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DATE 2005-02-01
FROM From: "Steve Milo"
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Memory management

No, the thread was not from that long ago. I had posed a question about
assembly, the substance of which to do not recall. But we had a brief
conversation about it and you went a little into memory management.

BTW, NT may or may not be gaining an advantage but the fact is that ms does
nothing so ingenious that cant be outthought. The only way proprietary
software company's think they can protect themselves is via 'sofware
patents'. But that method is a reflection that: a) the patent office is not
staffed with qualified people to be able to tell the difference between
something that that was actually *invented* instead of interpreted (which is
what software really is, it is just an interpretation or abstract of things
taken from the real(or mathematical) world). This sort of thing is more a
philosophical debate than it is an engine-of-invention-and-commerce debate.
b) Corporations are staffed with a bunch of unqualified untalented shlemazels
who think they are computer scientists (present company not
withstanding :-)).
The bottom line is that the patent office shouldnt be used as a marketing
tool. The argument that 'it has always been used as a marketing tool' is a
half-truth. That is more a case of abuse of a scarce government resource
than the proper utilization.

Which actually brings me to another issue that has been eating away at me
recently. It seems that there are people in the Board of Ed who think they
actually know something about computers. A few individuals at Brooklyn Tech
and Beacon. These people seem to have a perverse interpretation of the GPL
and the Free Software community in general. Until the Board of Ed cleans up
its act and starts treating its true technical talent with respect NYC's
Education system will lag far behind the potential it has. I can speak with
authority because I am very familiar with the stench of beuracracy that
permeats its halls. Both as a student and a potential candidate for a
so-called 'internship'. I will say that *nothing* has changed in atleast the
last 10 years. It may be safer in the schools because they are now staffed
with NYPD, but the quality of the education leaves much to be desired on an
administrative level and student level.

(The opinions leveled here do not necessarily reflect the opinions of NYLXS
or its members. They are mine alone)

Steve M

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:50:35 -0500, Billy wrote
> Steve Milo wrote:
> > Billy, if you are reading this can you explain the two memory management
> > techniques that are used between Linux and Windows. I tried looking for
the
> > reply you sent to address(no pun intended) this question but could not
find it.
>
> I guess you mean the "Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!?" thread
> from 2004-09-02 - 2004-09-05 . That should help you find it.
>
> IIRC, my point was that NT has a kernel and that Lin-FUD is losing
> its punch as NT catches up.
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