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MESSAGE
DATE 2013-05-03
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 08:22:56AM -0400, Redpill wrote:
> Don't forget pt.2 of stop & frisks: entrapment
>
> They make targets empty their pockets and if they have a packet of weed they
> then get arrested for "public exposure of marijuana"; conveniently ignoring
> the fact that it was not in public view until the officers made it that way
> (you see, small personal stashes of weed were decimalized in NYC in the...
> wait for it... 1970s!) Public exposure is the statute that is enforceable,
> NOT possession.
>

There is a whole cascade of problems once your patting down 600,000
people a year. On the face of it, I'm fine with harrasing 16 year old
kids and others for carrying pot. They don't need to frisk the equal of
the City of Milwaukee to do that. They know where there drug dealers
are and how to harras smalltime pot users.

Once your patting everyone down though, the power of the state become
STIFFLING. The governments ability to harrass you and strip you of
your humanity is far worse great than your ability to cope and live a
your life freely.

I'm sure I can have a vast bulk of people arrested for a ton of minute
infractions and choke the courts up all day, from sales tax invasion,
parking tickets, jay walking, smoking in the boys room, public nudity,
you name it.

Remmber, this is the Mayor who when it was shown that the Department of
Health was flat out HARRASSING resurants in the outer boroughs,
complained that the tickets for violations didn't cost enough because in
his twisted little mind the NYC Government (Not to mentional all the
other jurisidctions) are ALL FUCKING GOOD and the ULTIMATE determiners
of all that is Good and Bad in this universe... so help them God.....
Ahmen.

Bloomberg wants jurisdiction that God doesn't apply for himself in
instant punishment - instant oversite .... instantly... all the time,
for the good of the people!

Government Abuse, error, overreach? Never from our 3 term Mayor's
government.





> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com [mailto:owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com] On
> Behalf Of Ruben Safir
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 1:48 AM
> To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
>
> On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:50:00PM -0400, Redpill wrote:
> > Almost, '69 - GenX
> >
> > Stripers... I've been asking when they are running, definitely game
> > for a trip. Have a friend from work/France on board as well but we
> > have to time it right, weekends are a mess on those boats.
>
>
> I suggest in the next 4 days if you want to catch them while they are hot.
>
> http://www.fishreports.net/forums/f1158/sheepshead-bay-strippers-5367/
>
> >
> > Unless you really did mean Midnight Strippers ;)
> >
> > The level of fraud is stupefying... people would ask: will reality
> > become
> > 1984 or Brave New World?
> > We have a nice blend of both.
> >
>
> I can't stand it anymore, starting with this Mayor. Stop and frisks
> escalated from a few thousand a year to over half a million people a year.
> IS HE OUT OF HIS MIND. How can you defend stopping and frisking half a
> fucking million people.
>
> Mind you, I'm a Republican in favor of the program to get guns off the
> streets in definite hotspots. I was working in the Bronx a few months back
> for 3 days and they shot 7 kids, 2 dead, in those 3 nights on THAT CORNER.
>
> But what the hell does that have to do with stopping 685724 people in 2011.
>
> This is all on Bloomberg. He is GUILTY
> This is all on Bloomberg. He is GUILTY
> This is all on Bloomberg. He is GUILTY
> This is all on Bloomberg. He is GUILTY
> This is all on Bloomberg. He is GUILTY
>
> in 2002 only 1,892 people were stopped, which is about what I would expect
> for a normal policeing effort.
>
> Another term that drives me crazy: Racial Profiling:
>
> Really?!?
> Really?!?
> Really?!?
> Really?!?
>
> The kids shooting each other in the Bronx were young and Black. They WERE.
>
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
> They were Young and Black
>
>
> Maybe they should stop and frisk some white female joggers instead.
>
>
> shit...
>

  1. 2013-05-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Definitions of running (was RE: RE: Complaining)
  2. 2013-05-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] web tracking
  3. 2013-05-01 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  4. 2013-05-01 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  5. 2013-05-01 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  6. 2013-05-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  7. 2013-05-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  8. 2013-05-02 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  9. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  10. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  11. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] midnight stipers
  12. 2013-05-03 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  13. 2013-05-03 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  14. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  15. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  16. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  17. 2013-05-03 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  18. 2013-05-03 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  19. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  20. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  21. 2013-05-03 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  22. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  23. 2013-05-03 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  24. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  25. 2013-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  26. 2013-05-03 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Graphics and Photographs
  27. 2013-05-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ready - aim --- fire
  28. 2013-05-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stengths
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  30. 2013-05-05 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stengths
  31. 2013-05-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stengths
  32. 2013-05-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stengths
  33. 2013-05-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  34. 2013-05-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [Israel.pm] Meeting Announcement
  35. 2013-05-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] blackberry email
  36. 2013-05-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  37. 2013-05-09 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  38. 2013-05-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] linux devices
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  40. 2013-05-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
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  42. 2013-05-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Die Vorz?ge einer Teilnahme an einem SEO Kurs
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  48. 2013-05-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
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  51. 2013-05-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tech Jobs overseas
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  53. 2013-05-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  54. 2013-05-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  55. 2013-05-18 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  56. 2013-05-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ending the extended adulesence
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  59. 2013-05-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  60. 2013-05-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  61. 2013-05-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  62. 2013-05-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
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  65. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  66. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  67. 2013-05-27 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  68. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gorilla Marketing and B&H
  69. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  70. 2013-05-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  71. 2013-05-29 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  72. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  73. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  74. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  75. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  76. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  77. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: NTEN Connect: NPTech in the Cloud - Plus
  78. 2013-05-29 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  79. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] summer jobs
  80. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] summer jobs
  81. 2013-05-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] continued retailed spying
  82. 2013-05-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  83. 2013-05-30 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  84. 2013-05-30 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
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