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| DATE | 2007-10-18 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Preliminary Call for Papers
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From owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Oct 18 19:10:39 2007 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l9INAbUc011080 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:10:39 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l9INAbk2011079 for hangout-outgoings; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:10:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to owner-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l9IN9GtC011058; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:09:18 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l9IN9GO0011057; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:09:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:09:16 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: Richard Stallman Cc: Ruben Safir , hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, ron-at-vnetworx.net, rick-at-linuxmafia.com, freedom_it-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Preliminary Call for Papers Message-ID: <20071018230916.GA11052-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20071008055543.GA29944-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20071014072146.GA28640-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20071015114843.GB12558-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 7045 Status: RO Content-Length: 2572 Lines: 56
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:11:21AM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > Richard, your not raising any broad and fundemental questions > here. This is simple stuff and lets not complicate it. The > question is how can we asure adequate attention to the political > issues that involve Free Software. This consideration began with > the selection of topic. When the topic was selected for > multimedia and free software, it inherently addresses most key > political issues.
No thoughts on the suggestion about the introductions?
Ruben
> > In my experience, that is not the case as a general rule. > Some specific planning is needed to make it true. > > There is more than one way to do it, and I am not stubbornly attached > to the idea I proposed. But I would like people to seriously consider > this idea, rather than reject it with name-calling. > > > Here's an idea. The call for papers could say that ask for each paper > > should explicitly relate the technical subject matter to the goal of > > freedom for all computer user. In other words, the authors should not > > only explain a technique or some software, but also show that the > > technique or software is free, that it can be used in a free > > environment, and how its existence is a contribution to the Free > > World. > > This is an idea worthy more thought and consideration, but having > every presenter make oaths of allegence and to sing some version > of the International... > > is not what my proposal is about. It calls for thought and analysis, > not repetition. > > What is the point of having me in this discussion > if you don't at least seriously consider what I say?
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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.< You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attacted at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
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