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Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Reactions to Novell's Announcement to Work with Microsoft
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*Samba denounces Novell, openSUSE 10.2, F vs U, Debian etch kernels,
Slackware changelog*
[image: Novell]
Novell's
recent deal with Microsoft continues to attract unprecedented levels of
condemnation from Linux user and development communities. The latest project
to call on Novell to reconsider the agreement is Samba. Last week, the
developers of the widely used open source project providing file and print
services for Microsoft Windows under Linux and other free operating systems
issued a strongly worded press
releasedenouncing
Novell for its part in the deal with Microsoft: "For
Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the relationship
that they have with the Free Software community." The Samba project team
also believes that "using patents as competitive tools in the free software
world is not acceptable."
* * * * *
12 November 2006 Samba Team Asks Novell to Reconsider
The Samba Team disapproves strongly of the actions taken by Novell on
November 2nd.
One of the fundamental differences between the proprietary software world
and the free software world is that the proprietary software world divides
users by forcing them to agree to coercive licensing agreements which
restrict their rights to share with each other, whereas the free software
world encourages users to unite and share the benefits of the software.
The patent agreement struck between Novell and Microsoft is a divisive
agreement. It deals with users and creators of free software differently
depending on their "commercial" versus "non-commercial" status, and deals
with them differently depending on whether they obtained their free software
directly from Novell or from someone else.
The goals of the Free Software community and the GNU GPL allow for no such
distinctions.
Furthermore, the GPL makes it clear that all distributors of GPL'd software
must stand together in the fight against software patents. Only by standing
together do we stand a chance of defending against the peril represented by
software patents. With this agreement Novell is attempting to destroy that
unified defense, exchanging the long term interests of the entire Free
Software community for a short term advantage for Novell over their
competitors.
For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the relationship
that they have with the Free Software community. We are, in essence, their
suppliers, and Novell should know that they have no right to make self
serving deals on behalf of others which run contrary to the goals and ideals
of the Free Software community.
Using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is not
acceptable. Novell, as a participant in numerous debates, discussions and
conferences on the topic knew this to be the case. We call upon Novell to
work with the Software Freedom Law Center to undo the patent agreement and
acknowledge its obligations as a beneficiary of the Free Software community.
[image: openSUSE] While Novell continues to
endure the wrath of the open source community, spare a thought for the
developers of openSUSE . Since this highly
popular distribution is still largely developed in Germany where the
original SuSE Linux was born, it is quite likely that the deal caught its
core developers by surprise just as much as it shocked the rest of the Linux
world. So far, however, there is no indication of any drastic changes
affecting the openSUSE distribution. The project has just released the
second beta of openSUSE 10.2 and is on target for the December 7th final
release.
If you make a decision to boycott Novell's products, should that include the
openSUSE distribution? Although it might seem acceptable as a way to punish
Novell for its part in the controversial deal, please remember that by
refusing to install and use openSUSE, you'll be also punishing the project's
innocent developers who continue to produce what they believe is the best
Linux distribution on the market and whose only crime is that they happen to
be on Novell's payroll. Unless they themselves call for boycotting the
project or decide to walk away from it, DistroWatch would argue that it is
OK to continue using the distribution and supporting the project as before.
For more information about the impact of the unpopular deal on openSUSE,
please read this web log
postby
Andreas Jaeger, the distribution's release manager.
--
Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Samba denounces Novell, openSUSE 10.2, F vs U, Debian etch kernels, Slackware changelog
Novell's
recent deal with Microsoft continues to attract unprecedented levels of
condemnation from Linux user and development communities. The latest
project to call on Novell to reconsider the agreement is Samba. Last
week, the developers of the widely used open source project providing
file and print services for Microsoft Windows under Linux and other
free operating systems issued a strongly worded press release denouncing Novell for its part in the deal with Microsoft: "For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the relationship that they have with the Free Software community.
" The Samba project team also believes that "using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is not acceptable."
