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| DATE | 2005-05-12 |
| FROM | From: "Steve Milo"
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Opposing Views: The Debate Over The H-1B Visa Program
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From owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu May 12 08:58:07 2005 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CCw5pP011652 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:58:07 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j4CCw5PG011651 for hangout-outgoings; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:58:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to owner-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mail.rennlist.net (mail.rennlist.com [64.145.15.199] (may be forged)) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CCw2RH011645 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:58:05 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,PRIORITY_NO_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1ham X-Spam-Level: Received: from localhost by mail.rennlist.net; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:56:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:56:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Steve Milo" Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Opposing Views: The Debate Over The H-1B Visa Program To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www2.mrbrklyn.com id j4CCw5RH011649 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 771 Status: RO Content-Length: 1915 Lines: 23
For the record, anyone who does know me I am an 'immigrant' from the former soviet union, been here since the 70's.
Steve
> > > >From first hand experience I can tell you students who do not have a strong grasp of the english langauge are incapable of grasping any concept outside of a text book. Foriegn students are not necessarily smarter or more capable. > > > The reality is that American students do not want to be around students who can not form a complete thought and verbalize it. > > > > The same can be said about imigrants and the like. I don't care what the > > students want, and I'm all for imigrants, even Russian ones. > > I'm not, the US is rightfully trying to stem the flow of russian immigrants to this country. The Russian government intentionally permitted its criminals (real criminals, not 'political dissidents') to leave their borders and head to the United States. > As far as I am concerned anyone immigrating from russia after the 1970's was unnecessary, ironically even russia cared enough to not permit its criminals leave its borders. > > MS was at one point one of the largets employers of russian immigrants. > The russian immigrants I knew years ago, all they could think about was microsoft. Even today mentioning Unix or Linux garners a smirk from them. > > H1B visa 'students' are given an advantage over a domestic student only because they are foreign. There are too many loopholes that are designed to 'level the playing field'. Furthermore, the education system is forced to be dumbed down for the sake of the students who either barely speak a word of english, or think everything about this country is a joke. > > The two largest users of the H1B visa are the IT industry and the modeling industry. The H1B visa system is a farce imposed on the American public. The software company's are using it to saturate the IT workforce market. > > Steve M >
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