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| DATE | 2004-06-06 |
| FROM | Contrarian
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Old New I just want to get in the archives
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Sun Jun 6 06:12:47 2004 X-UIDL: 9o_!!/"o"!OHG"!UG["! Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id i56ACleU031581 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:12:47 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id i56ACl8Z031580 for hangout-desteny; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:12:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from bsd4.nyct.net (mail-out.nyct.net [216.139.141.2]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id i56ACi6E031571; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:12:44 -0400 Received: from bsd1.nyct.net (bsd1.nyct.net [216.139.147.7] (may be forged)) by bsd4.nyct.net (8.12.11/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i56AJDIw050191; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:19:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrba-at-nyct.net) Received: from localhost (adrba-at-localhost) by bsd1.nyct.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i56AJDtn098305; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:19:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bsd1.nyct.net: adrba owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Contrarian To: Ruben I Safir cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Old New I just want to get in the archives In-Reply-To: <20040606031831.A28598-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20040606061413.O97981-at-bsd1.nyct.net> References: <20040606031831.A28598-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Contrarian List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Keywords: X-UID: 33993 Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 2835 Lines: 82
There's one or two questions after the quotes.
> it's is controlled by a monopoly of Media Giants, or that the > libraries in the the world are going to locked up for the privileged few
I fear this also
> Rap Music, (which I hate) started in the basements of ghetto minorities, > on the street. Without the ability to tape Rap music, and distribute it > on cassette, which was the Rap media of choice in it's formative years > of the early 1980's, it would have never seen the light of day.
true
> When theaters of the near future abandon traditional film, which is > probably long overdue, for digital media, how is independent film makers > going to MAKE films that people can see without projectors. If you > don't have a legally acquired encryption key
A serious matter.
> civilized history is the development of the Printing Press, putting > inexpensive books in the hands of millions
Rather slowly by our standards. Many countries had "censor" offices,
> and the Internet, which > makes worldwide publishing and communication inexpensive and
I'd say greatest advance since printing.
> I have been one stupid dude over that last few years. I've watched > technology after technology destroyed over the last decade by the wishes > of media giants
Examples? I'm not arguing, I wonder what you have seen that I have not.
> current status quo, as it is being presented to the public by large > corporations, and the press, is actually a HINDRANCE to innovation and > freedom of thought.
> The Internet was an Accident of the Government
and academia, and it was not really thought to be significant.
> hundred people using a technology -email invented over 3 decades ago and > which came into the public mainstream only 2 years ago in a major way.
2 years? I'd say 6 to 8.
> Digital media has had to live with CDRW which is inferior to the Digital > audiotape killed as a consumer product in the mid eighties. And the > only computer system which can assure that people a free to innovate new > products and software, is being threatened to it's core by the DMCA.
Yes.
> All Intel has to do (and this is not to pick on Intel which I believe is > one of the better companies out their in terms of fairness), is to put > an encryption around the Bios of a computer which permits only licensed > OS's to run on it, and anything like a future Linux is dead before it > begins.
Yes.
> http://linuxtoday.com/stories/16556.html > > "What CSS lets the consortium do is determine who will make players, and > on what terms, and who will provide content. If you can neither enccrypt > or decrypt the bit stream, you are locked out of both markets.
Yes. ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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