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DATE 2013-05-29
FROM Paul Robert Marino
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
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Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
From: Paul Robert Marino
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Recently a vendor who makes Linux appliances who was trying to sell them to
my company told me something shocking and whats even more shocking is its
true.
First some background for the last couple of years Ive been working on a
pure Perl API for CIM (Common Information Model ) an old but very useful
standard written by the DMTF that in many ways makes SNMP look like a
ridiculous relic. CIM is the parent protocol for a lot of other
standardized protocols for managing and monitoring systems, virtual
machines, storage infrastructures, etc. Some of the most common
implementations of it are SBLIM on GNU Linux, SMI-S on storage devices, the
VMware vSphere APIs, Dell OpenManage, HP System Insight Manager, WMI on
Windows, and many more.

Now to the point. Well it seams Microsoft decided to drop a new bomb I've
never seen from them before. Microsoft wrote a new WBEM (Web Based
Enterprise Management) server for Windows Server 2012 which is the server
side component of the CIM standard to serve up WMI. the shocking part is
they made it so it compiles under Linux and Unix and released the code
under the Apache 2 license.

No this is not a joke its real, Microsoft is releasing open source software!
http://blogs.technet.com/b/windowsserver/archive/2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx

Ive been speculating for a few years now that they might start doing this
based on the fact that they let the Samba core developers see the windows
source code and all of their patents after the samba developers signing
NDA's (Non Disclosure Agreement) and they did a similar thing with
Microsoft Exchange and the core developers of Open Change (Open Change is
an open source clone of Microsoft Exchange which is still not complete yet
but its getting there). Still this is shocking and is going to
significantly change the software and OS landscape, but I'm honestly just
not sure how yet. Is It going to be a good thing , a bad thing ? I don't
know! Now to be clear its open source not free speech software so they are
still protecting their sales, but still its unprecedented for Microsoft,
the company whos co-founder (You know the one) came up with the concept of
software licenses in the first place to prevent users from sharing software
http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/gatesletter.html.


The only thing I can think of that could explain this a large squadren of
pigs flew into Hell and bomed it with liquid nitrogen till it froze.

--001a11c2af3ae52a8204dddcf1b5
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Recently a vendor who makes Linux=
appliances who was trying to sell them to my company told me something sho=
cking and whats even more shocking is its true.
First some background fo=
r the last couple of years Ive been working on a pure Perl API for CIM (Com=
mon Information Model ) an old but very useful standard written by the DMTF=
that in many ways makes SNMP look like a ridiculous relic. CIM is the pare=
nt protocol for a lot of other standardized protocols for managing and moni=
toring systems, virtual machines, storage infrastructures, etc. Some of the=
most common implementations of it are SBLIM on GNU Linux, SMI-S on storage=
devices, the VMware vSphere APIs, Dell OpenManage, HP System Insight Manag=
er, WMI on Windows, and many more.


Now to the point. Well it seams Microsoft decided to drop a=
new bomb I've never seen from them before. Microsoft wrote a new WBEM =
(Web Based Enterprise Management) server for Windows Server 2012 which is t=
he server side component of the CIM standard to serve up WMI. the shocking =
part is they made it so it compiles under Linux and Unix and released the c=
ode under the Apache 2 license.


No this is not a joke its real, Microsoft is releasing open sourc=
e software!
2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx">http://blogs.technet.com/b/=
windowsserver/archive/2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx
>

Ive been speculating for a few years now that they might start do=
ing this based on the fact that they let the Samba core developers see the =
windows source code and all of their patents after the samba developers sig=
ning NDA's (Non Disclosure Agreement) and they did a similar thing with=
Microsoft Exchange and the core developers of Open Change (Open Change is =
an open source clone of=A0 Microsoft Exchange which is still not complete y=
et but its getting there). Still this is shocking and is going to significa=
ntly change the software and OS landscape, but I'm honestly just not su=
re how yet. Is It going to be a good thing , a bad thing ? I don't know=
! Now to be clear its open source not free speech software so they are stil=
l protecting their sales, but still its unprecedented for Microsoft, the co=
mpany whos co-founder (You know the one) came up with the concept of softwa=
re licenses in the first place to prevent users from sharing software ef=3D"http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/gatesl=
etter.html">http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/=
gatesletter.html
.



The only thing I can think of that could explain this a large=
squadren of pigs flew into Hell and bomed it with liquid nitrogen till it =
froze.


--001a11c2af3ae52a8204dddcf1b5--

--001a11c2af3ae52a8204dddcf1b5
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Recently a vendor who makes Linux appliances who was trying to sell them to
my company told me something shocking and whats even more shocking is its
true.
First some background for the last couple of years Ive been working on a
pure Perl API for CIM (Common Information Model ) an old but very useful
standard written by the DMTF that in many ways makes SNMP look like a
ridiculous relic. CIM is the parent protocol for a lot of other
standardized protocols for managing and monitoring systems, virtual
machines, storage infrastructures, etc. Some of the most common
implementations of it are SBLIM on GNU Linux, SMI-S on storage devices, the
VMware vSphere APIs, Dell OpenManage, HP System Insight Manager, WMI on
Windows, and many more.

