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DATE 2012-04-30
FROM Nick Pytel
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
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I have a business class modem / service from comcast at home, serving =
multiple websites and providing me bandwidth.
It works great.

On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:

> Well cable modem ips are fairly static they only change if the cable =
modem is rebooted, and there are ways you can get the firwall to update =
the dns server securly when that happens. The problem is uptime. Home =
class cable modems have brief service interuptions (for a few seconds) =
all the time because their local loops are over booked and usually don't =
the most stable equipment controling them. Ist fine for a temproary =
solution but isn't great in the long term
>=20
> On Apr 29, 2012 8:49 PM, "Ruben Safir" wrote:
> On 04/29/2012 08:08 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> Well I was thinking along the lines of a rackspace cloud box =
originally.
> The problem is we host more than just our site so bandwidht would be =
an
> issue because they bill based on the MB per month.
> Oh and on the telex I agree they are one of the best colo providers =
and
> they are cheaper than most. But cheeper than most is not nessisarily =
cheap
> when you are paying for it personaly.
> It might be a viable option to put the main server in wv and set up a =
dr
> server in a rackspace cloud. That way if we do have a power issue and =
have
> to switchover we would be fine
> I was also saying it might be a good idea for us to put our email and =
lists
> on a google mail server which we can host in their cloud for free =
because
> of our not for profit status. We would be limited to 50 email accounts =
but
> that would be fine.
> On Apr 29, 2012 7:53 PM, "Ruben Safir" wrote:
>=20
>=20
> God - I need to get this done. Maybe my best route is to transfer =
everything to a fitPC and pay someone to run a static IP through cable =
in their house.
>=20
>=20
> On 04/29/2012 05:29 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
>=20
> Telex is good but it will still cost you.
> They just provide space and power you still have to purchase internet
> serveice independantly.
>=20
> Paul - you were just telling me a year ago that you would colocate the
> server because it was cheaper. Where was that?
>=20
>=20
> Host monster is ok but its shared hosting.
> If you like I can ask if we can set it up in my fathers barn (new
> insulated
> barn not never used for animals) in wv. We would have to ship it down
> there
> but he's told me I could put servers there before.
> He's got a buisness class fiber connection so the bandwidth is decent =
the
> down side is he's usually in mane these days so if we loose remote =
access
> it may be a week or two before we can get it back up.
> Also the ac isn't all that great in the summer when he's not staying
> there.
> So he has had issues with ups units over heating. On the bright side =
you
> can't beat the free colo price.
>=20
> On Apr 29, 2012 4:37 PM, "Elfen Magix" wrote:
>=20
> Only one place I would recommend. Telx.
> http://telx.com/
>=20
> They are on 60 Hudson Street, downdown, few blocks from the World =
Trade.
>=20
> All sorts of connections available, rack, cabinets and cages =
available.
>=20
> ______________________________**__
> From: einker
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move
>=20
> I've heard good things about Rackspace in the past. Not sure what
> their pricing is or what they offer though
>=20
> On 4/29/12, Ruben Safir wrote:
>=20
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:51:51AM -0400, einker wrote:
>=20
> You can look at Host Monster or Blue Host ... They've been getting =
good
> consistent reviews. I've used hostrocket once but no real
> spectacular service. In fact when you call in with a ticket to open, =
it
> takes plenty of time to get it resolved.
>=20
> How about rack space?
>=20
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> I need to move the server out of the house and I'm considering
> co-location.
>=20
> Any suggestions?
>=20
> ruben
>=20
>=20
> --
> Regards,
>=20
> Evan M. Inker
>=20
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Evan M. Inker
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20


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I have a business class modem / service from comcast at home, serving multiple websites and providing me bandwidth.
It works great.

On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:

Well cable modem ips are fairly static they only change if the cable modem is rebooted, and there are ways you can get the firwall to update the dns server securly when that happens. The problem is uptime. Home class cable modems have brief service interuptions (for a few seconds) all the time because their local loops are over booked and usually don't the most stable equipment controling them. Ist fine for a temproary solution but isn't great in the long term



On Apr 29, 2012 8:49 PM, "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:

On 04/29/2012 08:08 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:


Well I was thinking along the lines of a rackspace cloud box originally.

The problem is we host more than just our site so bandwidht would be an

issue because they bill based on the MB per month.

Oh and on the telex I agree they are one of the best colo providers and

they are cheaper than most. But cheeper than most is not nessisarily cheap

when you are paying for it personaly.

It might be a viable option to put the main server in wv and set up a dr

server in a rackspace cloud. That way if we do have a power issue and have

to switchover we would be fine

I was also saying it might be a good idea for us to put our email and lists

on a google mail server which we can host in their cloud for free because

of our not for profit status. We would be limited to 50 email accounts but

that would be fine.

On Apr 29, 2012 7:53 PM, "Ruben Safir"<mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>  wrote:






God - I need to get this done.  Maybe my best route is to transfer everything to a fitPC and pay someone to run a static IP through cable in their house.






On 04/29/2012 05:29 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:




Telex is good but it will still cost you.

They just provide space and power you still have to purchase internet

serveice independantly.




Paul - you were just telling me a year ago that you would colocate the

server because it was cheaper.  Where was that?





 Host monster is ok but its shared hosting.


If you like I can ask if we can set it up in my fathers barn (new

insulated

barn not never used for animals) in wv. We would have to ship it down

there

but he's told me I could put servers there before.

He's got a buisness class fiber connection so the bandwidth is decent the

down side is he's usually in mane these days so if we loose remote access

it may be a week or two before we can get it back up.

Also the ac isn't all that great in the summer when he's not staying

there.

So he has had issues with ups units over heating. On the bright side you

can't beat the free colo price.



On Apr 29, 2012 4:37 PM, "Elfen Magix"<elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com>   wrote:




Only one place I would recommend. Telx.

http://telx.com/



They are on 60 Hudson Street, downdown, few blocks from the World Trade.




All sorts of connections available, rack, cabinets and cages available.




______________________________**__

From: einker<eminker-at-gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Server move



I've heard good things about Rackspace in the past. Not sure what

their pricing is or what they offer though



On 4/29/12, Ruben Safir<mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>   wrote:




On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:51:51AM -0400, einker wrote:




You can look at Host Monster or Blue Host ... They've been getting good

consistent reviews. I've used hostrocket once but no real

spectacular service. In fact when you call in with a ticket to open, it

takes plenty of time to get it resolved.



 How about rack space?




 On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Ruben Safir<mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>

wrote:


I need to move the server out of the house and I'm considering



co-location.



Any suggestions?



ruben






--

Regards,



Evan M. Inker




--


Sent from my mobile device



Regards,



Evan M. Inker













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