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MESSAGE
DATE 2006-05-24
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Balug-talk] [rick@linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
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From: Ruben Safir
To: Rick Moen
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Subject: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
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>
> Third, you're replicating the careless error of that other guy on this
> mailing list who (badly) quoted Torvalds as supposedly being an obvious
> spokesman for open source (when he has in fact not purported to do that
> at all): You're rather blatantly disregarding the _truly_ obvious
> spokesmen for that movement -- the people who for almost a decade have
> _been_ the literal spokesmen: If you're trying to establish that such
> statements are characteristic of open source, then where are the
> quotations to that effect from OSI Board members and official spokemen?
> Larry Rosen? Russell Nelson? Michael Tiemann?
>
> I don't think you can, because I know to one degree or another all of
> those people and most of the others, and your portrayal simply does not
> reflect their views.
>


The general problem I find with your argument is that the cat is out
of the bag. The term "Open Source" has been adopted in the language
by many people who talk with varrying degrees of autority, whether they
are directly involved with OSI or not. For whatever it is worth, OSI is
no longer defining "Open Source" which is something I think they really
encouraged and was a goal in their "marketing".

And now we are stuck with it. If Linus uses Bitkeeper, then it must
be "OK" with Open Source, because Linus (insert Brooklyn based adjetive
here) says so. Right?

right.

Nobody is running to OSI's website to see
if it their official position or not. Of course, then we see a case like
Nicholas Petreley shooting and Free Software with such a wide that he is
busy shooting at Freedom under every rock, Free Software, Open Source
be damned. But be clear about it. For millions of people Linus Tovalds
is the face of "Open Source". If your going to argue otherwise by correctly
pointing out the finer points of OSI membership, I'll agree with you, but
that won't mean a darn thing to the public (or in political situations).

Ruben





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  1. 2006-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [501techclub-ny] NYU Information Technology Projects
  2. 2006-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: LOVE & MARRIAGE & NEW YORK CITY at The Billie Holiday
  3. 2006-05-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Thursday meeting on open hardware
  4. 2006-05-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Closing the digital divide near you
  5. 2006-05-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Media and the Internet: New Opportunity for Freedom or Dark
  6. 2006-05-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Who neds space tourism?
  7. 2006-05-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement:
  8. 2006-05-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Medical Economics
  9. 2006-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Lead Server Technician]
  10. 2006-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] X Bug hunt
  11. 2006-05-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com Job Matches]
  12. 2006-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: Looking fir a unix linux administrator]
  13. 2006-05-09 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  14. 2006-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  15. 2006-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  16. 2006-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OK - got it...
  17. 2006-05-09 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  18. 2006-05-09 From: "RUL-at-" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nyc.politics] WTC Rebuilding #433:Silverstein Accepts Official Offer...
  19. 2006-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nyc.politics] WTC Rebuilding #433:Silverstein Accepts Official Offer...
  20. 2006-05-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  21. 2006-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  22. 2006-05-10 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  23. 2006-05-10 From: "J.E. Cripps" <cycmn-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  24. 2006-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [Balug-talk] [JOB] Linux Engineer, Walnut Creek]
  25. 2006-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  26. 2006-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Computer Models that work
  27. 2006-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] meeting
  28. 2006-05-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [malmonte-at-searchedp.com: Web Applications Administrator]
  29. 2006-05-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [apetruzzella-at-c3expo.com: June 27th-29th, 2006 in NYC]
  30. 2006-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: E-Update for the Committee on Technology in Government of
  31. 2006-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] XML for Drug Information
  32. 2006-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IPOD DRM
  33. 2006-05-15 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-announce] Free ticket Giveaway to Ruby on Rails
  34. 2006-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com: DBA Needed in NYC!]
  35. 2006-05-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] CUNY Institute for Software Design
  36. 2006-05-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Non-profit eduction groups
  37. 2006-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: SuitWatch - May 17]
  38. 2006-05-17 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Moving Day Thursday May 18, 2006 6:00PM
  39. 2006-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ssh issues
  40. 2006-05-18 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Reminder: NYLXS Moving Day Thursday May 18, 2006 6:00PM
  41. 2006-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Interesting things on the web - Completely off topic
  42. 2006-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM is Theft
  43. 2006-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  44. 2006-05-19 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  45. 2006-05-19 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eben Moglen webcast
  46. 2006-05-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  47. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  48. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eben Moglen webcast
  49. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  50. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  51. 2006-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Calendar information
  52. 2006-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  53. 2006-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  54. 2006-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux
  55. 2006-05-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mspitzer-at-gmail.com: Re: [Lisp] Motion: Should worthy projects go unfunded by Google, Lisp-NYC uses last year Google$ to fund one (or more at a fraction of the $4500)]
  56. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  57. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  58. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  59. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  60. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [michael-at-halligan.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  61. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  62. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  63. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  64. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  65. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  66. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [matt-at-modestolan.com: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Mail to balug-talk list] Its a sorry day for?The Linux Journal]
  67. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  68. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  69. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  70. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  71. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [michael-at-halligan.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  72. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  73. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  74. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [michael-at-halligan.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  75. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  76. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  77. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  78. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  79. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  80. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  81. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  82. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [nick-at-zork.net: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  83. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  84. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
  85. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  86. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal]
  87. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  88. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  89. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Memorial Day Weekend Discounts at the Billie Holiday Theatre]
  90. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [matt-at-modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  91. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  92. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  93. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  94. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  95. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  96. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  97. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  98. 2006-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  99. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  100. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  101. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  102. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]
  103. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]]
  104. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  105. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  106. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  107. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]
  108. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  109. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  110. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  111. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  112. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  113. 2006-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  114. 2006-05-24 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-announce] TOMORROW! NYLUG May Volunteer Mtg (5/25 &
  115. 2006-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com Job Matches]
  116. 2006-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a
  117. 2006-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-announce] TOMORROW! NYLUG May Volunteer Mtg (5/25 & 5/30): NYLUG on The NY Linux Users Group
  118. 2006-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Perl Job
  119. 2006-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Lisp] Motion: Should worthy projects go unfunded by Google,
  120. 2006-05-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] So you want to live in New York?
  121. 2006-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A few important NYLXS docs found
  122. 2006-05-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A few important NYLXS docs found
  123. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  124. 2006-05-23 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  125. 2006-05-22 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux
  126. 2006-05-21 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux
  127. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  128. 2006-05-23 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [Fwd: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]]
  129. 2006-05-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  130. 2006-05-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal
  131. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  132. 2006-05-24 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
  133. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]]
  134. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]]
  135. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-talk] TOMORROW! NYLUG May Volunteer Mtg (5/25 &
  136. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Meeting tomorrow with a side of education initatives
  137. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] RE: nylug-talk Digest, Vol 34, Issue 27
  138. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  139. 2006-05-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] World Events
  140. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cool Tech coming
  141. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The End of Democracy according to the NY Times (DRM is Theft)
  142. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Domestic Survailence
  143. 2006-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: nylug meeting
  144. 2006-05-29 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]]
  145. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] X11 Tutorial
  146. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] X11 Tutorial
  147. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Sun Economic collapse
  148. 2006-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Income Verisfication Try this

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