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Linux wins another city over Windows
Bergen, Norway, is consolidating older servers on SUSE Linux Enterprise
Server 8
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,93865,00.
html?nas=AM-93865
News Story by Matthew Broersma
JUNE 16, 2004 (TECHWORLD.COM) - Linux has won another battle against
proprietary software with a decision yesterday by the city of Bergen, the
second-largest city in Norway, to consolidate older Windows and Unix servers
on Novell Inc.'s SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 8.
The deal was announced shortly after the German city of Munich finished a
yearlong decision-making process that will see 14,000 desktops switched from
Windows to Linux, a move that some have called the "poster child" for
desktop Linux.
Bergen's plan doesn't involve desktops and thus poses less of a potential
threat to Microsoft. However, the shift will affect 50,000 users and is
expected to deliver immediate cost savings by drastically reducing the
complexity of the city's IT systems, according to Bergen's chief technology
officer, Ole Bjoern Tuftedal.
Linux is increasingly popular in enterprises, where many industry observers
believe it will ultimately replace Unix. Unlike Unix, which traditionally
was used on proprietary processors designed for a particular flavor of the
operating system, Linux distributions are largely interchangeable and
normally run on commodity hardware from Intel Corp. or Advanced Micro
Devices Inc. Linux competes with Windows in the Unix-replacement market and
has the potential to compete with Windows on business desktops, particularly
for terminals running a fixed set of applications, such as in call centers.
Recent figures from research firm IDC showed that Linux server unit
shipments grew 46.4% in the first quarter of this year over the same quarter
last year, compared with 26.5% for Windows server shipments.
Novell, along with competitors such as IBM and Hewlett-Packard Co., sees
Linux as a way of allowing customers to standardize on a single low-cost,
nonproprietary platform, migrating from a hodgepodge of systems to
Linux-based clusters or mainframes. "You need one operating system to do
that. What we have is an important initiative to help customers to add Linux
to their infrastructure," said Richard Seibt, president of Novell's Europe,
Middle East and Africa operations, in a recent interview.
The Bergen arrangement will put these Linux arguments to the test.
Initially, 20 Oracle database servers running on HP-UX, HP's version of
Unix, will be replaced with around 10 SUSE servers on Itanium-based HP
Integrity servers. In a second phase, the city plans to consolidate more
than 100 application servers used in schools around the city into a
centralized set of 20 IBM eServer blades running Linux.
Once the database servers are shifted over -- a move that will affect all
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payoff, Tuftedal said.
The city said keeping costs down was an important factor in its choice of
Linux over Unix or Windows, something that will resonate with many
enterprise customers. "In addition to the IT-based benefits from migration
to Linux, we attain a business model that doesn't tie us to a single
vendor's solution architecture," said Bergen's CIO, Janicke Runshaug Foss,
in a statement.
The rollout is expected to be completed by the end of this year.
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 02:18:30PM -0500, Steve Milo wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:08:20 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote
> > Maybe you can program it using the keyboard (like we used to do with
> > the TRS-80) ;-}
>
> I probably wouldnt need that if I knew how to navigate open firmware.
All you need to know is the theme song....
http://bananajr6000.apple.com/1275/misc/ofwsong.au
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From: Billy
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Subject: Re: [hangout] YDL progress (or lack thereof).
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On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:53:14PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:43:39PM -0500, Steve Milo wrote:
> > > So anyone who hasnt seen the guts of a PG G4 may want to stop by.
> It means it's a Mac.
Well no shit it's a Mac! I gather that the designation 'PG' means
something much more specific, and I was asking him about that.
"Pretty Good"?
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Meant to type PB.
PowerBook
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:53:14 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote
> It means it's a Mac.
>
> --
> "In The Business World
> An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
>
> No one person is smarter than their team!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Billy [mailto:billy-at-dadadada.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:46 PM
> > To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: Re: [hangout] YDL progress (or lack thereof).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:43:39PM -0500, Steve Milo wrote:
> > > So anyone who hasnt seen the guts of a PG G4 may want to stop by.
> >
> > What's 'PG' mean?
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Meant to type PB.
PowerBook
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:53:14 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote
> It means it's a Mac.
>
> --
> "In The Business World
> An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
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> And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
>
> No one person is smarter than their team!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Billy [mailto:billy-at-dadadada.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:46 PM
> > To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: Re: [hangout] YDL progress (or lack thereof).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:43:39PM -0500, Steve Milo wrote:
> > > So anyone who hasnt seen the guts of a PG G4 may want to stop by.
> >
> > What's 'PG' mean?
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I probably wouldnt need that if I knew how to navigate open firmware.
Steve
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:08:20 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote
> Maybe you can program it using the keyboard (like we used to do with
> the TRS-80) ;-}
>
> --
> "In The Business World
> An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
>
> No one person is smarter than their team!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Milo [mailto:slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:44 PM
> > To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: [hangout] YDL progress (or lack thereof).
> >
> >
> > Thanks to all who extended their help.
> >
> > Bottom line is I cant install YDL on the machine again because the drive
> > is flakey. I'm running OSX on
> > it for now, which is part of the problem. My intent was to upgrade from
> > 3.0->3.0.1 YDL. But
> > anything other than OSX CD's and DVD's fails.
> >
> > However something I negelected to mention a previously was that I was
> > able to install YDL 3.0.1
> > about 2/3rds of the way. Perhaps I can finish the install the rest of
> > the way from OSX?
> >
> > Anyway, this is probably going to be a topic for techinte. I would like
> > to get started early because I'm
> > eager to get this thing running at full steam again. I may possibly
> > remove the CD drive and
> > disassemble it on Sunday. So anyone who hasnt seen the guts of a PG G4
> > may want to stop by.
> >
> > Steve
> >
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From jfg205-at-nyu.edu Wed Jun 16 16:04:53 2004
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Hey Ruben,
I think we should meet sometime soon to talk about a curriculum for the
Unix 1 class. I'll have some time on Saturday during the day or next
Tuesday. Let me know when would be good for you.
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From: "Steve Milo"
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Subject: [hangout] YDL progress (or lack thereof).
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:43:39 -0500
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Thanks to all who extended their help.
Bottom line is I cant install YDL on the machine again because the drive is flakey. I'm running OSX on
it for now, which is part of the problem. My intent was to upgrade from 3.0->3.0.1 YDL. But
anything other than OSX CD's and DVD's fails.
However something I negelected to mention a previously was that I was able to install YDL 3.0.1
about 2/3rds of the way. Perhaps I can finish the install the rest of the way from OSX?
Anyway, this is probably going to be a topic for techinte. I would like to get started early because I'm
eager to get this thing running at full steam again. I may possibly remove the CD drive and
disassemble it on Sunday. So anyone who hasnt seen the guts of a PG G4 may want to stop by.
Steve
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