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DATE 2006-05-17
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> Localizing the Broadband Battle
>
> "Congress shaping telecom law in private", reads the headline in the Austin
> American-Statesman. "While most conference negotiations are closed to public
> view, lobbyist continue to influence the members and their staffers", the
> story says.
>
> On May 1st, Susan Crawford commented on Senator Stevens' telecom bill draft,
> which presumably forms the base material for whatever legislators and
> lobbyist are cooking up. She begins, "It's 135 pages long, and the first
> Title is: 'War on Terrorism.'"
>
> You can bet "Net Neutrality" will be neutered in whatever comes out of these
> meetings.
>
> I've been one of the voices engaged in the fight for Net Neutrality -- or at
> least for some of the concepts it represents. Saving the Net, Net Neutrality
> vs. Net Neutering and Imagining the Maximum Net all took a pro-Neutrality
> stand.
>
> Net Neutrality basically says the Net's packetized goods are inherently
> "neutral". Meaning that the nature of the Net itself does not favor one
> source of bits over another. It just delivers the goods. In David Isenberg's
> immortal words, the Net is "stupid" in this respect. Like the Earth's
> gravity, Neutrality serves an equally simple (and "stupid") purpose for
> everything it supports.
>
> Tim Berners-Lee puts it eloquently:
>
> Twenty-seven years ago, the inventors of the Internet[1] designed an
> architecture[2] which was simple and general. Any computer could send a
> packet to any other computer. The network did not look inside packets. It
> is the cleanness of that design, and the strict independence of the
> layers, which allowed the Internet to grow and be useful. It allowed the
> hardware and transmission technology supporting the Internet to evolve
> through a thousandfold increase in speed, yet still run the same
> applications. It allowed new Internet applications to be introduced and to
> evolve independently.
>
> When, seventeen years ago, I designed the Web, I did not have to ask
> anyone's permission. [3]. The new application rolled out over the existing
> Internet without modifying it. I tried then, and many people still work
> very hard still, to make the Web technology, in turn, a universal,
> neutral, platform. It must not discriminate against particular hardware,
> software, underlying network, language, culture, disability, or against
> particular types of data.
>
> Anyone can build a new application on the Web, without asking me, or Vint
> Cerf, or their ISP, or their cable company, or their operating system
> provider, or their government, or their hardware vendor.
>
> 1. Vint Cerf, Bob Kahn and colleagues
> 2. TCP and IP
> 3. I did have to ask for port 80 for HTTP
>
> I found that post through Richard Bennett, who characterizes it as "flying
> off to socialist Neverland". Richard, like Tim, is a techie. Seems to me Net
> Neutrality should be, at its base, a technical issue. But it isn't. It's a
> political cause.
>
> On the one hand, it is good for geeks to get interested in how politics can
> screw up something they value. Larry Lessig has been urging this loudly ever
> since his famous Free Culture speech at OSCon in the summer of 2002. On the
> other hand, Net Neutrality may be a failed political strategy from the
> outset, because it attacks carriers directly. No matter how lame or
> irrelevant the carriers may be in the long run, they buy votes in Congress
> by the boatload. Attacking them is bound to backfire.
>
> Sure enough, the carriers are reframing Net Neutrality as a way for
> government to mess with business. NETcompetition.org slickly applies the
> cable industry's ample lobbying and public relations muscle. And they are
> joined by right-leaning techies such as Richard Bennett, who engages TBL in
> a long debate in the comments section under the post quoted above. At one
> point Richard summarizes,
>
> The big issue here is that the choices that need to be made between good
> practices and bad are very hard to make in legislation, which tends to be
> more like an ax than a scalpel. Anti-competitive practices are hard to
> identify until we have actual markets in which to measure them. So at this
> point it seems that the prudent thing is to ban only the most egregious
> abuses in law, and wait and see what really comes to pass as the new IMS
> networks are rolled out.
