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DATE 2004-03-22
FROM From: "Inker, Evan"
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] An Advanced File System for Linux: JFS

An Advanced File System for Linux
Demanded by enterprises and beneficial to everyone
March 16, 2004, http://www.linuxworld.com/story/44101.htm

Summary
As Linux made its way further into the enterprise, a key feature that it was
lacking at one point in time was a journaling file system. This was true in
1999, but today there are four journaling file systems that can solve
enterprise server requirements. This article focuses on one of them: JFS.

By Steve Best

As Linux made its way further into the enterprise, a key feature that it was
lacking at one point in time was a journaling file system. This was true in
1999, but today there are four journaling file systems that can solve
enterprise server requirements. This article focuses on one of them: JFS.

The file system is one of the most important parts of an operating system.
It stores and manages user data on disk drives and ensures that what's read
from storage is identical to what was originally written. In addition to
storing user data in files, the file system also creates and manages
information about files and about itself. Besides guaranteeing the integrity
of all that data, file systems are also expected to be extremely reliable
and have excellent performance.

Before the year 2000, Ext2 was the de facto file system for most Linux
machines; it was robust, reliable, and suitable for most deployments.
However, as Linux displaced Unix and other operating systems in more and
more large server and computing environments, Ext2 was pushed to its limits.
In fact, many now-common requirements - large hard-disk volumes, quick
recovery from crashes, high-performance I/O, and the need to store millions
of files representing terabytes of data - exceed the capabilities of Ext2.

Fortunately, a number of other Linux file systems pick up where Ext2 leaves
off. Indeed, Linux now offers four alternatives to Ext2: Ext3, JFS,
ReiserFS, and XFS. In addition to meeting some or all of the previously
mentioned requirements, each of these alternative file systems also supports
journaling, a feature certainly demanded by enterprises but beneficial to
anyone running Linux. A journaling file system can simplify restarts, reduce
fragmentation, and accelerate I/O. Better yet, journaling file systems make
fscks a thing of the past.

To better appreciate the benefits of file systems, it's helpful to speak the
vernacular of file systems.

Logical block (or a file system's block size): The smallest unit of storage
that can be allocated by the file system. A logical block is measured in
bytes, and it may take several blocks to store a single file.

Logical volume: One or more physical disks or some subset of the physical
disk space.

Block allocation: A method of allocating blocks in which the file system
allocates one block at a time. With this method, a pointer
to every block in a file is maintained and recorded. Ext2 uses block
allocation.

Extent: A large number of contiguous blocks. Each extent is described by a
triple, consisting of file offset, starting block number, and length. File
offset is the offset of the extent's first block from the beginning of the
file; starting block number is the first block in the extent; and length is
the number of blocks in the extent. Extents are allocated and tracked as a
single unit, meaning that a single pointer tracks a group of blocks. For
large files, extent allocation is a much more efficient technique than block
allocation. Figure 1 shows how extents are used.

File system metadata: The file system's internal data structures -
everything concerning a file except the actual data inside the file.
Metadata includes date and time stamps, ownership information, file access
permissions, other security information such as access control lists (if
they exist), the file's size, and the storage location or locations on disk.


Inode: Stores all the information about a file except the data itself. You
can think of an inode as a "bookkeeping" file for a file (indeed, an inode
is a structure that consumes blocks, too). An inode contains file
permissions, file types, and the number of links to the file. Every inode
has a unique inode number that distinguishes it from every other inode.

An extent is described by its block offset in the file, the location of the
first block in the extent, and the length of the extent. If file sample.txt
requires 18 blocks, and the file system is able to allocate one extent of
length 8, a second extent of length 5, and a third extent of length 5, the
file system would look something like Figure 1. The first extent has offset
0 (block A in the file), location 10, and length 8. The second extent has
offset 8 (block I), location 20, and length 5. The last extent has offset 13
(block N), location 35, and length 5.

How File Systems Go Bad

With these concepts in mind, here's what happens when a three-block file is
modified and grows to be a five-block file:
Two new blocks are allocated to hold the new data.
The file's inode is updated to record the new size of the file.
The actual data is written into the blocks.

As you can see, while writing data to a file appears to be a single atomic
operation, the actual process involves a number of steps (even more steps
than shown here if you consider all of the accounting required to remove the
two blocks from the free list of blocks and other metadata changes).

If all the steps to write a file are completed correctly (and this happens
most of the time), the file is saved successfully. However, if the process
is interrupted at any time (perhaps due to power failure or other system
failure), a non-journal file system can end up in an inconsistent state.
Corruption occurs because the logical operation of writing (or updating) a
file is actually a sequence of I/O, and the entire operation may not be
totally reflected on the media at any given point in time. A journaling file
system uses transactions to keep track of metadata changes. Transactions are
recorded in the log and during log replay a rollback to the last commit
point is used to place the file system into a consistent state.

Features of JFS

JFS for Linux is a file system based on IBM's JFS file system for OS/2 Warp
Server for e-business. Released as open source in early 2000 with a GPL
license and ported to Linux soon after, JFS is well suited for enterprise
environments. JFS uses many advanced techniques to boost performance,
provide for very large file systems, and, of course, journal changes to the
file system. Some of the features of JFS include:

Extent-based addressing structures: JFS uses extent-based addressing
structures, along with aggressive block allocation policies to produce
compact, efficient, and scalable structures for mapping logical offsets
within files to physical addresses on disk. This feature yields excellent
performance.

Dynamic inode allocation: JFS dynamically allocates space for disk inodes as
required, freeing the space when it is no longer required. This is a radical
improvement over Ext2, which reserves a fixed amount of space for disk
inodes at file system creation time. With dynamic inode allocation, users do
not have to estimate the maximum number of files and directories that a file
system will contain. Additionally, this feature decouples disk inodes from
fixed disk locations.

Directory organization: Two different directory organizations are provided:
one is used for small directories and the other for large directories. The
contents of a small directory (up to eight entries) are stored within the
directory's inode. This eliminates the need for separate directory block I/O
and the need to allocate separate storage. The contents of larger
directories are organized in a B+ tree keyed on name. B+ trees provide
faster directory lookup, insertion, and deletion capabilities when compared
to traditional unsorted directory organizations.

Online resizing: Allows the file system to grow while it is mounted. This
feature is used with a volume manager.

Online snapshot: Enables backing up an active file system. It provides an
online backup mechanism by creating a point-in-time image of the file
system. It helps eliminate the system being offline to require a consistent
backup. This feature is used with a volume manager.

No integrity mount option: Allows the file system to not journal file system
metadata changes. This feature can be used by a restore program to decrease
the restore time.

64-bits: JFS is a full 64-bit file system. All of the appropriate file
system structure fields are 64-bits in size. This allows JFS to support
large files and volumes.

There are other advanced features in JFS such as allocation groups (which
speeds file access times by maximizing locality). Two additional features
are extended attributes and Access Control Lists. To help understand the
Access Control List feature a discussion of Linux's file permissions is a
must, since Access Control Lists give a user a finer control of file
permissions.

If you've spent even a little time with a Linux system, you're probably
quite familiar with Linux's file permission scheme. In a nutshell, you may
read, write, or execute a file (or in the case of a directory, search the
directory) only if you have the proper permission. Furthermore, the
traditional Linux read, write, and execute permissions are distinct, and
each of those rights can be granted separately to the owner (a user) of the
file, to the group that owns the file, and to other, which represents users
other than the owner and users in the named group. Linux commands like
chmod, chown, and chgrp affect the permissions and change the owners of
files.