* * * * * 12 November 2006
The Samba Team disapproves strongly of the actions taken by Novell on
November 2nd. One of the fundamental differences between the proprietary software
world and the free software world is that the proprietary software
world divides users by forcing them to agree to coercive licensing
agreements which restrict their rights to share with each other, whereas
the free software world encourages users to unite and share the
benefits of the software. The patent agreement struck between Novell and Microsoft is a
divisive agreement. It deals with users and creators of free software
differently depending on their "commercial" versus "non-commercial"
status, and deals with them differently depending on whether they
obtained their free software directly from Novell or from someone
else. The goals of the Free Software community and the GNU GPL allow for no
such distinctions. Furthermore, the GPL makes it clear that all distributors of GPL'd
software must stand together in the fight against software
patents. Only by standing together do we stand a chance of defending
against the peril represented by software patents. With this
agreement Novell is attempting to destroy that unified defense,
exchanging the long term interests of the entire Free Software
community for a short term advantage for Novell over their
competitors. For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the
relationship that they have with the Free Software community. We
are, in essence, their suppliers, and Novell should know that they
have no right to make self serving deals on behalf of others which
run contrary to the goals and ideals of the Free Software community. Using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is not
acceptable. Novell, as a participant in numerous debates, discussions
and conferences on the topic knew this to be the case. We call upon
Novell to work with the Software Freedom Law Center to undo the
patent agreement and acknowledge its obligations as a beneficiary of
the Free Software community.
 While Novell continues to endure the wrath of the open source community, spare a thought for the developers of
openSUSE.
Since this highly popular distribution is still largely developed in
Germany where the original SuSE Linux was born, it is quite likely that
the deal caught its core developers by surprise just as much as it
shocked the rest of the Linux world. So far, however, there is no
indication of any drastic changes affecting the openSUSE distribution.
The project has just released the second beta of openSUSE 10.2 and is
on target for the December 7th final release.
If you make a
decision to boycott Novell's products, should that include the openSUSE
distribution? Although it might seem acceptable as a way to punish
Novell for its part in the controversial deal, please remember that by
refusing to install and use openSUSE, you'll be also punishing the
project's innocent developers who continue to produce what they believe
is the best Linux distribution on the market and whose only crime is
that they happen to be on Novell's payroll. Unless they themselves call
for boycotting the project or decide to walk away from it, DistroWatch
would argue that it is OK to continue using the distribution and
supporting the project as before. For more information about the impact
of the unpopular deal on openSUSE, please read this web log post by Andreas Jaeger, the distribution's release manager.
--
Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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*Samba denounces Novell, openSUSE 10.2, F vs U, Debian etch kernels,
Slackware changelog*
[image: Novell]
Novell's
recent deal with Microsoft continues to attract unprecedented levels of
condemnation from Linux user and development communities. The latest project
to call on Novell to reconsider the agreement is Samba. Last week, the
developers of the widely used open source project providing file and print
services for Microsoft Windows under Linux and other free operating systems
issued a strongly worded press
releasedenouncing
Novell for its part in the deal with Microsoft: "For
Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the relationship
that they have with the Free Software community." The Samba project team
also believes that "using patents as competitive tools in the free software
world is not acceptable."
* * * * *
12 November 2006 Samba Team Asks Novell to Reconsider
The Samba Team disapproves strongly of the actions taken by Novell on
November 2nd.
One of the fundamental differences between the proprietary software world
and the free software world is that the proprietary software world divides
users by forcing them to agree to coercive licensing agreements which
restrict their rights to share with each other, whereas the free software
world encourages users to unite and share the benefits of the software.
The patent agreement struck between Novell and Microsoft is a divisive
agreement. It deals with users and creators of free software differently
depending on their "commercial" versus "non-commercial" status, and deals
with them differently depending on whether they obtained their free software
directly from Novell or from someone else.
The goals of the Free Software community and the GNU GPL allow for no such
distinctions.
Furthermore, the GPL makes it clear that all distributors of GPL'd software
must stand together in the fight against software patents. Only by standing
together do we stand a chance of defending against the peril represented by
software patents. With this agreement Novell is attempting to destroy that
unified defense, exchanging the long term interests of the entire Free
Software community for a short term advantage for Novell over their
competitors.
For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the relationship
that they have with the Free Software community. We are, in essence, their
suppliers, and Novell should know that they have no right to make self
serving deals on behalf of others which run contrary to the goals and ideals
of the Free Software community.
Using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is not
acceptable. Novell, as a participant in numerous debates, discussions and
conferences on the topic knew this to be the case. We call upon Novell to
work with the Software Freedom Law Center to undo the patent agreement and
acknowledge its obligations as a beneficiary of the Free Software community.
