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DATE 2010-12-29
FROM From: "Ron Guerin"
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 01:30:31AM -0500, Ron Guerin wrote:
>
>> phantom21-at-mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>>> According to my brother, who lives on LI and commutes to Manhattan to work, a lot of those in Nassau and Suffolk are doing the same.
>>>
>>>
>> They're not though, it just seems that way if you're one of them (I used
>> to be). From what I read, the only growth an otherwise declining LIRR
>> has seen in a long time is in reverse commuting, ie, bringing people
>> west to east during the morning rush hour.
>>
>>
>
>
> Good - so I can shut down the LIE and the LIRR then. Better
>
> The last I looked, the MTA report was clear that over 80% of the wealth
> and income of Nausua and SUlfolk county is generated in the 5 boroughs.
>
> And not just that, but the last I looked over 40% of all the small
> businesses in the city were OWNED by people living on the Island.
>
> And I dare you to sit on the top of 120 Wall Street and WATCH with your
> eyes as a the daily commute happens.
>
> My last 4 bosses lives on the Island, come to think about it. The last
> person I worked for who didn't live in LI was when I worked for an
> Orthodox Jew in 1992, AND THEN THERE WAS fREDDIE WHO LIVED ON sATEN
> iSLAND
>
>

They're apparently driving to the city then. Unless you think the MTA
is (also) lying about the long-term decline in LIRR ridership, which, I
have to add again, is a tiny percentage of all the people on Long Island
who have a job. Most people out here don't even know anyone who works
in the city anymore. I hate to break the news to you guys, but Long
Islanders don't need NYC for jobs. That's not the same as saying they
don't need NYC (because they do, they just don't realize it), but direct
employment in NYC of Long Islanders is _not_ considered significant
anymore, and hasn't been for a really long time now. My entire working
career has been on the declining side of that old way. You guys need to
get your heads out of the Mad Men era. We're getting old, things have
_already_ changed.

- Ron

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