In general, Linux's simple permission scheme works well and is especially
effective when access rights align with the users and groups on the system.
But if you want to grant access rights to lists of users that do not belong
to an existing group, the system fails miserably. For example, if you want
to share one of your personal files, phones.txt, with every member of your
group, say, staff, you can grant that access with two commands: chown staff
phones.txt, and chmod g+r phones.txt. However, if you want to give read
access to friends.txt to Debbie and Bo, and read access to colleagues.txt to
Bo and Abby, you'd have to create two different groups with Bo in each one.
(Or, perhaps it's more accurate to say that your system administrator would
have to create the groups.)

More Flexibility with Fine-Grained Control
As you can see, managing permissions through "special interest groups" is
terribly inconvenient, and worse, it doesn't scale. A more flexible scheme
is Access Control Lists, or ACLs. Instead of capturing permissions in just a
few flags, ACLs record permissions in an individual and extensible list of
access rights that are attached to each file or directory. Access control
rights can be assigned to a specific user, a specific group, or to multiple
users or groups in any combination. In a sense, ACLs are like the

"Will Call" list at the hottest restaurant in town: if you're not on the
access control list, you don't get in.
Reusing the example above, if you want to give access to friends.txt to
Debbie and Bo, you simply grant read access to both users. No
(administrative) group is needed. Need to grant access to a third user?
Simply give that user the appropriate access rights. In a sense, ACLs
enhance security because ACLs can implement an access policy directly, even
if the policy is different for every file on the system.

ACLs can be used to build advanced system applications like Samba, which,
like its progenitor, Windows, requires ACLs. (For more information on how
Samba uses ACLs, see sidebar "ACL Support in Samba.") Let's see how Extended
Attributes work and how they can be used.

File Access Control Lists and Extended Attributes (EAs) are currently
supported by the Ext2, Ext3, JFS, ReiserFS, and XFS file systems. You've
already seen what an ACL is for; EAs are simply the underlying mechanism
used to record ACLs.

An EA consists of a name/value pair, and associates arbitrary pieces of file
metadata, or data about data, with a file or directory. EAs are not a part
of the file's data. Instead, EAs are maintained separately and automatically
managed by the file system.

More than one EA can be attached to a specific file or directory, and an EA
can store system objects (such as access control lists or the capabilities
of an executable) and user objects (such as the MIME type or character set
of a file). Applications can define and associate extended attributes with a
file object (remember, a directory is just a special file) through file
system function calls.

Extended attributes can be used to store almost anything. You can maintain a
file's history; categorize the contents of the file (such as text, icons,
bitmaps); record the version of the file; append additional data; or do all
of the above. For example, Figure 2 shows five extended attributes (Version,
File Type, Additional data, Install, and History) of fileA.

With EAs in place, ACLs are relatively easy to implement. An Access Control
Entry, or ACE, is an individual entry in an ACL. Each ACE is a triple
defined by an entry type, either group or user; a group name, username,
numeric UID, or numeric GID, depending on the value of the first field; and
the access permission or right (read, write, execute) associated with the
ACE. So, in the abstract, giving Debbie permission to read friends.txt means
that the ACL attached to friends.txt contains an ACE (user, Debbie, read).

Currently, ACLs are the only Linux feature dependent on EAs. Other operating
systems have had EAs for several years, and uses of EAs on those operating
systems are broader.

ACL Support in Samba
To make Samba as portable as possible, the designers of Samba decided
against a custom implementation of ACLs. Instead, each Samba server converts
NT ACL specifications (sent via MS-RPC) into a POSIX ACL, and then converts
that neutral ACL into an ACL that's platform-specific. A conceptual
illustration of Samba's ACL subsystem is shown below.

If the Samba server's underlying file system supports ACLs, and the POSIX
ACL can be converted to a native ACL, Windows users can manipulate
server-side ACLs on the Samba server using the common Windows NT commands.

Samba 2.2 included support for ACLs, but up until now, Samba has had no way
to store ACLs directly on the file system since there was no ACL support
available for Linux. That's no longer an issue, and Samba will preserve NTFS
ACLs rather than mapping ACL permissions to the less-flexible, standard Unix
permissions. (Windows NT and Windows 2000 use ACLs to set permissions on
files and directories. That scheme offers a much finer-grained control over
permissions than the traditional "one user, one group" solution that most
Unix systems use.)