>
> This is echoed by Randolph J. May of the Progress and Freedom Foundation,
> arguing against Net Neutrality in CNET: In a competitive marketplace, the
> government usually does not require that vendors treat all customers and all
> suppliers alike for all purposes. Very often such differences in treatment
> in a competitive marketplace reflect economic efficiencies to be realized
> from that result in cost savings, and these cost savings enhance overall
> consumer welfare. Avoiding broad prohibitions on such differential treatment
> gives operators the freedom and flexibility to invest with confidence in new
> facilities and innovative services consumers may value.
>
> On the other side is David Weinberger, with whom I co-wrote both The
> Cluetrain Manifesto and World of Ends. David wrote Why Net Neutrality
> Matters on April 22. He begins,
>
> Net neutrality (formerly known as the end-to-end principle) means that the
> people who provide connections to the Internet don't get to favor some
> bits over others. This principle is not only under attack, it's about to
> be regulated out of existence.
>
> Here we see how a technical issue is being re-cast as a political one. And,
> though we may be An Army of Davids (as right-leaning and Neutrality-favoring
> law professor and superblogger Glenn Reynolds calls us in his book by that
> title), the Goliaths still own the votes. Which is why Net Neutrality is
> losing in Congress. Jonathan Peterson sums up the prospects:
>
> The reality is that this is a battle that we are going to lose. The telcos
> are going to be allowed to implement special carriage pricing to pass to
> content and service providers - perhaps the Supreme Court will strike it
> down, perhaps not. But just as no one burned down Washington DC when the
> decisions that made our cellular infrastructure and services fall so far
> behind were made, no one will burn down DC as our internet goes the same
> way. (Which doesn't mean that you shouldn't go to Savetheinternet.org and
> sign their Save Network Neutrality Petition).
>
> So it's time to put on a strategic planning hat and start figuring out
> what a post-network neutrality world will look like. Only companies with
> deep pockets will pay the fees for fat content.
>
> I've read that YouTube is burning through $1M/month in hosting fees. That
> can't continue in a rational world, even without bandwidth surcharges from
> ISPs. This means that Google and Yahoo will be able to afford to host
> amateur video content, but most of the other players will die or be
> purchased by the big guys for their content.
>
> Google and Yahoo are great companies, but an end of network neutrality
> actually helps them out by locking out new competitors who won't get the
> best rates for fat pipe carriage. That's a deal with the Devil that's hard
> to ignore.
>
> To pass, Net Neutrality need bipartisan support. Toward that end, it
> probably hasn't helped to have Moveon.org, a partisan organization on the
> left, come out with a petition to save what it calls "the Internet's First
> Amendment". Partisanship breeds sportscasts in the media. So, predictably,
> Net Neutrality became what CNET called "a hotly contested Democratic bid to
> enshrine extensive Net neutrality regulations in the law books", when it
> failed in House committee by a 34-22 vote, mostly along partisan lines.
>
> So. What next?
>
> In Comparative Broadband Ideas, Susan Crawford says there's a simple reason
> why the U.S. is falling farther and farther behind in broadband access,
> while Korea and Japan lead the way:
>
> The primary reason that Japan and Korea do so much better than the U.S. on
> any measurement of broadband (availability, penetration, price, speed) is
> that there is fierce competition in the market for broadband internet
> access in these countries.
>
> Here in the U.S. access is controlled by monopolies and duopolies. Here in
> Santa Barbara only one cable company, Cox Communications, reaches nearly all
> the homes and businesses in town. One reason we moved here in 2001 was that
> Cox's offering was far better than the lousy 100Kb IDSL we were getting at
> our old house in Silicon Valley. Since then Cox has improved services in a
> few ways, but in others has cut back. There is some competition from
> Verizon, which now offers faster upstream speeds at lower prices than Cox,
> but not for the whole town. Where I live the best Verizon offers is "Up to
> 768 Kbps/128 Kbps". But I just tested my Cox connection via DSL Reports
> (http://www.dslreports.com/stest) and got 4.371Mb down and 331Kb up. That's
> not bad, but in Japan and Korea customers are getting 100Mb service for a
> fraction of what I pay to Cox. And I have no choice: Cox has to be my
> provider. They have a functional monopoly. Competition is the key. Broadband
> markets need to be opened. Susan Crawford again:
>
> There are three routes towards increasing competition in broadband access:
> (1) "local loop unbundling," which means requiring the incumbent to
> physically open its facilities to new entrants, who then find new ways to
> provide services to end-customers; (2) "wholesale access," which means
> requiring the incumbent to sell a wholesale broadband access product to
> all comers; and (3) encouraging other kinds of broadband access
> ("facilities-based competition"), which means helping new entrants have
> their own networks without having to deal with the incumbents at all.
