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| DATE | 2005-10-15 |
| FROM | From: "Steve Milo"
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[NYLXS_-_HANGOUT]_[Fwd:_[Hardhats-members]_O?=
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Not to detract from the significance of their decision, in what way is Mono a choice that is more efficient than Python?
I can understand their reasoning may be to avoid vendor-lock, but the underlying structure of Mono is based on the same concept as C#/Java. Unless I'm missing something. If they were interested in introducing a hand held medical device at some point in the future they would be better off just designing the software to be independent from the start.
Steve M
> Great post! No Java is not required. It was a question. What is
> interesting is that they are rewriting it in MONO. The issue is if we
> can help them set up a bugzilla like tracting system.
>
> Ruben
>
> On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 18:53, Steve Milo wrote:
> > Is Java a hard requirement? I personally dont see any benefit in converting anything to Java regardless of how the code is written. Java's interpreter is a resource hog and inefficient. Granted in this day and age machines are faster and bus pipeline design is continually being maximized. But still, something always crops up that slows the application response because it is writen in Java. In terms if ease of usability Python is a much better alternative, it is similar in some ways terms of syntax to Java. Python was designed with system efficiency in mind from the start and the the learning curve is the same if not slighty flatter than Java's.
> >
> > But thats just one mans opinion.
> >
> > Steve M
> >
> > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > > From: Todd Berman
> > > Reply-To: hardhats-members-at-lists.sourceforge.net
> > > To: hardhats-members-at-lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subjecth: [Hardhats-members] Open Development Software WAS: Cost to
> > > convert CPRS to Java
> > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:04:51 -0700
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 20:46 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It just takes time is all. Time that we are spending in other places
> > > > > right now. I am trying to find time to spend in that place so we can
> > > > > open up the development, but it just isn't there today.
> > > > >
> > > > > If someone in this community was willing to step forward, and offer to
> > > > > setup, and maintain all of these services for the longer term future,
> > > > > then we could look at it more now, but I don't see that happening. Not
> > > > > to mention that we would still have to discuss the entire thing
> > > > > internally and make sure this is something we are comfortable with (this
> > > > > being the holy trinity of bugzilla/mediawiki/mailman).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I might be able to support that if you think it can be useful. I need
> > > > to ask some of the NYLXS people if they want to do this.
> > >
> > > I would say maybe begin to gather info.
> > >
> > > We see it as there are a cpl solutions
> > >
> > > 1) Get VA Software to let us use SFEE for this (our current solution,
> > > not perfect, but it does work pretty well already, this is potentially
> > > the most minimal amount of work).
> > > 2) Setup and maintain bugzilla/mediawiki/mailman. This is possible,
> > > however some people at the company *cough*Ben*cough* have issues with
> > > how bugzilla looks :).
> > > 3) Write and develop our own solution. As insane as this seems, this
> > > seems to be the currently preferred avenue. There has been some work on
> > > this by some other people, and they seem to have made some decent
> > > progress, but not something that will be usable in the near term (near
> > > meaning this month or next).
> > > 4) Setup a Mambo(or Joomla)/GForge site. This is possible, Personally I
> > > would prefer the b/m/m combo to this. (but that is due to familiarity)
> > >
> > > --Todd
> > >
> > >
> > >
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