Native ACL support, in combination with winbind, allows a Linux-based system
to "assimilate" Windows NT users, groups, and ACL permissions. Quite an
impressive solution!

Resources
Extended Attributes and Access Control Lists: http://acl.bestbits.at
JFS for Linux: http://oss.software.ibm.com/jfs
ReiserFS: www.namesys.com
XFS: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs
Samba: http://us1.samba.org/samba/samba.html



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  54. 2004-03-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Review: The Linare Home and Business PC
  55. 2004-03-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Review: The Linare Home and Business PC
  56. 2004-03-10 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Local Press on GNU/Linux
  57. 2004-03-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] k&r
  58. 2004-03-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Open source still faces open legal questions - BS
  59. 2004-03-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open source still faces open legal questions - BS Article of the Day
  60. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  61. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  62. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  63. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  64. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Study: Open-source databases going mainstream
  65. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Study: Open-source databases going mainstream
  66. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Berkeley Software Distribution operating systems have much to
  67. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Berkeley Software Distribution operating systems have much to
  68. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] XFree86 gets underwhelmed by Linux distro support / Suse 9.1 Due Out
  69. 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] XFree86 gets underwhelmed by Linux distro support / Suse 9.1 Due Out
  70. 2004-03-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MEETING ON Wednsday Evening
  71. 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting
  72. 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting
  73. 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting
  74. 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting
  75. 2004-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More LAke Placid Photos
  76. 2004-03-13 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004
  77. 2004-03-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004
  78. 2004-03-13 Josh Rabinowitz <joshr-at-joshr.com> Subject: [hangout] Using Perl with SWISH-E: Talk 3/16
  79. 2004-03-13 From: "ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night - Tonight
  80. 2004-03-13 From: "ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] tech night
  81. 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Wireless connection
  82. 2004-03-16 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] low balling
  83. 2004-03-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] low balling
  84. 2004-03-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PowerBook CDROM is very flakey
  85. 2004-03-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] FSF Event Philadelphia PA March 26, 2004
  86. 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) More Supporters of Digital Rights needed!
  87. 2004-03-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) More Supporters of Digital Rights needed!
  88. 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSF Event Philadelphia PA March 26, 2004
  89. 2004-03-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSF Event Philadelphia PA March 26, 2004
  90. 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Employment Opportunities - NYC Government
  91. 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Federal CIOs tout benefits of 'open source' software
  92. 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com]
  93. 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004
  94. 2004-03-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004
  95. 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004
  96. 2004-03-15 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004
  97. 2004-03-15 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004
  98. 2004-03-15 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) More Supporters of Digital Rights needed!
  99. 2004-03-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Court Opens Way to Claim the Public Domain
  100. 2004-03-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Fwd: [Patents] Halloween X
  101. 2004-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  102. 2004-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  103. 2004-03-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] New York City Contracts
  104. 2004-03-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  105. 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004
  106. 2004-03-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  107. 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  108. 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Luck of the Irish
  109. 2004-03-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New York City Contracts
  110. 2004-03-17 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] PowerBook CDROM is very flakey
  111. 2004-03-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  112. 2004-03-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart sells PCs with Sun's Linux
  113. 2004-03-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  114. 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections
  115. 2004-03-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  116. 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections
  117. 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections
  118. 2004-03-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Off to Albany
  119. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft and DRM
  120. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Week Article on Free Softwatre
  121. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Off to Albany
  122. 2004-03-29 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Off to Albany
  123. 2004-03-29 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] (no subject)
  124. 2004-03-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] A note to the Group
  125. 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 48 Hours on Vacation and the WHOLE WORLD CHANGES - We now have 2 moons like Tattoon in Starwars
  126. 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was
  127. 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was
  128. 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  129. 2004-03-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  130. 2004-03-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  131. 2004-03-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was "Re:made a quantum leap")
  132. 2004-03-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group
  133. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] sound is very low
  134. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] sound is very low
  135. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was
  136. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was "Re:made a
  137. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Made a quantum leap
  138. 2004-03-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] A note to the Group