Now to the point. Well it seams Microsoft decided to drop a new bomb I've
never seen from them before. Microsoft wrote a new WBEM (Web Based
Enterprise Management) server for Windows Server 2012 which is the server
side component of the CIM standard to serve up WMI. the shocking part is
they made it so it compiles under Linux and Unix and released the code
under the Apache 2 license.

No this is not a joke its real, Microsoft is releasing open source software!
http://blogs.technet.com/b/windowsserver/archive/2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx

Ive been speculating for a few years now that they might start doing this
based on the fact that they let the Samba core developers see the windows
source code and all of their patents after the samba developers signing
NDA's (Non Disclosure Agreement) and they did a similar thing with
Microsoft Exchange and the core developers of Open Change (Open Change is
an open source clone of Microsoft Exchange which is still not complete yet
but its getting there). Still this is shocking and is going to
significantly change the software and OS landscape, but I'm honestly just
not sure how yet. Is It going to be a good thing , a bad thing ? I don't
know! Now to be clear its open source not free speech software so they are
still protecting their sales, but still its unprecedented for Microsoft,
the company whos co-founder (You know the one) came up with the concept of
software licenses in the first place to prevent users from sharing software
http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/gatesletter.html.


The only thing I can think of that could explain this a large squadren of
pigs flew into Hell and bomed it with liquid nitrogen till it froze.

--001a11c2af3ae52a8204dddcf1b5
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Recently a vendor who makes Linux=
appliances who was trying to sell them to my company told me something sho=
cking and whats even more shocking is its true.
First some background fo=
r the last couple of years Ive been working on a pure Perl API for CIM (Com=
mon Information Model ) an old but very useful standard written by the DMTF=
that in many ways makes SNMP look like a ridiculous relic. CIM is the pare=
nt protocol for a lot of other standardized protocols for managing and moni=
toring systems, virtual machines, storage infrastructures, etc. Some of the=
most common implementations of it are SBLIM on GNU Linux, SMI-S on storage=
devices, the VMware vSphere APIs, Dell OpenManage, HP System Insight Manag=
er, WMI on Windows, and many more.


Now to the point. Well it seams Microsoft decided to drop a=
new bomb I've never seen from them before. Microsoft wrote a new WBEM =
(Web Based Enterprise Management) server for Windows Server 2012 which is t=
he server side component of the CIM standard to serve up WMI. the shocking =
part is they made it so it compiles under Linux and Unix and released the c=
ode under the Apache 2 license.


No this is not a joke its real, Microsoft is releasing open sourc=
e software!
2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx">http://blogs.technet.com/b/=
windowsserver/archive/2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx
>

Ive been speculating for a few years now that they might start do=
ing this based on the fact that they let the Samba core developers see the =
windows source code and all of their patents after the samba developers sig=
ning NDA's (Non Disclosure Agreement) and they did a similar thing with=
Microsoft Exchange and the core developers of Open Change (Open Change is =
an open source clone of=A0 Microsoft Exchange which is still not complete y=
et but its getting there). Still this is shocking and is going to significa=
ntly change the software and OS landscape, but I'm honestly just not su=
re how yet. Is It going to be a good thing , a bad thing ? I don't know=
! Now to be clear its open source not free speech software so they are stil=
l protecting their sales, but still its unprecedented for Microsoft, the co=
mpany whos co-founder (You know the one) came up with the concept of softwa=
re licenses in the first place to prevent users from sharing software ef=3D"http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/gatesl=
etter.html">http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/=
gatesletter.html
.



The only thing I can think of that could explain this a large=
squadren of pigs flew into Hell and bomed it with liquid nitrogen till it =
froze.


--001a11c2af3ae52a8204dddcf1b5--

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  48. 2013-05-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  49. 2013-05-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: $25 for 5-9pm Half Day Afternoon Fishing Trip
  50. 2013-05-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: nixCraft Linux / UNIX Blog Newsletter
  51. 2013-05-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tech Jobs overseas
  52. 2013-05-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Drugs are good
  53. 2013-05-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  54. 2013-05-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  55. 2013-05-18 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  56. 2013-05-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ending the extended adulesence
  57. 2013-05-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rocket Brigrade - At the ready Sir!
  58. 2013-05-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [edisoncareerfair-at-ncfairs.com: Edison Job Fair - Get Company List]
  59. 2013-05-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  60. 2013-05-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  61. 2013-05-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  62. 2013-05-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  63. 2013-05-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] where coding and science collide
  64. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [edisoncareerfair-at-ncfairs.com: Edison Job Fair - Get Company List]
  65. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  66. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  67. 2013-05-27 From: "Redpill" <red.pill-at-verizon.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  68. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gorilla Marketing and B&H
  69. 2013-05-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  70. 2013-05-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fishing Report
  71. 2013-05-29 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  72. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  73. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  74. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  75. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  76. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  77. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: NTEN Connect: NPTech in the Cloud - Plus
  78. 2013-05-29 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  79. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] summer jobs
  80. 2013-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] summer jobs
  81. 2013-05-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] continued retailed spying
  82. 2013-05-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oh come on, a little fraud isn't so bad...
  83. 2013-05-30 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  84. 2013-05-30 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
  85. 2013-05-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cellphone technology is ....

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