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DATE	2004-06-26
FROM	Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT	Re: [hangout] Mac OS X security myth exposed
From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Sat Jun 26 22:57:08 2004 X-UIDL: Q'-"!4:+!!$E"#!XHR!! Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id i5R2v7iw006070 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:57:07 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id i5R2v7d4006069 for hangout-desteny; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:57:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id i5R2v2kC006064; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:57:02 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id i5R2v2XV006063; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:57:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:57:02 -0400 From: Ruben I Safir To: EInker-at-gam.com Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Mac OS X security myth exposed Message-ID: <20040626225702.A5893-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <386AEEE1B7BAC34CB4DDF394C23492785F50DB-at-w2cs-nyk02.gam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <386AEEE1B7BAC34CB4DDF394C23492785F50DB-at-w2cs-nyk02.gam.com>; from EInker-at-gam.com on Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 14:18:09 -0400 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ruben I Safir List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37131 Status: RO Content-Length: 1867 Lines: 38 <<relatively secure operating system is unwarranted, Secunia said. This year and last year Secunia tallied 36 advisories on security issues with the software, many of them allowing attackers to remotely take over the system - comparable to figures on operating systems such as Windows XP Professional and Red Hat Enterprise Server.>>> Not to defend Mac OS X, but this is not a measureent of security. Measurement of security is a qualitative and quantitative measurement. One would need to measure the number of *actual* exploits, ie: Computers which have been hacked into, and some measurement of the kind of damage which was done. Measuring the number of security alerts only MEASURES THE ALERTNESS OF THE OS'S DESIGNERS to security. This measurement has to, with out a doubt, make teams more concerned about security look less secure. Sure, there is no security announcments for Windows, MS WAITS until the security holes are exploited and flood the damn internet with viruses. Ruben -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc