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I certainly am. This is not going to go away. But I believe we'll reach a point where Windows and Linux desktops co-exist. It'll be a viable alternative not just to consumers but in all enterprises to make the decision between Linux and Windows," said Anderson in her interview with vnunet.com. Zultys introduces the ZIP 4x5, today’s IP communications solution for the office or remote worker. This SIP-based business phone integrates data switching and routing, VPN, NAT, firewall, Bluetooth, and analog connectivity to the PSTN. Project Penguin: Novell CIO Debra Anderson Talks to Vnunet.com Novell chief information officer (CIO) Debra Anderson was given the task of migrating all of the company's 6,000 staff from Microsoft Windows to Novell Linux on the desktop. In an exclusive interview with vnunet.com she details the project and the lessons it provided. How did you go about planning the migration at the start? Planning is most critical. We created a site called the "Open Zone," a one-stop shop for anything related to our "Open Desktop Initiative," our project name. >From that one site, staff can get training, downloads, communications [on] what we're doing, where we're at in the project. It's our second most frequently visited internal site. I sat one-to-one with each of the executive team, communicated what we wanted to accomplish in what timeframe, then lined them up with a call to action which they then passed to their staff. Then each of them nominated an advocate as our key contact in their organisations, and we created this big, virtual team. So, I'd say our second most critical thing was communication, rallying the leadership team on what we wanted to accomplish. We really had to lay out how to do this. I created a couple of key targets for the year. One was to move 90 percent of Novell to OpenOffice by 31 July. The second was 50 percent of Novell to Novell's Linux desktop by 31 October. Novell's Linux desktop is in a state of flux, so that presents additional problems, doesn't it? It does. We set those goals knowing the development cycle. The advantage to the OpenOffice move was that OpenOffice.org is already available [and] we were able to move Novell without moving their desktops and things that are more disruptive to the individual. That got every individual in Novell involved. They all had to do something by a certain date. My measurement of success for that goal is that every individual has OpenOffice, [and] all internal collaboration in Novell is happening with OpenOffice. What we did learn -- and it's an important part of why we're doing this -- is a view of impediments. We found that for certain functions for certain departments, there were reasons to still have active Microsoft Office usage. Application plug-ins is an example. Aren't they all moving to open source? But right now they're not there. So those applications assume an import or export function is into or out of [Microsoft] Excel. We've had years of history where Microsoft is the default. We [also] hit a few functional things we fed back to both Novell development and the open source community. One example: Calc, the OpenOffice equivalent to Excel, has a 32K limit on table size. I have functional users who can't live with that limit [so] are still using Excel. We have about an 87 percent active OpenOffice usage. I feel good about that. Although we didn't get to 90 percent, we accomplished what we were out to do. Now to the Linux desktop, the next goal. We have about 3,000 to 3,200 employees [out of 6,000] who've already implemented a Linux desktop, but various versions. We're taking regular revisions from our development team [and] many people went ahead and implemented SuSE Linux Enterprise Edition, a component of the Novell Linux desktop. We'll hit 50 percent by the end of October. We'll continue to learn as we do that. Have you got any further targets in that schedule? Are you going for 90 or 100 percent? Yes, a 100 percent target at the end of our second quarter, the end of April. So what are your biggest roadblocks? The personal, cultural change. That goes hand in hand with this kind of project. All CIOs have internal customers who adopt quickly and who adopt slowly. Did you need a training programme? [For] OpenOffice we were pleasantly surprised. It really wasn't that different. On the Web, we found quick reference materials [and] very good training materials. Then we started to create an FAQ [frequently asked questions] list. These are all on the portal site. We did offer formal training [but] we've had very few people take us up on it. [For] the Linux desktop, [it's] a little early to tell you. The Novell Linux desktop may have different colours than Microsoft, but it's got icons you click on and they open. Right now, I anticipate quick reference materials [and] FAQs. As we hear things, we'll communicate them back out. But I don't think we'll be sitting [users] down in a classroom even for an hour. What steps do you recommend to a reasonable-sized company thinking of migrating? Think seriously about that first move away from the Microsoft productivity suite to OpenOffice. Most corporations will make the move based on business targets. Certain customers don't use the full [Windows] features. They access maybe two to three business applications per day [and] live in those applications maybe the full day. There's no reason why, when they're going to do a refresh, they don't go for Linux. It's easy. It gets more difficult for the knowledge workers -- actually the majority in Novell -- that use all the features and functions of their equipment, includingwireless , all the productivity suites and a large set of applications. So I recommend to CIOs, and I have this discussion with many: think about your enterprise and think about easy targets. There's no reason why Linux and Windows machines can't co-exist in your company. [Then] they need leadership buy-in. For any desktop move in a company, the CIO can't just go: "We're doing this," without the buy-in of the business leadership. It's not just a once-only head-nod. I gather there's a lot of desktop interest. Could people become disillusioned through hurdles such as legacy applications? The reason it was so important that we experienced the "pain" internally [was] to figure out a set of viable options for any organisation making the move. So we can [now] recommend them to another CIO. CIOs in general are pretty risk-averse people. I certainly am. This is not going to go away. [But] I believe we'll reach a point where Windows and Linux desktops co-exist. It'll be a viable alternative not just to consumers but in all enterprises to make the decision [between] Linux and Windows. Are legacy applications on Windows the biggest potential problem? There are a variety of technologies that allow you to run Windows client-based applications on a Linux desktop. We've now defined, using our own enterprise applications, which of these technologies is appropriate for which kinds of business application. That's certainly work people must acknowledge they have to do to make the migration, but I don't think that's an impediment. [This is true] even when we talk about a Windows desktop migration from one version to the next, so it's not unique to Linux. How does the footprint of the Novell Linux desktop relate to Windows XP ? Much smaller; that's the nature of the OS. And equivalent documents are much smaller. It's just amazing. We're talking magnitudes such as one-tenth the size. Have you looked beyond the desktop project? We have a concurrent goal to double the presence of [server] Linux in our datacentre. We achieved a doubling of the Linux presence just by using the regular triggered events that you have in an I.T. department. Servers due to be replaced were replaced with SuSE Linux. -- NYLXS - New Yorks Free Software Scene ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc 2004-09-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New York Linux Scene (fwd) 2004-09-30 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: [fairuse-talk] MS FAT Patent Overruled by USPTO 2004-09-30 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Is there a meeting tonight? 