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DATE 2013-03-23
FROM David Sugar
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Sat Mar 23 11:51:40 2013
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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:51:28 -0400
From: David Sugar
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
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Debian also offers direct install cd' for xfce4, kde, and lxde, among others.
In fact, at the moment gnome 3 (debian installer) is the only debian install
"cd" that doesn't work, because it still doesn't fit on a single cd...

I came to like xfce, and cinnamon also looks promising, as it does salvage
much from the wreckage of gnome 3. If one likes kde, wheezy froze with a
particularly good version of kde4 for once...

I find neither gnome 3 nor canonical's unity at all usable for real work. I
had not tried mate explicitly (as I moved to xcfe4), but since it is a true
clone of gnome 2, and I did find gnome 2 already to be very usable, I assume
it is as well.

Ron Guerin wrote:

> On 03/21/2013 11:20 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>
> >>And then they gave the world gnome 3...and proved your point ;)
> >
> >
> >Yeah well, Thank god for wmaker...
>
> MATE for now, I've got work to do, and Debian only offers Gnome 3.
> Maybe Cinnamon later. Gnome is such a flustercluck, but it's
> representative of how things are going in Free Software these days.
> I'm starting to think the end of the FLOSS desktop is near. Not
> because nobody wants to use it, but because those with the skills to
> maintain them have increasingly little interest in doing so. As for
> the new stuff, I don't know who they're writing for, but it's not
> users.
>
> - Ron

  1. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  2. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Korean cyberwar
  3. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  4. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  5. 2013-03-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnutelephony.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  6. 2013-03-20 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnutelephony.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  7. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  8. 2013-03-20 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  9. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  10. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  11. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  12. 2013-03-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  13. 2013-03-20 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  14. 2013-03-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  15. 2013-03-20 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  16. 2013-03-20 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  17. 2013-03-20 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  18. 2013-03-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  19. 2013-03-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] back up
  20. 2013-03-21 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnutelephony.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  21. 2013-03-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  22. 2013-03-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  23. 2013-03-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  24. 2013-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  25. 2013-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] UEFI
  26. 2013-03-22 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Coin Forum - up and running on YaBB
  27. 2013-03-22 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  28. 2013-03-22 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Coin Forum - up and running on YaBB
  29. 2013-03-22 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  30. 2013-03-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  31. 2013-03-23 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnutelephony.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] yabb
  32. 2013-03-24 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] UEFI
  33. 2013-03-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Paul and Grand Central terminal
  34. 2013-03-25 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] UEFI
  35. 2013-03-25 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] UEFI
  36. 2013-03-25 mayer ilovitz <mayeri-at-mindspring.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] UEFI
  37. 2013-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [SECURE1-at-cablevision.com: case # 157902]
  38. 2013-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [SECURE1-at-cablevision.com: case # 157902]
  39. 2013-03-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [SECURE1-at-cablevision.com: case # 157902]
  40. 2013-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [SECURE1-at-cablevision.com: case # 157902]
  41. 2013-03-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [SECURE1-at-cablevision.com: case # 157902]
  42. 2013-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] bitcoins
  43. 2013-03-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [SECURE1-at-cablevision.com: case # 157902]
  44. 2013-03-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] bitcoins
  45. 2013-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [info-at-rxinsider411.com: ICS Prescription Formulary Coverage Change]
  46. 2013-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stan Lee is not quite dead yet
  47. 2013-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The NY Times and Egyptian Gold easy to find now
  48. 2013-03-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The NY Times and Egyptian Gold easy to find
  49. 2013-03-29 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnutelephony.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The NY Times and Egyptian Gold easy to find now
  50. 2013-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: BIND options]
  51. 2013-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: More observations about the DNS-based DDoS]
  52. 2013-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: BIND options]
  53. 2013-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The NY Times and Egyptian Gold easy to find
  54. 2013-03-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The NY Times and Egyptian Gold easy to find

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