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DATE	2007-10-16
FROM	Ruben Safir
SUBJECT	Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Freedom-IT] [rms@gnu.org: Re: Freedom-IT Preliminary Call for Papers]
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 02:15:12AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Richard Stallman ----- > > From: Richard Stallman > To: Ruben Safir > CC: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, ron-at-vnetworx.net, > rick-at-linuxmafia.com, freedom_it-at-mrbrklyn.com > In-reply-to: <20071015114843.GB12558-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> (message from Ruben > Safir on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:48:43 -0400) > Subject: Re: Freedom-IT Preliminary Call for Papers > Reply-to: rms-at-gnu.org > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:11:21 -0400 > > Richard, your not raising any broad and fundemental questions > here. This is simple stuff and lets not complicate it. The > question is how can we asure adequate attention to the political > issues that involve Free Software. This consideration began with > the selection of topic. When the topic was selected for > multimedia and free software, it inherently addresses most key > political issues. > Actually, I'm thinking that each article and presentation should be prefaced by an indroduction by the editorial staff which explains the importance of the project or research to Free Software, and likewise concluded. this way, each presentation is placed a correct context. Ruben > In my experience, that is not the case as a general rule. > Some specific planning is needed to make it true. > > There is more than one way to do it, and I am not stubbornly attached > to the idea I proposed. But I would like people to seriously consider > this idea, rather than reject it with name-calling. > > > Here's an idea. The call for papers could say that ask for each paper > > should explicitly relate the technical subject matter to the goal of > > freedom for all computer user. In other words, the authors should not > > only explain a technique or some software, but also show that the > > technique or software is free, that it can be used in a free > > environment, and how its existence is a contribution to the Free > > World. > > This is an idea worthy more thought and consideration, but having > every presenter make oaths of allegence and to sing some version > of the International... > > is not what my proposal is about. It calls for thought and analysis, > not repetition. > > What is the point of having me in this discussion > if you don't at least seriously consider what I say? > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME" > > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society." > > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.< > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attacted at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one." > > © Copyright for the Digital Millennium > Freedom-IT North America: Lake Placid, NY Winter 2007/8 -- http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME" "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society." "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.< You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attacted at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one." © Copyright for the Digital Millennium