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DATE 2008-08-08
FROM Elfen Magix
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
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From: Elfen Magix
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
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It just like with a classroom; if a teacher as a book or other printed mate=
rial, she can copy a few segments from it to hand out to his/her students. =
But she can not sell the copied materials itself to the students (or anyone=
else) nor she can not copy the whole thing and distribute that as a whole.


--- On Fri, 8/8/08, mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com com> wrote:
From: mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 2:29 PM

If you mean the church no it won't be sold. The publisher will still be
selling it. =20

-----Original Message-----

From: Ruben Safir
Subj: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
Date: Fri Aug 8, 2008 1:36 pm
Size: 1K
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:23:00AM -0400, Michael L. Richardson wrote:
> I have a book (Christianty Restored ) I brought it for my church. Its an
English translation published in 2007. Due to the nature of the book I exp=
ect
there are those who would physicaly damage it (with maliace), and those who
would make off with parts (if not the whole book) of it. Under fair use ca=
n the
church make a copy to be used and the original be put in a safe place?


As long as they aren't selling it.

Ruben

--=20
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI S=
afir
1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir
2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have bee=
n
attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you mi=
ssed
that one."

=A9 Copyright for the Digital Millennium


=0A=0A=0A
--0-1433644900-1218221703=:83845
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

top" style=3D"font: inherit;">It just like with a classroom; if a teacher a=
s a book or other printed material, she can copy a few segments from it to =
hand out to his/her students. But she can not sell the copied materials its=
elf to the students (or anyone else) nor she can not copy the whole thing a=
nd distribute that as a whole.


--- On Fri, 8/8/08, mlr52-at-mich=
aellrichardson.com <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com>
wrote:r>
: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com <mlr52-at-mic=
haellrichardson.com>
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite=
question
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Date: Friday=
, August 8, 2008, 2:29 PM

If you mean the church no it won't be=
sold. The publisher will still be
selling it.

-----Original
Message-----

From: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>
Subj:=
Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
Date: Fri Aug 8, 200=
8 1:36 pm
Size: 1K
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

On Fri, Aug 08, =
2008 at 07:23:00AM -0400, Michael L. Richardson wrote:
> I have a boo=
k (Christianty Restored ) I brought it for my church. Its an
English tr=
anslation published in 2007. Due to the nature of the book I expect
the=
re are those who would physicaly damage it (with maliace), and those who>would make off with parts (if not the whole book) of it. Under fair use c=
an the
church make a copy to be used and the original be put in a safe p=
lace?


As long as they aren't selling it.

Ruben

-- =

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - L=
eadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have=
swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
Atlantis, reaches
mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir
1998
<=
br>http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Sa=
fir
2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The t=
remendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
our o=
wn cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
so=
ciety."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, p=
olitics be
damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because po=
litcs and technology have been
attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty=
in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed
that one."

=A9 Copyright f=
or the Digital Millennium


<=
br>=0A=0A=0A=0A
--0-1433644900-1218221703=:83845--

--0-1433644900-1218221703=:83845
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It just like with a classroom; if a teacher as a book or other printed mate=
rial, she can copy a few segments from it to hand out to his/her students. =
But she can not sell the copied materials itself to the students (or anyone=
else) nor she can not copy the whole thing and distribute that as a whole.


--- On Fri, 8/8/08, mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com com> wrote:
From: mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 2:29 PM

If you mean the church no it won't be sold. The publisher will still be
selling it. =20

-----Original Message-----

From: Ruben Safir
Subj: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
Date: Fri Aug 8, 2008 1:36 pm
Size: 1K
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:23:00AM -0400, Michael L. Richardson wrote:
> I have a book (Christianty Restored ) I brought it for my church. Its an
English translation published in 2007. Due to the nature of the book I exp=
ect
there are those who would physicaly damage it (with maliace), and those who
would make off with parts (if not the whole book) of it. Under fair use ca=
n the
church make a copy to be used and the original be put in a safe place?


As long as they aren't selling it.

Ruben

--=20
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI S=
afir
1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir
2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have bee=
n
attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you mi=
ssed
that one."

=A9 Copyright for the Digital Millennium


=0A=0A=0A
--0-1433644900-1218221703=:83845
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

top" style=3D"font: inherit;">It just like with a classroom; if a teacher a=
s a book or other printed material, she can copy a few segments from it to =
hand out to his/her students. But she can not sell the copied materials its=
elf to the students (or anyone else) nor she can not copy the whole thing a=
nd distribute that as a whole.


--- On Fri, 8/8/08, mlr52-at-mich=
aellrichardson.com <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com>
wrote:r>
: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com <mlr52-at-mic=
haellrichardson.com>
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite=
question
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Date: Friday=
, August 8, 2008, 2:29 PM

If you mean the church no it won't be=
sold. The publisher will still be
selling it.

-----Original
Message-----

From: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>
Subj:=
Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair use copyrite question
Date: Fri Aug 8, 200=
8 1:36 pm
Size: 1K
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

On Fri, Aug 08, =
2008 at 07:23:00AM -0400, Michael L. Richardson wrote:
> I have a boo=
k (Christianty Restored ) I brought it for my church. Its an
English tr=
anslation published in 2007. Due to the nature of the book I expect
the=
re are those who would physicaly damage it (with maliace), and those who>would make off with parts (if not the whole book) of it. Under fair use c=
an the
church make a copy to be used and the original be put in a safe p=
lace?


As long as they aren't selling it.

Ruben

-- =

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - L=
eadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have=
swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
Atlantis, reaches
mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir
1998
<=
br>http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Sa=
fir
2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The t=
remendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
our o=
wn cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
so=
ciety."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, p=
olitics be
damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because po=
litcs and technology have been
attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty=
in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed
that one."

=A9 Copyright f=
or the Digital Millennium


<=
br>=0A=0A=0A=0A
--0-1433644900-1218221703=:83845--

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  43. 2008-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google and Georgia
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  45. 2008-08-19 From: "armando fonseca" <afonsec2-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Volunteer4-at-JohnMcCain.com: McCain Campaign Internships]
  46. 2008-08-19 From: <tameek-at-gmail.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Volunteer4-at-JohnMcCain.com: McCain Campaign
  47. 2008-08-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Pulse Pen and Linux
  48. 2008-08-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Error in your C++ page on const
  49. 2008-08-24 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor configuration. Help please.
  50. 2008-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor configuration. Help please.
  51. 2008-08-25 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor configuration. Help
  52. 2008-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor configuration. Help please.
  53. 2008-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop 2.34
  54. 2008-08-26 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Suse & FTP
  55. 2008-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Suse & FTP
  56. 2008-08-27 Matthew <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Suse & FTP
  57. 2008-08-27 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Suse & FTP
  58. 2008-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Suse & FTP
  59. 2008-08-27 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor
  60. 2008-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor configuration. Help please.
  61. 2008-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] mac book?
  62. 2008-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mac Book
  63. 2008-08-27 From: "armando fonseca" <afonsec2-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor configuration. Help please.
  64. 2008-08-27 Mark Simko <msimko-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: SONY VIAO Laptop & openSUSE 11.00 Monitor
  65. 2008-08-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Chamber of Commerce:
  66. 2008-08-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] August Plans
  67. 2008-08-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nbs-at-sonic.net: [vox] Volunteers at Software Freedom Day - discs, too]
  68. 2008-08-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: multi-dim arrays in c
  69. 2008-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Workshop C++ errors
  70. 2008-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: multi-dim arrays in c

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