[image: openSUSE] While Novell continues to
endure the wrath of the open source community, spare a thought for the
developers of openSUSE . Since this highly
popular distribution is still largely developed in Germany where the
original SuSE Linux was born, it is quite likely that the deal caught its
core developers by surprise just as much as it shocked the rest of the Linux
world. So far, however, there is no indication of any drastic changes
affecting the openSUSE distribution. The project has just released the
second beta of openSUSE 10.2 and is on target for the December 7th final
release.
If you make a decision to boycott Novell's products, should that include the
openSUSE distribution? Although it might seem acceptable as a way to punish
Novell for its part in the controversial deal, please remember that by
refusing to install and use openSUSE, you'll be also punishing the project's
innocent developers who continue to produce what they believe is the best
Linux distribution on the market and whose only crime is that they happen to
be on Novell's payroll. Unless they themselves call for boycotting the
project or decide to walk away from it, DistroWatch would argue that it is
OK to continue using the distribution and supporting the project as before.
For more information about the impact of the unpopular deal on openSUSE,
please read this web log
postby
Andreas Jaeger, the distribution's release manager.
--
Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Samba denounces Novell, openSUSE 10.2, F vs U, Debian etch kernels, Slackware changelog
Novell's
recent deal with Microsoft continues to attract unprecedented levels of
condemnation from Linux user and development communities. The latest
project to call on Novell to reconsider the agreement is Samba. Last
week, the developers of the widely used open source project providing
file and print services for Microsoft Windows under Linux and other
free operating systems issued a strongly worded press release denouncing Novell for its part in the deal with Microsoft: "For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the relationship that they have with the Free Software community.
" The Samba project team also believes that "using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is not acceptable."
* * * * * 12 November 2006
The Samba Team disapproves strongly of the actions taken by Novell on
November 2nd. One of the fundamental differences between the proprietary software
world and the free software world is that the proprietary software
world divides users by forcing them to agree to coercive licensing
agreements which restrict their rights to share with each other, whereas
the free software world encourages users to unite and share the
benefits of the software. The patent agreement struck between Novell and Microsoft is a
divisive agreement. It deals with users and creators of free software
differently depending on their "commercial" versus "non-commercial"
status, and deals with them differently depending on whether they
obtained their free software directly from Novell or from someone
else. The goals of the Free Software community and the GNU GPL allow for no
such distinctions. Furthermore, the GPL makes it clear that all distributors of GPL'd
software must stand together in the fight against software
patents. Only by standing together do we stand a chance of defending
against the peril represented by software patents. With this
agreement Novell is attempting to destroy that unified defense,
exchanging the long term interests of the entire Free Software
community for a short term advantage for Novell over their
competitors. For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the
relationship that they have with the Free Software community. We
are, in essence, their suppliers, and Novell should know that they
have no right to make self serving deals on behalf of others which
run contrary to the goals and ideals of the Free Software community. Using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is not
acceptable. Novell, as a participant in numerous debates, discussions
and conferences on the topic knew this to be the case. We call upon
Novell to work with the Software Freedom Law Center to undo the
patent agreement and acknowledge its obligations as a beneficiary of
the Free Software community.
While Novell continues to endure the wrath of the open source community, spare a thought for the developers of
openSUSE.
Since this highly popular distribution is still largely developed in
Germany where the original SuSE Linux was born, it is quite likely that
the deal caught its core developers by surprise just as much as it
shocked the rest of the Linux world. So far, however, there is no
indication of any drastic changes affecting the openSUSE distribution.
The project has just released the second beta of openSUSE 10.2 and is
on target for the December 7th final release.
If you make a
decision to boycott Novell's products, should that include the openSUSE
distribution? Although it might seem acceptable as a way to punish
Novell for its part in the controversial deal, please remember that by
refusing to install and use openSUSE, you'll be also punishing the
project's innocent developers who continue to produce what they believe
is the best Linux distribution on the market and whose only crime is
that they happen to be on Novell's payroll. Unless they themselves call
for boycotting the project or decide to walk away from it, DistroWatch
would argue that it is OK to continue using the distribution and
supporting the project as before. For more information about the impact
of the unpopular deal on openSUSE, please read this web log post by Andreas Jaeger, the distribution's release manager.
--
Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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