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| DATE | 2006-11-08 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Microsoft Linux
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On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 00:28 -0500, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
>
> I received an email from xensource about this
> apparently they put a native xen compatible virtual machine support
> into the new version of windows longhorn.
That would allow for greater ability to control a MS product with a GNU
based system, and not the other way around. Frankly, I've been confused
as to what exactly MS is getting from Novell in all of this other that a
precedent which they will never be able to enforce. My guess is that MS
infringed Xen copyrights and perceived patents.
Ruben
>
> On 11/7/06, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 01:58:57AM -0500, Jay Sulzberger
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, alex khalil wrote:
> >
> > > Well, almost: Microsoft will support Novell's SUSE Linux
> and enhance
> > >interoperability
> > >
> >
> >http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116249026689311557-helTbrheLKgbaJ5iO5z40ZFCiOs_20061109.html?mod=blogs
> >
> > Novell has agreed to pay Microsoft a fee for every copy of
> Novell
> > SUSE sold. These payments from Novell to Microsoft are not
> > lawful under the terms of the settlement of the federal
> > anti-trust action against Microsoft.
> >
> > Novell has agreed to make this payment because Novell
> accepts the
> > principle of software patents. Novell's practice is even
> more
> > ridiculous: Microsoft points out that Microsoft has many
> software
> > patents, and Novell pays without litigation.
>
>
> As best as I can understand this, evidently this is not true.
> If anything it seems to be the very opposite.
>
> http://www.thestreet.com/_googlen/newsanalysis/techsoftware/10320646.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA
>
> Microsoft (MSFT - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating) will
> make an
> upfront payment to Novell (NOVL - commentary - Cramer's Take -
> Rating)
> of $240 million and spend $94 million over five years to
> market Linux
> as part of the unusual agreement announced by the two
> companies last week.
>
> Microsoft has also agreed not to enter into a collaborative
> arrangement
> with another Linux distributor for three years, according to a
> Novell
> filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Tuesday.
> That
> provision of the agreement effectively shuts out Red Hat (RHAT
> -
> commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating), the leading distributor
> of Linux,
> and the company with the most to lose as Microsoft cozies up
> to Novell.
>
> Last week, Microsoft and Novell agreed to collaborate in an
> effort to
> make it simpler for businesses to run Windows and Novell's
> Suse Linux
> on the same server in a process called "virtualization."
>
> Microsoft will also put its considerable marketing muscle
> behind Novell's
> Linux products.
>
> A separate provision of the agreement concerns patent and
> intellectual-property protection. Under that provision,
> Microsoft will
> make a net upfront payment to Novell of $108 million, and
> Novell will make
> ongoing payments of at least $40 million over five years to
> Microsoft.
>
> The exact amount of those payments will depend upon the volume
> of revenue
> from sales of various Novell products.
>
> Shares of Microsoft recently rose a penny to $28.96 after
> hours; Novell
> shares gained 29 cents to $6.79.
>
>
>
> >
> > By this agreement, Novell has joined with Microsoft to use
> > software patents against free software authors and users,
> and
> > against for-profit companies and not-for-profit
> organizations.
> >
>
> Eh
>
>
> We predicted over 4 years ago that it was inevitable that MS
> would
> make its own "Linux" product and this is just a step on the
> inevitable
> way to that happening. Our work at the EGOV-OS meeting with
> NY Fair Use
> was targeting exactly these problems and the successful
> bluring of the
> Free Software line with the "Open Source" line onward to the
> MS "Shared
> Secret" line. In fact, the most interesting spin on this is
> by Bruce
> Perens, who until now has all but paved the road for this
> events, and even
> worse things to come.
>
> http://www.mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=show&id=4807
>
>
>
> > Do not help Novell. Remove SUSE from your machines, and
> never
> > pay any software patent claims. Let the claimants sue, and
> > meanwhile, publish without fear.
> >
>
> I'll take it off mine right after you remove it from yours.
>
> Ruben
>
>
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