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DATE 2012-04-29
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
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On 04/29/2012 10:51 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> One more thing while cable modems are fine for serving web sites the cable
> providers mailservers usualy refuse to send mail to one of their own ip
> addresses. In other words if we put it on a road runner cable modem that no
> one will be anbe to send to it from a roadrunner email address because road
> runners smtp servers will bounce it
> On Apr 29, 2012 10:45 PM, "Paul Robert Marino" wrote:
>

I have 5 static IPS on cable for about $75 a month and no problem
getting your mail.


>> Well cable modem ips are fairly static they only change if the cable modem
>> is rebooted, and there are ways you can get the firwall to update the dns
>> server securly when that happens. The problem is uptime. Home class cable
>> modems have brief service interuptions (for a few seconds) all the time
>> because their local loops are over booked and usually don't the most stable
>> equipment controling them. Ist fine for a temproary solution but isn't
>> great in the long term
>> On Apr 29, 2012 8:49 PM, "Ruben Safir" wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/29/2012 08:08 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well I was thinking along the lines of a rackspace cloud box originally.
>>>> The problem is we host more than just our site so bandwidht would be an
>>>> issue because they bill based on the MB per month.
>>>> Oh and on the telex I agree they are one of the best colo providers and
>>>> they are cheaper than most. But cheeper than most is not nessisarily
>>>> cheap
>>>> when you are paying for it personaly.
>>>> It might be a viable option to put the main server in wv and set up a dr
>>>> server in a rackspace cloud. That way if we do have a power issue and
>>>> have
>>>> to switchover we would be fine
>>>> I was also saying it might be a good idea for us to put our email and
>>>> lists
>>>> on a google mail server which we can host in their cloud for free because
>>>> of our not for profit status. We would be limited to 50 email accounts
>>>> but
>>>> that would be fine.
>>>> On Apr 29, 2012 7:53 PM, "Ruben Safir" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> God - I need to get this done. Maybe my best route is to transfer
>>> everything to a fitPC and pay someone to run a static IP through cable in
>>> their house.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/29/2012 05:29 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
>>>>> Telex is good but it will still cost you.
>>>>>> They just provide space and power you still have to purchase internet
>>>>>> serveice independantly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul - you were just telling me a year ago that you would colocate the
>>>>> server because it was cheaper. Where was that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Host monster is ok but its shared hosting.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you like I can ask if we can set it up in my fathers barn (new
>>>>>> insulated
>>>>>> barn not never used for animals) in wv. We would have to ship it down
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> but he's told me I could put servers there before.
>>>>>> He's got a buisness class fiber connection so the bandwidth is decent
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> down side is he's usually in mane these days so if we loose remote
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> it may be a week or two before we can get it back up.
>>>>>> Also the ac isn't all that great in the summer when he's not staying
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> So he has had issues with ups units over heating. On the bright side
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can't beat the free colo price.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2012 4:37 PM, "Elfen Magix" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only one place I would recommend. Telx.
>>>>>>> http://telx.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are on 60 Hudson Street, downdown, few blocks from the World
>>>>>>> Trade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All sorts of connections available, rack, cabinets and cages
>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________________****__
>>>>>>> From: einker
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard good things about Rackspace in the past. Not sure what
>>>>>>> their pricing is or what they offer though
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/29/12, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:51:51AM -0400, einker wrote:
>>>>>>>> You can look at Host Monster or Blue Host ... They've been getting
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> consistent reviews. I've used hostrocket once but no real
>>>>>>>>> spectacular service. In fact when you call in with a ticket to
>>>>>>>>> open, it
>>>>>>>>> takes plenty of time to get it resolved.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about rack space?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Ruben Safir
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need to move the server out of the house and I'm considering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> co-location.
>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ruben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Evan M. Inker
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Evan M. Inker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

  1. 2012-04-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Impossible work
  2. 2012-04-18 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Impossible work
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  4. 2012-04-19 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The best top down mandate I've ever heard any
  5. 2012-04-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The best top down mandate I've ever heard any
  6. 2012-04-19 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The best top down mandate I've ever heard any
  7. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  8. 2012-04-29 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  9. 2012-04-29 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  10. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  11. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  12. 2012-04-29 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  13. 2012-04-29 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  14. 2012-04-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  15. 2012-04-29 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  16. 2012-04-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  17. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  18. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  19. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  20. 2012-04-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  21. 2012-04-29 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  22. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  23. 2012-04-29 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  24. 2012-04-29 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  25. 2012-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  26. 2012-04-30 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
  27. 2012-04-30 Nick Pytel <npytel-at-rattech.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move

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