>
> I vote for #3. This is what we have in Utah with UTOPIA , where a consortium
> of 14 cities built out fiber infrastructure that they're wholesaling back to
> the incumbents who didn't want to make the effort. Loma Linda, CA is
> mandating 5-15Mbps to premises. Other efforts are going ahead in Burlington,
> VT, Lafayette, LA and many other localities. Why? People want it. Save Muni
> Wireless reported last summer:
>
> After the passage of a law in Louisiana requiring a public referendum for
> municipal broadband, voters in Lafayette approved a $125 million
> fiber-to-the-home project by a 62% to 38% margin.
>
> Yet here in Santa Barbara a Cox official told me a few months back that too
> few people are interested in better broadband. This was after a meeting of a
> local "broadband coalition" (of which I am a member), where customer after
> customer talked about their need for exactly that. At another meeting a Cox
> representative said she didn't "see the problem", adding that customers
> could get all the fiber they want, if they'll just pay for it. When pressed
> on costs, estimates ran up to $50,000.
>
> Of course, the carriers will fight the municipalities (and the companies
> that the municipalities grant rights to string fiber on poles and pull fiber
> through buried conduits). Read the Lafayette Pro Fiber Blog for a running
> account of the fight between citizens (and municipalities on behalf of
> citizens) and carrier-controlled state legislators.
>
> But with citizens backing, there isn't much they can do. We might not be
> able to work around Congress, or even all the state legislatures. But we can
> work locally to find solutions that work for both vendors and customers. We
> need to enlist the participation of independent companies that are
> accustomed to real competition in real markets, and are not just inhabitants
> of what Bob Frankston calls "The Regulatorium".
>
> In the long run, that's the only way.
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> Links:
>
> Congress [2]shaping telecom law in private.
>
> Susan Crawford on Stevens' [3]telecom bill.
>
> Susan Crawford on [4]Comparative Broadband Ideas.
>
> Larry Lessig's [5]Free Culture speech.
>
> Tim Berners-Lee on [6]Net Neutrality.
>
> David Weinberger's [7]Why Net Neutrality Matters.
>
> Glenn Reynolds' [8]Instapundit blog.
>
> Glenn Reynolds' [9]An Army of Davids.
>
> Bob Frankston on [10]buggy whips.
>
> Bob Frankston's [11]Telecom is Just a Phase We're Going Through.
>
> Saving the Net: [12]How to Keep the Carriers from Flushing the Net Down the
> Tubes.
>
> Imagining the [13]Maximum Net
>
> [14]Net Neutrality vs. Net Neutering
>
> [15]MoveOn petition
>
> [16]CNN story
>
> [17]Utopia
>
> [18]Lafayette Pro Fiber
>
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> 1. http://www.epmoreinfo.com/spikesourceq2proseventreg/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nlsuitwatch/
> 2. http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200605/msg00059.html
> 3. http://scrawford.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2006/5/2/1928428.html
> 4. http://scrawford.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2006/5/7/1938922.html
> 5. http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/
> 6. http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/blog/4
> 7. http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/why_net_neutrality_matters.html
> 8. http://instapundit.com/
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> 10. http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22390869
> 11. http://www.frankston.com/Public/Default.aspx?zz=xcs&Script_name=/default.aspx&name=TelecomPhrase
> 12. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8673
> 13. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8929
> 14. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8910
> 15. http://www.civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/index.html
> 16. http://news.com.com/Democrats+lose+House+vote+on+Net+neutrality/2100-1028_3-6065465.html
> 17. http://www.utopianet.org/
> 18. http://lafayetteprofiber.com/
> 19. http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf
> 20. http://conf.phpquebec.com/en/
> 21. http://www.usenix.org/usenix06/lin
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  31. 2006-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] XML for Drug Information
  32. 2006-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IPOD DRM
  33. 2006-05-15 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-announce] Free ticket Giveaway to Ruby on Rails
  34. 2006-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com: DBA Needed in NYC!]
