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DATE 2010-10-25
FROM From: "Ron Guerin"
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
phantom21-at-mindspring.com wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Ron Guerin
>> Sent: Oct 25, 2010 1:03 AM
>> To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
>> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
>>
>> phantom21-at-mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Ron Guerin
>>>> Sent: Oct 24, 2010 11:45 PM
>>>> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OpenOffice.org -> LibreOffice, round two
>>>>
>>>> Ruben Safir wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Then after talking to the development team enough, I just decided,
>>>>> eh...not worth the trouble with these guys. I'll take another look at
>>>>> everything this weekend. The truth is I'm several years out of the loop
>>>>> on this at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I think community-wise, pretty much everyone gave up on OOo long ago.
>>>> Office suites are not exactly the favorite apps of geeks to begin with,
>>>> and Sun did its best to drive away those who were interested. IIRC, the
>>>> LibreOffice "team" is pretty much all corporate and corporate wannabes,
>>>> except for some orgs who I assume won't actually be contributing
>>>> anything other than bile about Oracle, so I doubt much is really going
>>>> to change. That said, if this means OOo goes Java-free, then hooray for
>>>> LibreOffice.
>>>>
>>>> - Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't know Ron. Maybe you meant gave up on OOo development wise, but I've been using it and continue to use it for my document needs.
>>>
>>>
>> I suppose I kind of assumed at this point that everyone knows how I feel
>> about the existence of office suites. I use them myself about once a
>> year, but I consider them necessary pieces of software for a general
>> purpose "desktop" computer. Especially if one has the goal of
>> increasing the use of Linux desktops out in the general population.
>>
>> Geeks however have not exactly been tripping over each other to help
>> keep the scourge of Exchange down by creating compatible Free Software
>> products. All of the various word processors we have, I'd be willing to
>> bet, are desperate for help.
>>
>>
>>> I may install LibreOffice when available, but until then, OOo.
>>>
>> Well I don't know about you, but I'll run what my distro provides.
>> Right now, that's Novell's fork of OOo. You run Ubuntu or a variant,
>> don't you? You're probably not using OOo already then. I'm guessing
>> you're not even going to be asked when the switch happens since the
>> initial package will surely be nearly identical to OOo.
>>
>> - Ron
>>
>
>
> Ron,
>
> I'm using Linux Mint, a variant of Ubuntu, with KDE for my desktop, and using the OOo that came with it. Will update it at some point. As for Exchange, I have a client who uses Zimbra, which basically provides everything Exchange does and isn't as complex or as much of a bear to maintain, but still provides a lot of functionality, even in the free version. We're upgrading to a one time/lifetime fee version to get the mobility functions. It's excellent and provides a web interface and a native desktop interface for Linux, Mac, and Windows. Further, it can only be installed, as a server, on Linux or Mac systems, not Windows.
>

Then I believe you're already on a fork of OOo rather than the one
Sun/Oracle produces. As for Zimbra, it's badgeware not Free Software
and not a community driven project, which kind of proves my point.

- Ron

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