  139. 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Java Deployment Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  140. 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl/MySQL web developer (telecommute), United States, va, newport news
  141. 2004-03-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D esktop Linux E valuations
  142. 2004-03-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  143. 2004-03-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Yankee Independently Pits Windows TCO vs. Linux TCO
  144. 2004-03-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D
  145. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yankee Independently Pits Windows TCO vs. Linux TCO
  146. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP Move Could Change Microsoft Strategy
  147. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D
  148. 2004-03-25 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D
  149. 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed Desktop Linux E
  150. 2004-03-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  151. 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  152. 2004-03-24 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  153. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  154. 2004-03-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  155. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
  156. 2004-03-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  157. 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Downtown Space
  158. 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging David Sugar
  159. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest review
  160. 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  161. 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart and Sun share Linux desktop lust
  162. 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome
  163. 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest review
  164. 2004-03-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  165. 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source and Free Software Conference To Be Held at University of
  166. 2004-03-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] What Is New in SUSE LINUX 9.1 ?
  167. 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] What Is New in SUSE LINUX 9.1 ?
  168. 2004-03-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for T
  169. 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  170. 2004-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Perl Jobs] Mid-Level Perl Programmer (onsite), United States, NY, New York
  171. 2004-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Jobs keep coming
  172. 2004-03-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Hello World
  173. 2004-03-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Hello World
  174. 2004-03-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] An Advanced File System for Linux: JFS
  175. 2004-03-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] An Advanced File System for Linux: JFS
  176. 2004-03-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today
  177. 2004-03-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] About the Great NYFU and NY Fairuse Flap in 20 years.
  178. 2004-03-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  179. 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections
  180. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  181. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  182. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout management
  183. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints on this?
  184. 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Meeting Canceled until Saturday Night
  185. 2004-03-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this.
  186. 2004-03-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections
  187. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  188. 2004-03-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Elections
  189. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  190. 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections
  191. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections
  192. 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections
  193. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Unsubscribe
  194. 2004-03-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints
  195. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: [DMCA_Discuss] New bill to veto Supreme Court decisions
  196. 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints
  197. 2004-03-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints on this?
  198. 2004-03-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this.
  199. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this.
  200. 2004-03-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] You have to change this.
  201. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] low balling
  202. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Mason Web software developer (onsite), United States, NY, Park Slope, Brooklyn]
  203. 2004-03-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Made a quantum leap
  204. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Want to read something scary?
  205. 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  206. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S
  207. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S
  208. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S USE
  209. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of SUSE
  210. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  211. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  212. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell News
  213. 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  214. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com]
  215. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux
  216. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  217. 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com]
  218. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  219. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  220. 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  221. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nazgul-at-somewhere.com: Re: Embperl programmer needed]
  222. 2004-03-18 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise.
  223. 2004-03-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise.
  224. 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise.
  225. 2004-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Overview of this afternoon's Orgcom meeting
  226. 2004-03-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Overview of this afternoon's Orgcom meeting
  227. 2004-03-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Orgcom] NEXT MEETING (3-28-04) [chand-at-chandeeland.org]
  228. 2004-03-15 From: "M. Halegua" <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [Orgcom] NEXT MEETING (3-28-04) [chand-at-chandeeland.org]
  229. 2004-03-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [Orgcom] NEXT MEETING (3-28-04) [chand-at-chandeeland.org]
  230. 2004-03-16 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Orgcom Report to NYLXS
  231. 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] Orgcom Report to NYLXS [phantom21-at-mindspring.com]
  232. 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday
  233. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday
  234. 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday

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