2004-09-30 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] FW: MANDATORY MILITARY DRAFT 2005 2004-09-30 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FW: MANDATORY MILITARY DRAFT 2005 2004-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Desktop News 2004-09-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jounal Committee Meeting Tomorrow 2004-09-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Munich Update 2004-09-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Stratergies 2004-09-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-28 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: MANDATORY MILITARY DRAFT 2005 2004-09-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Only two weeks to go --- Register Now] (fwd) 2004-09-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] (fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 554-1] New sendmail packages fix 2004-09-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 554-1] New sendmail packages fix potential open relay 2004-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Paging Rob M 2004-09-27 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] High-tech job market lost 400,000 jobs 2004-09-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Paging Rob M 2004-09-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Paging Rob M 2004-09-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) [SECURITY] [DSA 554-1] New sendmail packages fix potential open relay 2004-09-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SpamAssassin dccproc 2004-09-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [Politics] FW: Interesting approach to stress] 2004-09-26 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Computer crash forces cancled flights. 2004-09-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments 2004-09-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] UID weirdness 2004-09-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] UID weirdness 2004-09-25 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] NY Judge Repudiates Live Music Bootleg Law (fwd) 2004-09-25 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [Politics] FW: Interesting approach to stress] (fwd) 2004-09-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] UID weirdness 2004-09-24 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-24 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-24 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS sues spammers webhosters. 2004-09-24 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] MS sues spammers webhosters. 2004-09-24 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] First Amendment Defense Fails in DVD Copy Control 2004-09-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SpamAssassin sports new open-source license 2004-09-23 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-23 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SpamAssassin sports new open-source license 2004-09-22 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell recruit MS talent for GNU/Linux marketing 2004-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sun Open Source stratergy of the day 2004-09-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-22 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spamassassin Weak Points 2004-09-22 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-22 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-22 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 akbar <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-22 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Microsoft software implicated in air traffic shutdo 2004-09-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft software implicated in air traffic shutdown 2004-09-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Free 96-page report details benefits of Open Source software 2004-09-22 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System 2004-09-22 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Windows on Warships 2004-09-22 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Paging David Sugar 2004-09-22 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Spamassasin really sucks 2004-09-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging David Sugar 2004-09-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: C3 EXPO Launched - New Computing Event for Corporate & Channel 2004-09-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Sun denies report it is 'selling out' OpenOffice 2004-09-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenOffice: A legal Trojan horse--but for whom? 2004-09-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting Report 2004-09-21 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What is wrong with this picture? 2004-09-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-21 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-21 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Ent9 Server & YOU 2004-09-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting 2004-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA stuff 2004-09-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hang on to your seatbelts. 2004-09-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hang on to your seatbelts. 2004-09-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] VectorLinux 4.3 Has Arrived! 2004-09-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] L'Shana Tova Tikasayvu (Happy Jewish New Year!) 2004-09-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] SuSE Tech Kit 2004-09-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] meeting 2004-09-20 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] meeting 2004-09-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Hang on to your seatbelts. 2004-09-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Oppurtunity for the Ready Free Software Enterprise Desktop 2004-09-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hang on to your seatbelts. 2004-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Big Oppurtunity for the Ready Free Software Enterprise Desktop 2004-09-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sun reports Wall Street sick of Free Software :( 2004-09-19 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Sun reports Wall Street sick of Free Software :( 2004-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sun reports Wall Street sick of Free Software :( 2004-09-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] To be young and lost 2004-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] To be young and lost 2004-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Sun reports Wall Street sick of Free Software :( 2004-09-18 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] Sun reports Wall Street sick of Free Software :( 2004-09-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sun reports Wall Street sick of Free Software :( 2004-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sun reports Wall Street sick of Free Software :( 2004-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MYSQL News 2004-09-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Economist mag 2004-09-17 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Tech Kit 2004-09-17 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Google & Non-Profit Orgs 2004-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs 2004-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More jobs 2004-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs 2004-09-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting 2004-09-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] meeting 2004-09-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] meeting 2004-09-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] meeting 2004-09-14 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Novell sees a 'both-source' future 2004-09-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] meeting 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell sees a 'both-source' future 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell sees a 'both-source' future 2004-09-13 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Novell sees a 'both-source' future 2004-09-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell 2004-09-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Novell sees a 'both-source' future 2004-09-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Novell sees a 'both-source' future 2004-09-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell sees a 'both-source' future 2004-09-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] "Linux Backers to Support Standard" 2004-09-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Malware Writers Using Open-Source Tactics 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Web Site Redesign 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Web Site Redesign 2004-09-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn Tech Servers 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Educational Institution in Need 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Please Handle this first contact... Thanx 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I am a man, and you are a woman 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jobs4.2 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jobs4.0 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs3.8 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jobs3.5 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jobs3.3 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jobs3.1 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jobs2.5 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Jobs2 2004-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs 2004-09-12 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> RE: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer 2004-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] gnomemeeting 2004-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Astoria Queens LUG building 2004-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educational Institution in Need 2004-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Volunteer needed urgently in Brooklyn 2004-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] INDUCE: Copyright Office Recommended Statutory Language 2004-09-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Business in New York 2004-09-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Paranoia-dev] valgrind 2004-09-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Asian Spam - Die Now 2004-09-09 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Distributed Search Company Sues RIAA over Patent 2004-09-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] I have no functional gas according to dosemu 2004-09-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] binutils 2004-09-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] DOSEMU for PPC 2004-09-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer 2004-09-09 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: two dimensional arrays passed to functions 2004-09-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Novell/SuSE offer 2004-09-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C programming: 2d Arrays 2004-09-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I have no functional gas according to dosemu 2004-09-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Binutils disregard previous email 2004-09-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I have no functional gas according to dosemu 2004-09-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Binutils disregard previous email 2004-09-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] binutils 2004-09-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] BSCP 2004-09-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Binutil 2004-09-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Good Morning 2004-09-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Binutil 2004-09-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Binutil 2004-09-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [reply-c9f4-1808-2f6b114cd7-at-nl.internet.com: Your Linux Today Security Letter for September 8, 2004] 2004-09-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Sybase releases free Express database for Linux 2004-09-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Binutil 2004-09-08 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Binutil 2004-09-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Binutil 2004-09-08 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Binutil 2004-09-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Good Morning 2004-09-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Whippersnapper whistle-blowers beware 2004-09-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Whistle-blowers form a breed apart 2004-09-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Windows on Warships 2004-09-07 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Windows on Warships 2004-09-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows on Warships 2004-09-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows on Warships 2004-09-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Windows on Warships 2004-09-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Printing from Suse 9.1 2004-09-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Printing from Suse 9.1 2004-09-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Printing from Suse 9.1 2004-09-07 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Printing from Suse 9.1 2004-09-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Printing from Suse 9.1 2004-09-07 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Windows on Warships 2004-09-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Segfault in mysql_real_escape_string 2004-09-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Registers 2004-09-05 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Registers 2004-09-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] strmov 2004-09-05 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Registers 2004-09-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Outing. 2004-09-05 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Outing. 2004-09-05 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Help needed with MySQL C API-based client (segfault) 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What is the Linux equivalent to debug. 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Serge 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS Outing. 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Outing. 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Outing. 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MYSQL and C 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Enterprise Server Suse 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-04 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-03 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-03 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-03 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Quite unbeleivable 2004-09-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Quite unbeleivable 2004-09-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Adjusting font sizes and video alignment in Suse 9.1 2004-09-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? Was RE: [NMLUG] Re:Linux Advocacy FAQ is NOT Linux Advocacy Maxim (RobertDelahunt) (Daniel Lark) 2004-09-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!? 2004-09-02 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Kerberos Holes Could Bring Serious Exploits (3 Articles Worth Rea 2004-09-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekend Activities 2004-09-01 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [NMLUG] Re: Linux Advocacy FAQ is NOT Linux Advocacy Maxim 2004-09-01 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] freedom-it 2004-09-01 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Xybernaut adds Linux as an OS option 2004-09-01 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Oklahoma non-profit finds open source OK 2004-09-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly 2004-09-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Assembly NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! 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