  35. 2006-05-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] CUNY Institute for Software Design
  36. 2006-05-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Non-profit eduction groups
  37. 2006-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: SuitWatch - May 17]
  38. 2006-05-17 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Moving Day Thursday May 18, 2006 6:00PM
  39. 2006-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ssh issues
  40. 2006-05-18 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Reminder: NYLXS Moving Day Thursday May 18, 2006 6:00PM
  41. 2006-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Interesting things on the web - Completely off topic
  42. 2006-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft
  43. 2006-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  44. 2006-05-19 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  45. 2006-05-19 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eben Moglen webcast
  46. 2006-05-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  47. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  48. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eben Moglen webcast
  49. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  50. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  51. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Calendar information
  52. 2006-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  53. 2006-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  54. 2006-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux
  55. 2006-05-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mspitzer-at-gmail.com: Re: [Lisp] Motion: Should worthy projects go unfunded by Google, Lisp-NYC uses last year Google$ to fund one (or more at a fraction of the $4500)]
  56. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  57. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  58. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  59. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  60. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [michael-at-halligan.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  61. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  62. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  63. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  64. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  65. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  66. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [matt-at-modestolan.com: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Mail to balug-talk list] Its a sorry day for?The Linux Journal]
  67. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  68. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  69. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  70. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  71. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [michael-at-halligan.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  72. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  73. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  74. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [michael-at-halligan.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  75. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  76. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  77. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  78. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  79. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  80. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  81. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  82. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [nick-at-zork.net: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  83. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  84. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  85. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  86. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  87. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  88. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  89. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Memorial Day Weekend Discounts at the Billie Holiday Theatre]
  90. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  91. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  92. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  93. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  94. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  95. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  96. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  97. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  98. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  99. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  100. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  101. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  102. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]
  103. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]]
  104. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  105. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  106. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  107. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]
  108. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  109. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  110. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  111. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  112. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  113. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  114. 2006-05-24 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-announce] TOMORROW! NYLUG May Volunteer Mtg (5/25 &
  115. 2006-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com Job Matches]
  116. 2006-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  117. 2006-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-announce] TOMORROW! NYLUG May Volunteer Mtg (5/25 & 5/30): NYLUG on The NY Linux Users Group
  118. 2006-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Job
  119. 2006-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Lisp] Motion: Should worthy projects go unfunded by Google,
  120. 2006-05-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] So you want to live in New York?
  121. 2006-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A few important NYLXS docs found
  122. 2006-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A few important NYLXS docs found
  123. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  124. 2006-05-23 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  125. 2006-05-22 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux
  126. 2006-05-21 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux
  127. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  128. 2006-05-23 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  129. 2006-05-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  130. 2006-05-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  131. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  132. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  133. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]]
  134. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]]
  135. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-talk] TOMORROW! NYLUG May Volunteer Mtg (5/25 &
  136. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Meeting tomorrow with a side of education initatives
  137. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] RE: nylug-talk Digest, Vol 34, Issue 27
  138. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  139. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] World Events
  140. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cool Tech coming
  141. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The End of Democracy according to the NY Times (DRM is Theft)
  142. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Domestic Survailence
  143. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: nylug meeting
  144. 2006-05-29 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]
  145. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] X11 Tutorial
  146. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] X11 Tutorial
  147. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Sun Economic collapse
  148. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Income Verisfication Try this

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