03-25 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D
  196. 2004-03-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D esktop Linux E valuations
  197. 2004-03-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  198. 2004-03-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Yankee Independently Pits Windows TCO vs. Linux TCO
  199. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed Desktop Linux E
  200. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP Move Could Change Microsoft Strategy
  201. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yankee Independently Pits Windows TCO vs. Linux TCO
  202. 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl/MySQL web developer (telecommute), United States, va, newport news
  203. 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday
  204. 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Java Deployment Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  205. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Made a quantum leap
  206. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was
  207. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] sound is very low
  208. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday
  209. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday
  210. 2004-03-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] A note to the Group
  211. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was "Re:made a
  212. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] sound is very low
  213. 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  214. 2004-03-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  215. 2004-03-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  216. 2004-03-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  217. 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was
  218. 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was
  219. 2004-03-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was "Re:made a quantum leap")
  220. 2004-03-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] A note to the Group
  221. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Off to Albany
  222. 2004-03-29 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] (no subject)
  223. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 48 Hours on Vacation and the WHOLE WORLD CHANGES - We now have 2 moons like Tattoon in Starwars
  224. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Week Article on Free Softwatre
  225. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft and DRM
  226. 2004-03-29 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Off to Albany
  227. 2004-03-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Off to Albany
  228. 2004-03-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  229. 2004-03-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  230. 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections
  231. 2004-03-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  232. 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections
  233. 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections
  234. 2004-03-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart sells PCs with Sun's Linux

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