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DATE 2010-10-20
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 01:37:06PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com):
>
> > But if OO was never GPLed, then there are real limits to how much can be
> > forked.
>
> What about LGPL prevents effective forking? (That's a rhetorical
> question, by the way. OO.o was initially dual-licensed under LGPL and
> the one-off SISSL licence.)
>
> > And BTW - OO with SUN also had issues. SUN packed it with an
> > insane DB backend linked into a Java based driver and some weirdo
> > database engine instead of just integrating it into the already existing
> > commonly deployed MYSQL or Postgres infrastructure.
>
> I was among those who argued on the OO.o bugzilla item in question in
> favour of using SQLite instead of, or at least in addition to, HSQLDB,
> as the engine for OO.o Base. The justification for the latter was that
> it was more feature-complete. SQLite would have required some extension
> work.
>
> Omitting OO.o Base isn't much of a loss, especially since it's trivial
> to connect to MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc. via the built-in ODBC and JDBC
> interfaces, and there are simple instructions for doing so all over the
> Internet, including in my knowledgebase. (About the only thing you lose
> by so doing is integrated report-generation.)
>


I would have just integrated it with MYSQL outright, which would have
allowed for a rich development platform for gui work. I hooked it up
once to the ODBC drivers once, but on one of the upgrades it became a
lot harder, and I must be stupid, but I couldn't find decent
documentation on either the ODBC driver or the development language.

I'll look at your docs. I should know enough to look there first by
now.


> > Al that being said, I love Monty but he is being a bit disingunuous to
> > complain about Oracle and MYSQL after walking away with a billion
> > dollars on the say of MYSQL to SUN.
>
> Yes, quite. However, ability to fork renders disputations over who's
> a nice guy ultimately irrelevant.
>

100% which is much of the point of your original post.

Ruben

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  1. 2010-10-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Open Your Wallets and read this..
  2. 2010-10-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Presents: 10/20 -at- 6:30PM Annie Ying on Eclipse, from the Linux perspective
  3. 2010-10-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Slackware Release News
  4. 2010-10-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [dplist-at-danielpipes.org: #1041 Pipes on "Two Decades of the
  5. 2010-10-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  6. 2010-10-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ludwig.nussel-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Security
  7. 2010-10-11 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  8. 2010-10-11 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  9. 2010-10-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  10. 2010-10-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  11. 2010-10-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 10 years ...not long enough
  12. 2010-10-11 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  13. 2010-10-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  14. 2010-10-12 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  15. 2010-10-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  16. 2010-10-12 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday October 12 6:00PM-8:00PM
  17. 2010-10-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement:
  18. 2010-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  19. 2010-10-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement:
  20. 2010-10-16 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table Sat (TONIGHT) at 10 PM live, streaming
  21. 2010-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table Sat (TONIGHT) at
  22. 2010-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  23. 2010-10-16 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table Sat (TONIGHT) at
  24. 2010-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table Sat (TONIGHT) at
  25. 2010-10-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Headway in Education Texts Books and Copyright
  26. 2010-10-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table Sat (TONIGHT) at
  27. 2010-10-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table Sat (TONIGHT) at
  28. 2010-10-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gale
  29. 2010-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DMCA News
  30. 2010-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  31. 2010-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  32. 2010-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  33. 2010-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  34. 2010-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  35. 2010-10-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Broadband Brooklyn Testing
  36. 2010-10-24 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  37. 2010-10-25 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  38. 2010-10-25 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  39. 2010-10-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
  40. 2010-10-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Broadband Brooklyn Testing
  41. 2010-10-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] SUSE Security Summary Report: SUSE-SR:2010:019
  42. 2010-10-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Broadband Brooklyn Testing
  43. 2010-10-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Rent is Too Damn High
  44. 2010-10-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Tuesday: Special NY Tech Meetup!
  45. 2010-10-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Technight - Next Sunday Evening
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